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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: 4X4DAVE on June 05, 2006, 11:57:15 AM
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It time for new and bigger tires! :D
The problem is i still want to beable to park my jeep in my garage. The garage door height I think is 82", I could get an actual measurement tomorrow. Right now I think that I have about 10 or so inches for the top of my jeep to the top of the garage door. I have a soft top which adds a few inches, and stock suspension with 30" tires. I want a 3.5" lift and some 32 or 33. Does any have this setup that could measure the total height, or give me some advice on what to get? Thanks
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I have a soft top which adds a few inches, and stock suspension with 30" tires. I want a 3.5" lift and some 32 or 33.
This will give you about 4.5-5" of total lift as an estimate
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That's pretty simple to figure out.
Tires; you'll want an actual height. Most are under their labeled height. AT's are generally off by .5" while MT's are off only by .3". For every inch you go taller in tire size, actual lift will only go up by half.
30" -> 32" = .5" Lift
The thing about lifts is that most will be taller then what they say. This is to account for settling. So a 3.5" might be as tall as a 4.5" initially. But using the most inflated numbers you're still only going up 5.5".
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as this reminds me of when we got our inclosed trailer being scared that our jeeps wouldnt fit becasue of how tall they are. and it was ironic cuz the person was selling the trailer cuz he was using it for sports cars and he would botom out on the ramp up into it..
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That's pretty simple to figure out.
Tires; you'll want an actual height. Most are under their labeled height. AT's are generally off by .5" while MT's are off only by .3". For every inch you go taller in tire size, actual lift will only go up by half.
30" -> 32" = .5" Lift
uhhhhh...wouldn't that be 1" of lift (30-32 is 2 inches difference equalling 1" of actual lift)???
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Thanks for the info, now I need to dubble check the numbers and choose a lift and tires. Can't wait :D :)
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That's pretty simple to figure out.
Tires; you'll want an actual height. Most are under their labeled height. AT's are generally off by .5" while MT's are off only by .3". For every inch you go taller in tire size, actual lift will only go up by half.
30" -> 32" = .5" Lift
uhhhhh...wouldn't that be 1" of lift (30-32 is 2 inches difference equalling 1" of actual lift)???
Whoops! yes you're right it would be 1"
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That's pretty simple to figure out.
Tires; you'll want an actual height. Most are under their labeled height. AT's are generally off by .5" while MT's are off only by .3". For every inch you go taller in tire size, actual lift will only go up by half.
30" -> 32" = .5" Lift
uhhhhh...wouldn't that be 1" of lift (30-32 is 2 inches difference equalling 1" of actual lift)???
Whoops! yes you're right it would be 1"
Ha HAAAAA...
Score: Jeffy -- 5,346
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btw....I'm going with the 4WD Hardware 3" lift combined with a 1" body lift. I also bought a 1" engine lift...but I'm thinking I may not be able to install that until I get an SYE next year...maybe a belly up at the same time?
I'll run my 31's with the 4" of lift until I can go to 33's next year....don;t think my 4-banger and D30/35's would be happy with 35's...EVER!
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Most lifts will come with Tcase lowering kit. You might try that on there to get by with.
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Most lifts will come with Tcase lowering kit. You might try that on there to get by with.
Yeah..it's included...just thinking ahead as the engine lift only costs about $60.
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You could try to jsut use the Mm lift but you might run into the problem of your driveshaft being too short.
Which MM lift did you get?
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You could try to jsut use the Mm lift but you might run into the problem of your driveshaft being too short.
Which MM lift did you get?
JKS 1" MM lift...was the only one I could find (easily) that works with the 2.5L...every one listed on the most popular sites was for the 4.0L.
Actually ordered it from Quadratec...$50.
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The JKS's are alright but you'll get a lot more vibrations with them then with the OEM's.
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I have a BDS 3.5" lift with 1" longer shackles (1/2"of lift) and 33" mtr's on a 90 YJ and my garage door opens 80" with soft top up it still rolles in with about an 1" or so to spare.
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As far as motor mounts lifts... I'm running Daystar and as far as vibrations are concerned... they've worked themselves out..
The Daystar were made for M.O.R.E. back in the day. But M.O.R.E.'s rubber 'bulletproof' one's were the next better after I got mine.
So there were for a 4.0L, and the mechanic I had working for me installed them for me. He used like a million washers on one side of them to make them work. I'm not sure what the issue was compared to my 2.5L... And why a shorter bolt wasn't the answer... All I know it that they've been in there for a few years and I've never had a problem.
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As far as motor mounts lifts... I'm running Daystar and as far as vibrations are concerned... they've worked themselves out..
The Daystar were made for M.O.R.E. back in the day. But M.O.R.E.'s rubber 'bulletproof' one's were the next better after I got mine.
So there were for a 4.0L, and the mechanic I had working for me installed them for me. He used like a million washers on one side of them to make them work. I'm not sure what the issue was compared to my 2.5L... And why a shorter bolt wasn't the answer... All I know it that they've been in there for a few years and I've never had a problem.
Problem I had was really at idle but now that I'm getting used to the OEM, it was while moving also. The dash would vibrate just enough. If you have stock seats or stock type seats, these absorb much of the vibrations also. Run a suspension seat and you'll feel everything. You can see the problems with running a 4.0L mount set in a 2.5L if you check out the JKS/Currie install. I talk about the differences between OEM and poly in the JKS Budget spacers review.
I can really tell at lauch the engine rolls a lot more and it feels a bit slugish off the line. After running the OEM's I alsmost think the engine has died when I'm stopped. Long trips, (+500mile) were a bit of a bear. The vibrations would really beat you up. I do a lot of 300-500mile trips so it was a bit more important. Not to mention, for some reason the vibrations from the engine were being transmitted directly to the exhaust and breaking hangers off left and right. I've got the exhaust set up a bit differently but it should absorb the vibrations enough to stop it form happening. Weird side effect that may have been caused by the sum of the engine mods.
Oh and there's the roof rack. It would rattle violently at idle when empty. Drove me crazy. It was like having a monkey on the roof! :lol:
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Wait a sec... it's rattlin' the Jeep thing?
Like I said, and I agree, poly MML is too much if you didn't loctite every nut and bolt. The rubber one's from M.O.R.E. are the way to go...
I'll go search for the JKS and see what I can pull up.
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Wait a sec... it's rattlin' the Jeep thing?
The GF likes it smooth.... :wink:
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I searched the JKS and I do remember now (you'll get old too... and forget like me). I like that idea of spacing up the factory motor mounts (as long as they're in good condition).
I also searched M.O.R.E. and I can't see rubber lifted mounts, only poly... Hummm....
Score another one for the JKS.
Now about the smooth ride and the G/F... Funny thing, I made my Jeep a little difficult for my wife to drive. She can do it (and has more times than I'd like to remember), but it scares me when she does.
So if it was smooth, she'd take it more. Especially on beautiful sunny days :cry: That leaves me with the Suburban... yukk :lol:
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i have a bds 3.5 lift and 31s and with the soft top it measures 76 inches
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i'm running 30s on stock wheels and stock suspension right now. Thinking about installing a 2" spring spacer lift, getting new wheels and putting 31s or 32s on them.
Anyone know what the tire size limit would be for a 2" spacer lift without it looking bad or causing issues? Any experience with what would look better overall? Still in the research process I guess just looking for some input. Thanks.
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i'm running 30s on stock wheels and stock suspension right now. Thinking about installing a 2" spring spacer lift, getting new wheels and putting 31s or 32s on them.
Anyone know what the tire size limit would be for a 2" spacer lift without it looking bad or causing issues? Any experience with what would look better overall? Still in the research process I guess just looking for some input. Thanks.
31's will clear nicely. 32's migth clear but I'd honestly go with 31's unless you want to buy new wheels too.
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Thanks for the response. and I just planned on getting new wheels because of how narrow the tires have to be on the stock wheels.
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You will have no problem. My jeep has a 2" suspension lift with 32 under it and I have lot of clearance.