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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: Guardian7 on August 17, 2006, 10:21:14 PM
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What dont they do!
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g99/Guardian7pic/JeepFlex1.jpg)
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:eek:
Now that's twisty!!
My buddy Bryan has a 4 coil renegade.... Look, that this twists too!
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/09160040.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/09160041.jpg)
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And with leafs too!
Nice Renegade but loses points for bring coiled.
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Damn, that's a YJ too, Flex is the Holy Grail I seek!
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Damn, that's a YJ too, Flex is the Holy Grail I seek!
Eh, it's not that big of a deal. You don't need to be able to bend over backwards. The Jeepster looks huge but you have to take into account that it has tube fenders which makes the openings look huge to begin with.
I can't tell with the YJ, if it had a custom coil conversion or a coil-over.
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Tube fenders are now on my list of things to add, I also like how they are tied into the front bars. It looks like the front shocks are even mounted to the tube fenders, hard to tell how bottom of the shock mounts, it also looks like a shackle conversion on there too!
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Tube fenders are now on my list of things to add, I also like how they are tied into the front bars. It looks like the front shocks are mounted to the tube fenders!
I really like tube fenders but they aren't legal in many states. The other problem is most don't have inner fenders. I like inner fenders to hang my crag on.
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Do you know if they legal in California?
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That Renegade also has a different front axle, look at the Warn lockout. It probably has a Ford front and rear axles. Can't see much of a hub or another lockout in the rear wheel. So, that Renegade has gone through some driveline changes.
Flex is good, but if you don't have a properly 'geometric' (if there was such a word) vehicle, what good is flex? If that Commando had the articulation, but was on 29" tires that were on a 3' track width and it still had the 103" stock wheelbase, then what good is the flex. He'll be flopping it all over the place.
Flex is part of the design and layout of the vehicle. Some owners enhance the flex to be capable of driving on their trails. In some instances, it good to have, others not so good. It's a compromise on how much. Leafs can be designed to flex well, but then it's also in where on the frame they attach. The shock is the most limiting aspect of the suspension which limits flex. Most stock shocks only travel 4-5", if that. Aftermarket boosts an additional 1-3" for a 3-4" lift. But if you research properly, measure and locate a shock properly, then your suspension could be designed and laid out to work with the frame, tires, track width, weight capacity, etc of your vehicle. Most owners, I'm one, use the aftermarket to come up with those constraints and work out a suspension lift. It's not rocket science, but there are a lot of factors to consider, quite a bit vary in their numbers.
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Do you know if they legal in California?
Yes and no. You will need to make sure the rear tires are covered. Technically they could ticket you for the front but usually if the rear are covered it's ok. Many guys who get caught with no tire coverage have to run mudflaps.
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OK... Byrans' Renegade...
Warn 4 coil conversion (before it was purchased by Superlift). 1" Daystar spacer bodylift.
Currie 9" high pinion, Atlas II T/C, 2001 TJ Tranny to a crappy over built 4.0L with chip and intake and all that other perfomance upgrades.
4.56's at each end with ARB's... Front is a D30 with the Warn 'big bolt pattern' hub conversion. I joke with him today that my front end is beefier than his because his is still 27 spline and I'm 30 spline. We both did that custom chromoly over the top steering.
If we were in a parking lot and turned the wheel to the right (or was it left), then punch it! We used to get the tire to lift and stay lifted few a really long time... Staying in it, it would run and easy 10 feet plus...
Bryan wanted to take it to PIR (Pacific International Raceways) and race it against some rice rockets... He wanted to get all four tires smoking with an Advenger supercharger... He never got around to it because he kept breaking rear ends... The Currie wasn't strong enough for him.
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/05270022.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/05270025.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/05270021.jpg)
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As I look at these pictures, I noticed that this was before we did our custom high steer thingy...
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That's one way to get a view of the underbody, nice rig!
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You don't see too many Renegades with full fenders wheeling very often.
What's up with the 37" tires and a 33" spare?
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Sadly, 35's with a 33" spare... That was also before (my favorite) Wilderness swing away tire carrier.
He sold me those tires and bought 5 more of something... I can't remember if he went to 36 SSR's... I guess I'll have to call him sometime.
He wanted to sell me that Wilderness tire carrier for like $200-250.00, but I didn't have the money. It's probably still on it...
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nice jeeps... but i have to say i dont like the full body fender flar things on the renigade.. reminds me too much of the wide boddy kits in need for speed underground 2 and ricers....
also since im in minnesota i usualy go in woods and to tell the truth an old cj2 or 3a could go way farther than any newer jeep cuz the new ones are to wide for the trails we go throw and they are heavy for the big mud/ bog areas... i still like the smaler skinier lighter classic jeeps.. but the new ones are still beter than anything else out there today and there jeeps... but the wider and longer is beter for rock crawling i guess.
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With the type of wheeling, he built the YJ Ren in stages obviously. Does he prefer the taller tires with the coil suspension? Seems he's a lot on his sides in those pics, even with the smaller tires.
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Buddy of mine at a club run in Shiloh Ridge, TX.
(http://www.cypressoffroad.com/albums/album12/100_0105.jpg)
(http://www.cypressoffroad.com/albums/album12/100_0107.jpg)
(http://www.cypressoffroad.com/albums/album12/100_0110.jpg)
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Crunch, Wow that Ruby Flex is awesome, I hope nothing got broke!
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Nope, nothing broke. Gotta love Long Arm kits.
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Here's my little 4 banger trying to flex.
Its the Green one..
(http://81x.com/Authors/kamikaze124/crush_6.JPG)
(http://81x.com/Authors/kamikaze124/IMG_1121.JPG)
(http://81x.com/Authors/kamikaze124/IMG_1158.JPG)
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Crunch, Wow that Ruby Flex is awesome, I hope nothing got broke!
Like this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=728537892237442464)? :drink3: This looks to be lil' Sliuce on the Rubicon.
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(http://www.chiefshuddle.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/scared.gif) Ouch!
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Why did you show that to me...I may never wheel again....wait...I only go in the dirt and mud....nevermind. :roll:
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Like this? This looks to be lil' Sliuce on the Rubicon.
When I was doing this (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/752/img0372dv7.th.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0372dv7.jpg) (http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2135/img0373qi8.th.jpg) (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0373qi8.jpg) I thought that's what happened, It was the first time I did any big flex since I put the lift on and it started popping and cracking... I was totally freaked out! :roll:
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kamikaze124, sweet Jeep YJ man, what are specs on your suspension? I can see it's SOA but what steering mods, who makes the SOA kit, leafs, shocks etc..