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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: Jeffy on August 10, 2012, 12:18:09 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/v/YOcOtYCDiD8
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You would think they would have gotten a Jeep without the D35? :hahaha:
Is that Bill Wu (team Lambo) from the show on Speed with Bill Goldberg? Bullrun was the name of the show.
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You would think they would have gotten a Jeep without the D35? :hahaha:
Is that Bill Wu (team Lambo) from the show on Speed with Bill Goldberg? Bullrun was the name of the show.
You mean this? :lol: I don't know who Bill Wu is. I know Goldberg is a big car guy.
http://www.youtube.com/v/ihmo5xFZUYk&NR=1
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if they actually know how to drive they should be able to go along ways. but if they drive like they do on top-gear the d35 will break every episode and will get stuck alot... definitely looking forward to this show
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so did they manage to fix it somehow?
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so did they manage to fix it somehow?
I don't know. They're probably still up there dead and the series ended. :lol:
The Discovery Channel won't start airing these till the 19th, I think.
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Looks like it will be a fun show to watch.
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My bet is they used the high lift to keep the tire-wheel-axle from walking out. (strapped to the frame)
Gonna season pass it. It might be just one episode. :lol:
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My bet is they used the high lift to keep the tire-wheel-axle from walking out. (strapped to the frame)
Gonna season pass it. It might be just one episode. :lol:
You don't think you're going to weld the piece back together? :wall:
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You don't think you're going to weld the piece back together? :wall:
Maybe some duct tape and bailing wire, IF they don't weld it. :wine:
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Here's the trailer for the show.
http://www.youtube.com/v/3Vtah-14Yaw
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I think this show would be more interesting if they used my Jeep. They wouldn't break my axle, but just about everything else would fail and they'd probably end up killing one another out of pure desperation/frustration...
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Did anyone watch it?
Here's what I felt: Why is Wu on the show? The survival guide does all the work so he may as well drive. Lovely surprise to find the Jeep is a 4 banger! Yellow shocks looked to be Old Man Emu. Lastly, I was watching it thinking Art's Jeep would have driven out of there by now.... :lol:
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I watched it with my 14 year old son. We both enjoyed it. I thought it was awesome that they used a 4 banger TJ. It would have even been cooler if it was a 4 banger YJ. Looked like the Jeep had some lift and larger tires/rims, a snorkel, and a winch.
I was impressed with all that the vehicle went through. It is a great testamony about what these rugged vehicles can do.
I think the show would be more fun with Tanner Faust driving and Bear Grylls being the survivalist dude.
The Wu guy complained way, way, too much. I would enjoy seeing the survival guy punch Wu in the face and tell him to man up.
The two guys didn't seem to have much chemistry together, but maybe they will get along better in future episodes. I think 5 episodes are planned, so I'll keep watching.
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Sounds like it's a good show. It seems it didn't air here in Mexico. But, it might appear later on in the year.
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Well, I watched it. They over dramatized just about everything. "The winch cable could do some real damage..." No it won't, it's synthetic rope. Bill was also a drama lama. I think the survivalist should have left him behind.
What was the point of cutting the seatbelt up though? He climbed up then tested it then climbed back down with it. Strange that they left the rear seatbelts in there. I don't think I saw a rear seat.
I wouldn't be surprised of the suspension was OME. The Jeep had UK plates. Man-A-Fre and OME are easier to get in the UK.
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Well, I watched it. They over dramatized just about everything. "The winch cable could do some real damage..." No it won't, it's synthetic rope. Bill was also a drama lama. I think the survivalist should have left him behind.
What was the point of cutting the seatbelt up though? He climbed up then tested it then climbed back down with it. Strange that they left the rear seatbelts in there. I don't think I saw a rear seat.
I wouldn't be surprised of the suspension was OME. The Jeep had UK plates. Man-A-Fre and OME are easier to get in the UK.
Agreed. Bill is kinda lame! When he was on Bullrun I thought he was a real douche! He sat in the Jeep and bossed the other guy around.
Why did they leave the ratchet straps when the built the log bridge?
I'll watch the other episodes. But like most shows they want drama even if there is little or none. :deadhorse:
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I'll keep watching mainly to see how the Wrangler does in different environments.
It will be interesting to see how the two guys interact as well.
Does anybody have any guess as to how big the lift is on that Wrangler?
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I'll keep watching mainly to see how the Wrangler does in different environments.
It will be interesting to see how the two guys interact as well.
Does anybody have any guess as to how big the lift is on that Wrangler?
2.5" most likely.
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Bill seems like a major tool and is very annoying. will watch the rest of the episodes but as usual its abit of a disappointment. Would have loved to have gone bombing through the forest with my yj, but the river may have caused some issues without a snorkel.
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Got to watch it on youtube. Not perfect but enjoyable overall, some good obstacles, some good tips. Will try to see the remaining episodes.
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Got to watch it on youtube. Not perfect but enjoyable overall, some good obstacles, some good tips. Will try to see the remaining episodes.
There were tips?
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Using the battery to start a fire, putting vaseline on the electronics, how to make a fish hook, using a surgical glove to waterproof the distributor, taking the doors off for the river fording. Some people already know these things but not everyone.
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did they get to the broken axle yet?
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did they get to the broken axle yet?
I think that's Ep 2. I did see in the trailer where it looked like they had the axle shaft in a forge...
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Season finale: they drive a stock '74 Pinto down side of an active volcano :wall: :lol:
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Season finale: they drive a stock '74 Pinto down side of an active volcano :wall: :lol:
Well, I think the running theme is that they're using the Jeep for everything.
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I liked the part of episode 2 when the Brit asks him "What did you do to my car?" and Bill replies with "Nothing, it was probably defective" hahahahaha nope, it was just a Dana 35 :)
I was laughing so hard when he followed that up with "we weren't doing anything extreme, we were just going downhill!"
Presented by 2012 Jeep Wrangler ahhahahhaha!
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Well, I think the running theme is that they're using the Jeep for everything.
From what I've seen, that looks to be the case. Saw on the YouTube episode that Jeep had some advertising running.
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I watched episode #2 last night and enjoyed making fun of Bill. I enjoyed seeing them deal with the broken axle. I still don't get why he didn't put it in 4 low when going down that steep hill instead of relying only on the brakes?
The most amusing part was seeing Bill try to exercise to get his hands and feet warm.
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Seems rigged... How do you brake a rear axle when going down hill on a wet snowy surface?
How do you go from jacking up the Jeep every few feet to slide the axle assy. back in to driving it from looked like a while and making left and right turns without it falling off?
I have broken D35 shafts. You know something has gone wrong with a fairly loud bang!
Bill is a tool! Watching his buddy dig the hole to sleep in while he stayed in the Jeep. Then when he started freezing he jumped in the hole to get warm. He is lucky he didn't get the boot.
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I just finished watching it. I get a laugh out of the intro of them. Gary, Survivalist, who's killed people with his bare hands. Bill, once clicked 'Like' on FB...
This is the exact reason I would have chosen to have open-diffs then a locker. You could tell they broke the shaft well before getting to the rocks. I'm not sure if it was rigged but somewhere Bill bumped the throttle where he shouldn't have. He was also incorrect with his description. It had nothing to do with a 75lbs tire and all to do with too much throttle at the wrong time. Fluke? He should maybe do a little research on Jeeps, maybe. If he did, I'm sure he would be yanking out the locker for the next episode.
As for the fix, I guess that's one way to do it. I think I'd prefer to have it roll then to drag it. Luckily the road was dirt though. They had an ax handle as well as the hi-lift handle. I'm sure they could have roped that tire in.
OH and how many seatbelts dones this Jeep have? They've cut the rear seat belts out in both episodes. (There was ROPE in the back!) I also noticed the rear seat is in there still... why? They must not be carrying much food or supplies. Speaking of rope, why did he cut the rope up. Looks like he used just as much rope making those loops then if he would have just knotted the whole thing and wrapped the tire in rope.
Oh and having to ride the brakes with the clutch in seems a bit dubious. Let the engine and gears do their thing and ride the brake if you have to. No reason to ride the brake and clutch.
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how did they hold the tire in?
and wtf, did they say he killed pple with his bare hands, are they on drugs or something?
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how did they hold the tire in?
and wtf, did they say he killed pple with his bare hands, are they on drugs or something?
They didn't. They used a log as a drag cart.
Oh, that's my interpretation. Gary is ex-SAS from what they said. I'm sure he knows what he's doing. Bill just seems to like to complain about everything He kinda reminds me of Russell from Pixar's UP!. he gives asians a bad name. Always wanting steak and not wanting to walk 2ft.
(http://www.brehmcenter.com/files/uploads/rs_images/up_russell_6001.jpg)
(http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP01567666/cast-of-one-car-too-far-3.jpg)
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I was told that the Tj doesn't have a locker so that makes it more perplexing. How did Bill manage to break the Dana 35 on an open diff on ice? Think he rode the brake while throttling? I can't imagine there being enough grip to stop both rear tires. Most of the brakes I've seen are usually from too much throttle with the tire in the air then it catches. The D35 is weak but I haven't seen one break on an open diff. It's usually with a locker.
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Bill is complete tool. Took 2 days to come up with the 'great idea" to pull the wheel off and tie a log under the axle... bill seems to not know how to use a clutch with all the jerking he did. I like how he set the barking break when trying to push the axel backin so they had to fight the brake pads. Anyone else notice they switched from alterans to km2s between episodes?
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The jeep was def open diff the whole time. No locker.
A while back a guy i met at a local Jeep meet invited me to check out Forbidden Jeeps on Facebook. While I'm not really a fan of their page they seem to have a vast number of members. One of them claims to have been a tech/prep guy on the show and helped equip the Jeep. Basically said they were given a list of parts to install: 31 MTs, OME 2" kit and winch. They gave advice where they though the Jeep could be improved and some of their advice was taken, some wasn't.
As far as busting the axle, he prob busted it before heading downhill. Although, could it have busted while he was on the brakes and the tire was maybe still turning and then snagged a rock which abruptly stopped the wheel?
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Finally got to see it on youtube. Bill sure complains a lot. Like Gary said "he needs to man up"! It is an entertaining program though. It was actually a good case study on what to expect if your D35 axle breaks.
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From One Car Too Far's FB.
The jeep is a 2002 4 cylinder 5 speed manual . The only modifications done are: 2" suspension lift, snorkel with breather tubes for the diffs, 33" tires, and winch
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Those tiny drum brakes are not strong enough to snap a axle, let alone going down hill.
Has anyone heard of a axle breaking with a open diff?
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Bill is complete tool. Took 2 days to come up with the 'great idea" to pull the wheel off and tie a log under the axle... bill seems to not know how to use a clutch with all the jerking he did. I like how he set the barking break when trying to push the axel backin so they had to fight the brake pads. Anyone else notice they switched from alterans to km2s between episodes?
I went back and watched the show. The tires in the beginning are MT/KM2's. Although AT's might have done better in the ice and snow.
Those tiny drum brakes are not strong enough to snap a axle, let alone going down hill.
Has anyone heard of a axle breaking with a open diff?
I'm sure it happens but I haven't come across one. Usually it's the spider or side gears that go from the tube flexing. I wonder if all the side stepping caused it to break.
As I was re-watching it, I noticed Gary made snow blindness goggles from the visor. They made no mention of it winch I thinks is unfortunate.
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I wonder if Bill was gunning it in the deap snow and got some major axle hop / shuttering which could have stressed out the shaft and the side step going down the hill took the last straw
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Well they just posted this on FB;
what 4x4 would you like on season 2? where in the world would you like episodes to be filmed and what are the top and unique trail fixes you would like to see?
This makes me think they staged it. :rant:
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Well they just posted this on FB;
This makes me think they staged it. :rant:
I don't think you can snap a axle shaft and not know about it. Gary hopped out to have a look and discovered the tire/wheel/axle combo hanging way out.
There had to be a loud pop when it let go.
I said it before...rigged.
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"Who knew you could burn poop?"
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i have heard of burning cow pies before.. what got me was using the stick as a plug wire. it actually working was amazing but i cant follow the thought process.
1. ow spark plug wire insulation has failed so its arcing to the ac bracket.
2. A. Bill thinks ow lets cut the wire put a stick in there then insulate it with a hose and tape.
2. B. why not just use your tape and hose to insulate the current wire and use the perfectly good conductive wire rather than a stick. :puzzled: :brick:
using antifreeze and whatever powder it was to start the fire was pretty cool.
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Discovery blocked the full episode videos that were on youtube. I wonder it the guy will upload this third episode...
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Discovery blocked the full episode videos that were on youtube. I wonder it the guy will upload this third episode...
If youtube finds too many illegal uploads, they close your account.
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i have heard of burning cow pies before.. what got me was using the stick as a plug wire. it actually working was amazing but i cant follow the thought process.
1. ow spark plug wire insulation has failed so its arcing to the ac bracket.
2. A. Bill thinks ow lets cut the wire put a stick in there then insulate it with a hose and tape.
2. B. why not just use your tape and hose to insulate the current wire and use the perfectly good conductive wire rather than a stick. :puzzled: :brick:
using antifreeze and whatever powder it was to start the fire was pretty cool.
That is what I was thinking on the spark plug wire. They could have done just as you said, but I guess that would not make good TV.
Same thing for the throttle cable breaking.
I am sure the enviro crazy people loved when Bill pissed in the river. :crap:
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Anyone else think it was odd they had a triple snatch block setup in the Jeep from the start? Sounds staged...
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Well, I'm watching the show right now. WTF was he cutting up the spark plug wire for? He had tape, so why not just tape it up? OK, I know the real answer was to show what could be done McGyver style.
I think the chains were on just in case the Jeep rolled back. I'm sure they're flying the jeep out a day or two before the arrive.
I do like the potassium and antifreeze trick though. Lowering the Jeep was cool but they could have backed it down with the winch as well. WTF was Bill freaking out? There were no legs on that lizard and he was spitting up before it even went into his mouth. I don't see why they keep driving in the water though. The sand bars look to be solid enough. The throttle cable fix was pretty good too.
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The latest was pretty good. What a amazing country!
When they first showed the eggs, my first thought was good way to fix a rad leak. Sure enough.
I liked the idea of using the ammo can and sand/gas mix for a fire box. Not sure how long it would burn but I had not seen that before.
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These comments make me want to see this third episode. The good thing is that it is supposed to start airing here in Mexico pretty soon, translated into Spanish.
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I wish Bill wasn't the poster boy for an American Tourist. Ep4 is the Atacama Desert in Chile. Awesome place. That's where the Dakar ends.
Ep4, they could have figured out west with his watch hands like he did in Ep1 or 2.
Bill's also an idiot getting stuck in that sand bowl when they didn't have to. Then he does the Homer Simpson and tries to use more throttle to get out. Asian guy who doesn't like tea either. Maybe if it was made from steak he'd like it?
The rear diff breather was setup! Bill pulls the 'breather hose' from behind the brake booster. It also looked like they set up the fuel line with a disconnect. There was some chrome fitting rather then the black plastic and the PITA connector.
Does the engine seem to sound like a small diesel to anyone else? 4th gear 'pegged' sure didn't look like it was more then 5400 rpm. I also like the heaving breaking down when they stop on the sand. :hahaha:
I could have done without the driving naked. They should have slept during the day and ran at night like most normal people would.
The smartest thing they did was pull the rear seat and use it as a camp side sofa. :fya:
I think I like this episode the best so far. Ok, some stuff was setup but they were completely out of left field like the axle break.
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Looked like food grade tube for a breather.
I have noticed in every episode that the motor sounds diesel like. But when they popped the hood it had spark plugs.
They had to had a water source with all the sweating they were doing while naked...man that sounds bad. :hump:
I am sure this is made for entertainment VS. true reality.
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I, too, get the feeling that a lot of the situations are contrived for "good TV". However, they do come up with some very creative fixes. I find myself filing some tricks away for future use. Which I'm sure is the whole point of the show.
Wheezer
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The latest was pretty good. What a amazing country!
When they first showed the eggs, my first thought was good way to fix a rad leak. Sure enough.
I liked the idea of using the ammo can and sand/gas mix for a fire box. Not sure how long it would burn but I had not seen that before.
I read that's how the japanese soldiers that were on Okinowa and some of the south sea islands cooked during WWII Gasoline in sand in a ammo or other can to contain it...
Dave
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I watched episodes 1-3 on discovery.com and it seems fairly interesting. Like everyone else, it's nice to see the scenery, the MacGyver like fixes, and the odd ball obstacles... but honestly.. if Bill was driving like he was supposed to... the show would be very dry to everyone other than us watching. Most average people haven't seen what jeeps can really do and I give the show credit for trying to push out some of the drama of uncertain trails through the tube. To be honest, I was hesitant to even watch the show, but there seems to be enough good mixed with bad for me to keep watching. +1 for having the 4x4 at least be a Jeep. :thumbsup:
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I could have done without the driving naked. They should have slept during the day and ran at night like most normal people would.
One of the basic rules of open desert driving is to ONLY drive during the day. Night driving easily disorientes AND is harder to tell where the packed sand patches are, you end up plowing into the loose stuff and getting stuck. As for the heating issue, why didnt they just remove the hood?
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The diesel sound we hear is probably from the Toyota and Land Rover support trucks off camera :wall: :lol:
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One of the basic rules of open desert driving is to ONLY drive during the day. Night driving easily disorientes AND is harder to tell where the packed sand patches are, you end up plowing into the loose stuff and getting stuck. As for the heating issue, why didnt they just remove the hood?
Loose sand is actually going to be less a problem at night. The heat from the day will dry out the sand. At night with the moisture, the sand tenda to stays firmer. Remember this is Chile not the Sahara. Mountains and the ocean aren't that far away. They run the Dakar through there and it's not limited to the day. THe conditions change drastically throughout the day. They usually leave in the early morning and by mid-afternoon the sand starts to turn into feshfesh.
The reason they didn't remove the hood was that they have limited tools. I doubt they have a ratchet and the torx bits.
Also, I think the reason for the diesel sound is that this isn't a US show. They have sold the show world wide. Most other countries would relate more with the diesel. On their FB site they are promoting the show a lot in other countries.
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What about the spark plugs if it's a diesel?
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What about the spark plugs if it's a diesel?
You mean glow plugs? The only time you need the wires to the glow plugs is when starting from a cold engine. Once warmed up the heat from the combustion stroke keeps them red hot.
IIRC, McGyver fixed one by stretching out the spring from a BIC pen...
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You mean glow plugs? The only time you need the wires to the glow plugs is when starting from a cold engine. Once warmed up the heat from the combustion stroke keeps them red hot.
IIRC, McGyver fixed one by stretching out the spring from a BIC pen...
I don't see how it could have been a diesel when they pulled a spark plug to light the fire once. Then there was the trail fix on the spark plug wire with a bush branch.
But I do agree it sounds like a diesel.
Did you see the top 10 show? Looks like they have a lot of fun. Kinda made Bill look like a bigger sissy. :hahaha:
Ruby was a good name for the Jeep.
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I don't see how it could have been a diesel when they pulled a spark plug to light the fire once. Then there was the trail fix on the spark plug wire with a bush branch.
But I do agree it sounds like a diesel.
Did you see the top 10 show? Looks like they have a lot of fun. Kinda made Bill look like a bigger sissy. :hahaha:
Ruby was a good name for the Jeep.
No it's not a diesel, they just edit the sound of a diesel into the show. That's what we're talking about.
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maybe they're setting the stage to do an engine rebuild on the trail (drained the oil out) :lol:
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the exhaust is prob what is throwing you off. It's aftermarket, looks like a gibson.
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No it's not a diesel, they just edit the sound of a diesel into the show. That's what we're talking about.
Gotcha
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I watched episodes 1-3 on discovery.com and it seems fairly interesting. Like everyone else, it's nice to see the scenery, the MacGyver like fixes, and the odd ball obstacles... but honestly.. if Bill was driving like he was supposed to... the show would be very dry to everyone other than us watching. Most average people haven't seen what jeeps can really do and I give the show credit for trying to push out some of the drama of uncertain trails through the tube. To be honest, I was hesitant to even watch the show, but there seems to be enough good mixed with bad for me to keep watching. +1 for having the 4x4 at least be a Jeep. :thumbsup:
These comments make me want to see this third episode. The good thing is that it is supposed to start airing here in Mexico pretty soon, translated into Spanish.
I saw e2 on youtube, but could not find e1 or the later ones... Neale, did they say when it will air? Mexico ussually airs at the same time as Costa Rica... Or maybe I will try using my hidden IP to watch it from discovery.com...
Felipe
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I think it started Tuesday of this week here in Mexico. I didn't catch it though.