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Title: Another doubler option
Post by: FourbangerYJ on July 17, 2012, 10:10:52 AM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1075295

I don't hang out on  :pirate: much, but I saw this and thought I would pass it along.
Pretty good price. But you would have 2.7-2.7 unless you already have a 4:1 for the 231.
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: Jeffy on July 17, 2012, 11:55:49 AM
Would be interesting to do a 241OR with the doubler as an adapter.
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: sharpxmen on July 17, 2012, 01:16:42 PM
that's an awesome price basically for a DIY klune. it is great if you already have a 4:1 t-case to get a 4 speed setup. Can't make it for any cheaper than $600 or even $700 (after the promo ends). Only issue is the length added and the fact that it doesn't mention if you can use it in front of a 231 or 241 (although i can't see why not other than the position for the shifter) - i read the whole thread and didn't see anyone asking that question. Like Jeffy said if it can be coupled with a junkyard 241OR and the internals from the 231 behind the AX5 would make a great adapter and give you 4 speed, no front/rear shifters but for sure beats any price out there. (i think i saw somewhere some kit for running rear only low on the 241OR as well but can't remember for sure)
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: neale_rs on July 17, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
That is a great price.  Someone should get it and do a review.
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: sharpxmen on July 17, 2012, 04:43:45 PM
now that i think about it i believe that even with an SSYE the total length if coupled with another 231 or 241 would probably be too long, not sure the exact resulting length but with a lift the rear d/s could end up being too short and too steep of an angle. Would be interested to hear from someone that has more info on this, i'm running a D300 so i wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: VA_YJ on July 18, 2012, 03:18:10 PM
Transfer lengths (in inches)  Short tail has no speedo

Atlas 2 Short Tail      11.8
Dana 300 (stock)      12
Atlas 2 Long Tail      13.8
Atlas 4 Short Tail      15
NP 241 OR (stock)      15.25
NP 231J SYE      16 to 17
Atlas 4 Long      17
NP 231J (stock)      20.5 to 21
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: sharpxmen on July 18, 2012, 04:08:37 PM
so will be somewhere 22 to 23'' long if combined with 241OR
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: neale_rs on July 18, 2012, 04:29:17 PM
Looks like it would be best to move the motor forward about 4 inches.
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: sharpxmen on July 22, 2012, 01:01:35 PM
Looks like it would be best to move the motor forward about 4 inches.

if there's enough room to move it 7'' would allow for stock driveshafts (rear out of a rubi).
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: Jeffy on July 22, 2012, 01:09:56 PM
if there's enough room to move it 7'' would allow for stock driveshafts (rear out of a rubi).
I've heard people move it up to 6".
Title: Re: Another doubler option
Post by: sharpxmen on July 22, 2012, 02:27:11 PM
i think he could make them a bit shorter if the rear 1/2 would be bolted prior to assembly of the front 1/2 (like blackbox-i so the bolts/nuts would be on the inside rather than with the milled openings for the nuts, might gain another 1/2'' to 3/4'' or so, probably you could use c/sunk bolt in that case or just socket head ones)