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Title: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: RoadIslander on July 19, 2011, 01:40:37 AM

Came across this on ebay and thought it might draw some attention here.  Its a pretty penny, but..  sure would be sweet in a jeep


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Isuzu-4JA1-2-5L-non-turbo-diesel-engine-YJ-TJ-CJ-FJ-S10-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aacf9d548QQitemZ320729634120QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Title: Re: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: stan98tj on July 19, 2011, 08:19:16 AM
How legal would it be to get one of these? I noticed it's from Canada. Wonder if it would be a pain to get it imported and DOT legal in non-california states.
Title: Re: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: Jeffy on July 19, 2011, 10:07:44 AM
How legal would it be to get one of these? I noticed it's from Canada. Wonder if it would be a pain to get it imported and DOT legal in non-california states.
Technically it wouldn't be.  Really it would depend on your install though.  I know some DMV's will sign off on Diesels with little affair while others will send you to a referee station.  It's all on the digressions of the person inspecting it.
Title: Re: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: jramey on July 19, 2011, 03:45:34 PM
Now that would be sweet
Title: Re: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: Jeffy on July 19, 2011, 05:14:32 PM
Now that would be sweet
What the guy doesn't tell you is that the engine has something like 76hp and 174lbs-ft  So I don't know why this guy think it would be a great swap in a Jeep.  The VW diesel is smaller and makes a lot more power stock and with a reflash, makes a hell of a lot more.
Title: Re: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: Torch_Ind on July 19, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
how do you mate it to the ax-5? 15?  or do you need adaptors?
Title: Re: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: sharpxmen on July 19, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
What the guy doesn't tell you is that the engine has something like 76hp and 174lbs-ft  So I don't know why this guy think it would be a great swap in a Jeep.  The VW diesel is smaller and makes a lot more power stock and with a reflash, makes a hell of a lot more.

it has mechanical injection, that's an advantage imo for simplicity, you only need 2 wires to get it working, the fuel valve and the starter solenoid. The vw has a lot better injection system but it is computer controlled so lot more complicated to get it going/working in a Jeep. it has plenty of torque but like you say less power by quite a bit (and that's b/c of the low top rpm mostly), so hwy speed might suffer but offroad would probably be great.

I remember reading about an isuzu swap at some point, it requires an adapter plate for AX15 or similar and some clutch disk to work with the existing flywheel/pressure plate. also from the video it seems that the starter is located on the driver side of the engine, that would/might need to be also relocated or something to be modified on the bellhousing to provide clearance if needed (could be as simple as cutting and welding or bolting on a piece of aluminum for protection if there are no structural issues on the bellhousing in that spot). 
Title: Re: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: Jeffy on July 19, 2011, 06:09:48 PM
it has mechanical injection, that's an advantage imo for simplicity, you only need 2 wires to get it working, the fuel valve and the starter solenoid. The vw has a lot better injection system but it is computer controlled so lot more complicated to get it going/working in a Jeep. it has plenty of torque but like you say less power by quite a bit (and that's b/c of the low top rpm mostly), so hwy speed might suffer but offroad would probably be great.

I remember reading about an isuzu swap at some point, it requires an adapter plate for AX15 or similar and some clutch disk to work with the existing flywheel/pressure plate. also from the video it seems that the starter is located on the driver side of the engine, that would/might need to be also relocated or something to be modified on the bellhousing to provide clearance if needed (could be as simple as cutting and welding or bolting on a piece of aluminum for protection if there are no structural issues on the bellhousing in that spot). 
The most common Isuzu swap is the 4BD-1(2)T 3.9L turbo diesel which is comparable with the Cummin 4BT.  121HP (134HP) 250 ft-lbs.

BTW, the VW 1.9L was also offered with mechanical injection in the 90's.
Title: Re: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: jramey on July 20, 2011, 03:47:32 PM
Would the vw1.9 be a pretty simple swap if you had an adapter plate
Title: Re: "new" Isuzu 2.5l diesel on ebay
Post by: Jeffy on July 25, 2011, 09:37:20 PM
Would the vw1.9 be a pretty simple swap if you had an adapter plate
There are adapters.  There have been adapters for a while actually.  Toyota's have been doing the swap for more then a decade.  You can buy a kit from a shop in Canada as well.  They also have a reflash available for the newer engines.  it's been debated in the Diesel Thread.