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Title: Engine overhaul
Post by: jfrabat on June 15, 2012, 10:07:24 AM
So, I am seriously thinking about doing a major overhaul to get some power back.  So what exactly will I need?

At this time, I am considering the following:
1. New head (I found some at about $150 online)
2. Keep roller rockers (I dont plan to get new ones)
3. Change the water pump to the Flowkooler one (more flow)
4. New pistons and rings (I am thinking .030 over)
5. New oil pump (for $100, I rather be sure it's up to par; any suggestions on which one?)
6. New starter (the current one is on its final leg)
7. New sensors (TPS, MAP, CPS, Camshaft Position Sensor, IAC)
8. I am considering if I should also change the thermostat housing to the higher flow ones...  What do yo uguys think?
9. I will go back to a PD ignition system (coil, wires, cap and rotor)
10. I have new valve springs and retainers already, so those will go in as well...
11. New fuel injectors
12. New vacuum lines (silicone; already got them)

Apart from all this, what else do you recommend?  I will try to increase compression as well to 10.5 or so (keep in mind regular gas here is 91 octanes!).  I have a good radiator in place (Griffin), so that's staying, as well as the hoses (BRX silicon hoses).  I imagine I need to get a overhaul kit (with the seals and gaskets), but anything else that I am missing?  Any other parts that you recommend I change? 
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: jfrabat on June 15, 2012, 10:10:08 AM
And, by the way, if you have any brands, models or vendors you recommend for anything I need, please post them here...
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: grumpygy on June 15, 2012, 10:40:11 AM
Not sure of Brands but my local Machinist wants me to bring in the block to him when rebuild time comes up.  He wants to see how much power he can get.  He also has a place that reginds cams.
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: jfrabat on June 15, 2012, 11:40:45 AM
Not sure of Brands but my local Machinist wants me to bring in the block to him when rebuild time comes up.  He wants to see how much power he can get.  He also has a place that reginds cams.

I swapped my cam out for a Mopar Performance one about 2 or 3 years ago (not that many miles ago), so I'll stick to that one.  Is it necesary to change the tappets again?  I dont think so, right?
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: Wheezer on June 15, 2012, 12:54:34 PM
505Performance 2.9L stroker kit! I'm leaning that way in a big way. I have 193K on the clock so I am looking into this very thing. I will also probably have an inertia ring installed at rebuild time. Jus t my thoughts.

Wheezer
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: sharpxmen on June 15, 2012, 02:04:04 PM
505Performance 2.9L stroker kit! I'm leaning that way in a big way. I have 193K on the clock so I am looking into this very thing. I will also probably have an inertia ring installed at rebuild time. Jus t my thoughts.

Wheezer

it's not on their website, where did you find it?
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: grumpygy on June 15, 2012, 02:31:51 PM
Its there.

http://www.shop.505performance.com/category.sc?categoryId=40

  With a new cam and all.  it may just be the way to go.
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: grumpygy on June 15, 2012, 04:58:43 PM
The more I look at the site the more questions I have.

 So sent them an e-mail.

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Would like more info on your 2.5/2.9 Stroker Torque Monster 5052.5.  What are Performance Brackets.  Do you have any more info on these kits.  Would like to know what they come with Any Pictures of these kits.  Do you have any reviews of these kits.


  Like the cam what else is required with this.  What does the cam come with.


Thanks.
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: sharpxmen on June 15, 2012, 08:17:53 PM
The more I look at the site the more questions I have.

 So sent them an e-mail.


there's not much info there, i looked at their site (not the shopping site) and i can't find it. Also, how the hell is stage1 the same price as stage3 which includes the roller rockers for example (those on their own are pb worth about $350 so i'm a little lost), and there's no mention of the pushrods which you might need. They also say custom piston 8.75 to 10.75 (what the hell does that mean anyway?).

no info but i'm def interested to hear/see more about it so let me know what they say.
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: grumpygy on June 15, 2012, 10:11:31 PM
8.75 to 10.75 is the compression ratio available.  Did not see the roller rockers.  That was why I asked for a parts breakdown.  And maybe recommendations on what to use.  Me I would like the stage 1 just for the fact you get low end power.

Does the cam need new springs and keepers.   And what the hell are Performance Brackets.
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: sharpxmen on June 15, 2012, 10:24:41 PM
8.75 to 10.75 is the compression ratio available.  Did not see the roller rockers.  That was why I asked for a parts breakdown.  And maybe recommendations on what to use.  Me I would like the stage 1 just for the fact you get low end power.

Does the cam need new springs and keepers.   And what the hell are Performance Brackets.

i think the performance brackets are for the main bearing caps (again, i'm assuming)

about the CR - duh! had a "braindead" moment

the roller rockers are in the list for stage 3 (if you click on the title will open another page) but the price for all kits (torque monster, stage 1/2/3) are the same although the parts listed are different and stage 3 has the most parts, confusing.

i checked their main site and clicked on their pdf catalog but this stroker kit is not in there http://www.shop.505performance.com/media/505catalog1.pdf
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: grumpygy on June 15, 2012, 10:36:23 PM
You talking face book site.  Cause there I find nothing on the stroker Kits.. But did find their new Turbo kit for the 2.5.
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: Wheezer on June 15, 2012, 10:40:21 PM
I wish that I was closer to rebuilding, I would like to see if we could swing a "Groupon" for this. I would make mine the "Torque Monster" though.

Wheezer
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: Jeffy on June 15, 2012, 10:47:51 PM
You talking face book site.  Cause there I find nothing on the stroker Kits.. But did find their new Turbo kit for the 2.5.
http://www.shop.505performance.com/category.sc;jsessionid=EAB88C6C6DFAEBB993BEF6DEE04336FD.qscstrfrnt04?categoryId=40
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: sharpxmen on June 16, 2012, 12:02:37 AM
i'm talking their main website not the web store

http://www.505performance.com
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: grumpygy on June 16, 2012, 10:00:50 AM
Sent another e-mail this time thru their contact page.  1st time was to their e-mail address.  Also told them there was a few of us here and told them where here was.
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: grumpygy on June 16, 2012, 10:58:21 AM
Not sure I'm going to deal with them.  Their reply had less info than the ad.


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Performance stroker kit comes complete
All pistons forged custom cam all bearings oil pump injectors timming set custom crank H rod 4340.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

This was the question.

Quote
Would like more info on your 2.5/2.9 Stroker Torque Monster 5052.5.  What are Performance Brackets.  Do you have any more info on these kits.  Would like to know what they come with Any Pictures of these kits.  Do you have any reviews of these kits.
 
  Like the cam what else is required with this.  What does the cam come with.
 
Thanks.
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: grumpygy on June 20, 2012, 08:02:41 AM
Well no more info came from them.  So did some more searching and seems that is a problem they have. Even complaints with the BBB.
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: jfrabat on June 21, 2012, 03:45:43 PM
Well, then stroker kit is a no go...

I am still debating weather to get a new head or not (what do you guys think?), but the things I am considering at this time include:

Flowkooler High Flow Water Pump (http://www.4wheelparts.com/Heating-Cooling/High-Flow-Water-Pump.aspx?t_c=84&t_s=518&t_pt=3780&t_pl=102849&t_pn=brs1748&gp=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=product&emlprox=out)
PSC Motorsports Power Steering Pump (http://www.pscmotorsports.com/91-96-jeep-xj-yj-high-performance-replacement-pump-10-jic-return-6-jic-male-pressure-fitting.html)
Probably a new oil pump (just in case)

As for other items I may need, what do you guys recommend (what and where to get it)?
I still need an overhaul kit (with all the gaskets and uch), pistons, rings, valves, etc.  I plan to use my cam (I put a new, more aggressive one in about 4 years ago, and it has seen only about 15K miles), as well as my roller rockers.  I already got the valve springs and retainers (was going to change them a while back, but never did).  Do you guys recommend a new head?  If so, where is the best place
Title: Re: Engine overhaul
Post by: grumpygy on June 21, 2012, 04:53:01 PM
Just had my head redone.  Local Machinest did a great job and all it cost me was I think $80.  Reground the Valves and seat new seals and surfaced the head and both Exh and intake surfaces.