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Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 11, 2006, 03:51:03 PM
ok today i was scrounging around the back of my jeep looking at the lines comeing out of the gas tank becasue when the gas tank is full. it is hard to start (truns over for like 1 minute or more befor starting then when fires exost smell rich like it is fluded) and it leaks gas... and what i found is behind the pasender rear fender there are 2 hoses that should connect and make a loop back to somewere neer the tank (perhapes a return of some sorts).. but the 2 lines go into this 1 inch diameter ruber thing that has a spring in it and tapers back down to the size of the hose that goes back to the tank (im asuming).. so what im asking is what this thing is so that i can get a new one. it broke right at the end of it just above the hose clamp.

 ow ya and its about 3 inches long give or take.

its on a 1990 yj 4banger.. any help apreciated. and vacum or gas line diagrams are welcome.(for this and other issues)
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 12, 2006, 11:43:56 AM
i still dont know what this thing is.. it might be part of a vent thing.. i will be going out to investigate it again in afew minutes and hopefully that helps..
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: Jeffy on August 12, 2006, 02:05:14 PM
Sounds like you're going to need a FSM or even a Hayes or Chiltons.

Although it sounds weird that anything runs down the passenger side.  All your lines should run down the driver side.  This is because the exhaust runs down the passenger side.  The only thing I can think of is a vent return line from the Evap canister.
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 12, 2006, 04:28:02 PM
well i crawled under my jeep today and ya your right it is a vacume line coming from the vacume canister thing that comes into the top of the spring valve thing and its soposed to conect to a bigger hose that goes into a T and both the hoses off of that goes into the gas tank....

i need to find out what that thing is called or a part number so i can get a new one...

ow ya and i fund that my oil leak was from the oil pan cuz the bolts on it were all lose.. wierd  :nothing: .. dont know how that happend... hopefully that was the only place the oil was comeing from...

and hopefully someone comes along with the name of that weird vacume line spring valve thing... :bow:


ill try to get to the library sometime to see if they have 1 of those bookes i can look at to figue it out if all else fails.
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: Jeffy on August 12, 2006, 07:00:19 PM
I think your best bet is to upload pictures, I don't have a clue what you're talking about. :nothing:  :english:
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 12, 2006, 07:01:46 PM
thats what i was thinking.. will have to borrow my dads digital camera then.. this could be a day or 2 then...
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: j-freak153 on August 13, 2006, 09:03:49 PM
mines broken off too...when i took and flush mounted my tail-lights, it was half off, the rubber was rotten, and when i moved it, off it came...i havent had time to get it fixed yet but mine seems to be running fine without it being hooked up...
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 14, 2006, 07:04:37 PM
hmm interesting... i cuz my jeep runs ruff whith full tnak of gas and i thought this was the proablem... but if you dont have any poblems...... ill try to get those pics soon.
Title: Re: gas vacum thing
Post by: jeepers on August 15, 2006, 09:26:28 AM
Quote from: "chardrc"
ok today i was scrounging around the back of my jeep looking at the lines comeing out of the gas tank becasue when the gas tank is full. it is hard to start (truns over for like 1 minute or more befor starting then when fires exost smell rich like it is fluded) and it leaks gas... and what i found is behind the pasender rear fender there are 2 hoses that should connect and make a loop back to somewere neer the tank (perhapes a return of some sorts).. but the 2 lines go into this 1 inch diameter ruber thing that has a spring in it and tapers back down to the size of the hose that goes back to the tank (im asuming).. so what im asking is what this thing is so that i can get a new one. it broke right at the end of it just above the hose clamp.

 ow ya and its about 3 inches long give or take.

its on a 1990 yj 4banger.. any help apreciated. and vacum or gas line diagrams are welcome.(for this and other issues)


Gas can leak on to the exhaust pipe so fix as soon as you can, or there will be a fire

Its a dealer part. The "Schucks"  or "NAPA" wont have it.

You'll need part:  j536 0058    VALVE,vent
and part:    5300 4047   CONNECTOR

Its best to get both parts and do the job once. If you have the part, take it with you, if not just go to dealer parts and ask for these part numbers. Be sure to tell him, what year and model these parts are for.
Will try to upload photo later. The parts man should be able to give you a printout of the parts brake down he has.
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 15, 2006, 05:03:26 PM
sweet i knew someone had to know about this and have a parts #.. ill have to go down to park jeep then and get the part there.... hopefully they can give us a deal since weve bought a new jeep there the past 2 years.. it got us 2 free tickets to the auto show this year which was sweet... but they proably wount give any parts discounts but it shouldnt cost mugh anyways...
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: Liljeepz on August 15, 2006, 06:16:32 PM
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but it shouldnt cost mugh anyways...


 :roflol:
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: jeepers on August 15, 2006, 09:50:53 PM
Quote from: "Liljeepz"
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but it shouldnt cost mugh anyways...


 :roflol:



Don't remember what it will cost, but I didn't even have to put pen to paper, when I saw the fuel driping on the exhaust pipe, to know that the part was cheaper repair than a burt up jeep.    :)
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 16, 2006, 12:53:07 PM
true.. ive been lucky that its hasnt blown up yet.... reminds me of when we went to colorado and on a sign it said "warning fire danger extremely high".... adns like 10 miles up the road there was a land rover one fier and you could see the fire working its way back to the gas tank.. adn you could feel the heat in our truck... im like you should have goten a jeep instead of a landrover which is made by ford...

anyway ill go to parkjeep this weekend and get that part or atleast order it cuz they proably wont have one on hand...
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 20, 2006, 03:34:05 PM
thanks for the part #'s they were both good to the surprise of the person workling there.. and i got both on order and they will be here on tuesday...

adn they are going to cost me a total of $26..... not horible but not cheap ether... but hey i wont have to wory about starting on fire.
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: Jesse-James on August 20, 2006, 04:36:15 PM
That's shockingly cheap coming from a stealership.
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: jeepers on August 21, 2006, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: "chardrc"
thanks for the part #'s they were both good to the surprise of the person workling there.. and i got both on order and they will be here on tuesday...

adn they are going to cost me a total of $26..... not horible but not cheap ether... but hey i wont have to wory about starting on fire.




Thats great, glad the numbers were good for you.          
 just found my receipt for the ones I got and they were $26.24.
  :)
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 21, 2006, 08:15:33 PM
ya the only bad thing is that even thow they come in tomarrow i cant get them tell thursday becasue i have a bizy to days.. so sadly i cant drive my jeep still... :sad:
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: Liljeepz on August 22, 2006, 04:53:22 PM
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cost me a total of $26

 :whistle:

That's a lot cheaper than I thought it would be.
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 22, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
actualy it came in today.. to my surprise it was delieverd to my house :P .. an it was $24.25 cuz we have an acount there... but i have 12 questions

1 how do you undo those plastic fasiner thing that keeps that plastic cover in the way of me working on it... the things are used all over on my jeep to hold plastic things.. but i dont know how to undo them with out braking them and i dont want to brake them...

2nd the old vent thing had a metal strap fasiner thing clamping the plastic peace on to the ruber peace.. but the 2 peaces come seperate and they didnt give me a new strap thing.. do i need a new one..or to even use one cuz it is a tight fit...

ow ya and this is a totaly diferent question but has anyone had a rear taillight box have the metal plate inside of it that the light balbs go into to keep them on totaly rust out.... it happend to me. after someone toldme today that my taillight didnt work.. and when i opened it up its all ruist with the lights siting in there in a pile of rust. not ataced to anything.. funy thing is the other bix lookes like new inside with no rust and the metal plate is a nice yellow goldis finish color.. it thingk its like galvinized maybe...
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 22, 2006, 08:09:04 PM
ok i got it done.. i gess the midl part puls out.. if it wants to.. aka i broke 1 but i revived the one that holds the vent up so thats a +.... but im going to have to drop my oil pan and get a new gsket to stop my oil leak :cry:
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: jeepers on August 23, 2006, 08:30:41 AM
Quote from: "chardrc"


2nd the old vent thing had a metal strap fasiner thing clamping the plastic peace on to the ruber peace.. but the 2 peaces come seperate and they didnt give me a new strap thing.. do i need a new one..or to even use one cuz it is a tight fit...

...


I just used a small radiator type clamp.

On your tail lite problem, sounds like you need a new tail lite assembly.
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: Jesse-James on August 23, 2006, 04:35:30 PM
Doesn't Jeffy have a couple for sale? :whistle:
Title: gas vacum thing
Post by: chardrc on August 23, 2006, 08:35:12 PM
ya i used the old metal thing for the vent thing.. and i will need a new tail light housing.. the only one has a crack innit and the gasket is roten which led up the he major rust problem...