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Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: justin_aka_spike on October 10, 2006, 04:25:44 PM
okay weirdest thing, i didnt think it was possible until it happened, i lost my fifth gear, i was driving down the road one day, and it just went out, now i cant go over 65 in 4th with over-reving my engine, does anyone know what happened to my fifth gear, or where it went? lol :x  :cry:
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: Jeffy on October 10, 2006, 04:30:46 PM
There's a clip that retains the gear.  When it breaks it doesn't allow the use for 5th gear.  It's a fairly common problem when lugging the engine in 5th.  You're option would be to rebuild your existing tranny, replace it with a salvage or swap it.
Title: ok
Post by: justin_aka_spike on October 10, 2006, 07:10:12 PM
thanks, i guess, i know whats wrong, now, is there a way to just get a new clip for it, and if so where can i pick one up, and how much would it cost? :twisted:
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: kamikaze124 on October 10, 2006, 08:18:05 PM
I have also seen the syncronizers go out on the trannie, and that will cause you to lose a gear.. Or at least it will not go into that gear .. Has happened to me and a few others who I wheel with. It will grind really bad when you try to put it into that gear...
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: HIWYH8R on October 10, 2006, 08:32:13 PM
That happened to my tranny 3 years ago and I'm still driving it everyday, I just don't use 5th gear. No metal fileings in the fluid and no strange noises or anything. Can't use 5th anyway with bigger tires and the 2.5L
Title: yeah
Post by: justin_aka_spike on October 11, 2006, 12:48:09 PM
well, its not like it grinds when i go to put it into fifth, it goes into the gear just fine, but its like im in neutral when i hit the gas, all the other gears work just fine, 2nd grinds a little, but seems to work
Title: Re: yeah
Post by: Jeffy on October 11, 2006, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: "justin_aka_spike"
well, its not like it grinds when i go to put it into fifth, it goes into the gear just fine, but its like im in neutral when i hit the gas, all the other gears work just fine, 2nd grinds a little, but seems to work


That's the clip then.
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: kamikaze124 on October 11, 2006, 06:25:48 PM
Then the clips have it folks.. Good call Jeffy. 8)
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: Jeffy on October 11, 2006, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: "kamikaze124"
Then the clips have it folks.. Good call Jeffy. 8)


I've never had the problem myself but from all of the people I've been hearing it comes from lugging the engine in 5th.  It doesn't like the beating it gets from being lugged, I guess.  I'm always reving the snot out of mine, LOL!
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: Bounty Hunter on October 11, 2006, 10:51:30 PM
The clip holding 5th gear on the shaft generally breaks from a hard shift from 4th to 5th and bad synchros.  I drove one for a long time after broken with no problems, but the broken clip will be in the bottom of the tranny, to heavy to really float around (but if it does) :roll:

You can replace the clip, easy to get to once the case halves are split.  It'll only do it again if the clip groove is damaged or the syncrhos are bad.

Anybody that doesn't know it, do not run the factory recommended GL5 rated gear oil in the AX5 or AX15, the high sulfer content will eat the soft brass syncrhos and your gear oil will come out like brass glitter.  If you've got hard shifting, put in Redline MT90 before it's too late.
Title: thanks guys
Post by: justin_aka_spike on October 12, 2006, 12:57:36 PM
thanks a bunch guys, it really does help knowing that, anyone looking to buy a jeep? 3000 asking price
Title: Re: thanks guys
Post by: Mozman68 on October 12, 2006, 01:17:48 PM
Quote from: "justin_aka_spike"
thanks a bunch guys, it really does help knowing that, anyone looking to buy a jeep? 3000 asking price


Does that include a working 5th gear?? :lol:
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: jwrape on October 12, 2006, 03:39:09 PM
Time for the AX15 Conversion.
Read up here
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181361&page=6&pp=25&highlight=ax-5+swap
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: YJmechanic on October 12, 2006, 03:40:11 PM
you're giving up on the jeep just for one gear?  that's to bad.
Title: haha
Post by: justin_aka_spike on October 12, 2006, 05:46:43 PM
heh,..funny, it was a joke, but im glad you have a sense of humor too
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: YJmechanic on October 12, 2006, 06:37:25 PM
the sad thing or good for somebody is i have seen it really happen many times before,  for that matter being a mechanic i have bought my customer's vehicles for incredible prices because people think that if the engine or tranny goes then you should just scrap the car, but then again if you pay all the labor maybe it isn't worth it.
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: Tall Boy on October 27, 2006, 10:39:14 PM
Quote from: "Bounty Hunter"
The clip holding 5th gear on the shaft generally breaks from a hard shift from 4th to 5th and bad synchros.  I drove one for a long time after broken with no problems, but the broken clip will be in the bottom of the tranny, to heavy to really float around (but if it does) :roll:

You can replace the clip, easy to get to once the case halves are split.  It'll only do it again if the clip groove is damaged or the syncrhos are bad.

Anybody that doesn't know it, do not run the factory recommended GL5 rated gear oil in the AX5 or AX15, the high sulfer content will eat the soft brass syncrhos and your gear oil will come out like brass glitter.  If you've got hard shifting, put in Redline MT90 before it's too late.


   So, we should drain our tranny's and replace the fluid with redline mt 90 ?
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: Jeffy on October 27, 2006, 10:43:15 PM
Quote from: "Tall Boy"

   So, we should drain our tranny's and replace the fluid with redline mt 90 ?


After doing some research on this, here's what I found.

http://www.4bangerjp.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=422
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: Tall Boy on October 27, 2006, 11:07:44 PM
I like it. I'm gonna have to get some soon. My reverse grinds abit, and I used to have trouble with shifting when I raced it everywhere, but I mellowed out now. But I am gonna get some of this, when I replace my 2 year old motor mounts. Every two years got to replace them.
Title: HELP WITH MY 93's 5th
Post by: jwrape on October 28, 2006, 05:29:34 AM
Oh definately RedLine is the best. I have a noisy bearing in my AX15 and it used to be VERY loud and I had the typical grindng in 3rd, but after Redline MT was installed 3rd shifts perfectly and the bearing noise is almost entirely gone OH and the BIG difference, no more COLD shifting issues. Don't have to SHOVE it into 1st and or 2nd in the winter. Goes in without any trouble.