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Title: control arm upgrades
Post by: fobanger00 on May 31, 2012, 01:54:39 PM
is it worth getting the front and rear upper and lower adjustable control arms? i dont hav any buddys who have these besides on there cherokees and it looks good and bumped it up a little under and inch. anyone have these or know more about them?
Title: Re: control arm upgrades
Post by: aw12345 on May 31, 2012, 02:07:36 PM
Have had all Currie adjustable control arms under my Jeep for years, flex well and very durable, just a bit pricey
Title: Re: control arm upgrades
Post by: Bounty Hunter on May 31, 2012, 09:44:51 PM
Adjustable lowers are a bit of a waste in my opinion, as long as your fixed length lowers are the proper length to correct your wheelbase for your lift height.  Adjustable uppers are a great investment, to set the pinion angle in the rear and to adjust pinion angle and caster in the front.

If I understood your post, they won't do anything to change your lift height.
Title: Re: control arm upgrades
Post by: stan98tj on June 01, 2012, 06:46:44 AM
I went with IronMan Fab 4x4. Upper and Lower on the front have Currie Johnny Joints, the rears do not, they are all adujustable. IronMan makes a hell of an arm. Really beefy, great customer service, well built and it's a small shop in NC so it makes you feel good when you order :)

THe Currie joints are the main theme. The stock arms are thin and have bushings. THese bushings wear out over time. As it is designed from the factory, the stock arms are not made to handle the strains induced from an articulating axle. ASide from the fact that they are thin and lightweight, the ends (where they mount to the axle and frame) do not allow for any movement or transfer of stress. This means that all the strain created when moving the axle is transfered to the mounts and likely the axle as well, depending on how articulated or flexed out the axle is. The JJs eliminate the problem by swiveling which helps the axle better articulate and doesnt transfer stress to the mounts or axle itself. In my opinion, new arms are useless if they don't have some type of swivel joint on both ends of the arm. There was an excellent write up/debate on JeepForum on this very topic. A proper arm is beefy/strong and is equipped with a swivel type joint at both ends-otherwise you're not gaining much other than it being a bit thicker. Currie, Clayton, IronMan Fab 4x4 all make top notch arms. JKS has good reviews, but I can't remember if they mount JJs on both ends or not. Rough Country offers their X Joint (i think thats what they call it) which is their version of a swivel joint. However, they are only mounted on one end and therefor don't completely solve the issue, so what's the point?

As for the arm being adjustable: I found it helped in my axle swap with setting the pinion angle correctly and if i am not mistaken, they would come into play if i were to change my suspension height dramatically. With the IronMan i could actually set up a medium length arm if i dialed them out.
Title: Re: control arm upgrades
Post by: VA_YJ on June 01, 2012, 12:38:51 PM
Good advice from Stan.  I have the Clayton Long Arms on my TJ.  Johnny Joints are the bomb.