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Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: SMC4WD on October 19, 2006, 04:56:10 PM
We recieved our JK today...  He's a bunch of pictures...

Sorry 56K guys (including myself)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010073.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010072.jpg)
The ugliest door handles I have seen...
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Inside...
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010076.jpg)
Hidden truck
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010077.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010078.jpg)
Cool little tweeter
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010080.jpg)
3 piece removable top
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010079.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010084.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010083.jpg)
Rear end
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010082.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010081.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010088.jpg)
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(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010087.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/SMC4WD/P1010086.jpg)
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: lanulos89 on October 19, 2006, 05:17:16 PM
honestly in my opinion after the early tjs jeeps just went downhill.  Only part i like is the V6
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on October 19, 2006, 05:38:41 PM
Hmm, are they going to get another? Rubicon perhaps?  Looks like a base model.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: SMC4WD on October 19, 2006, 05:51:54 PM
It is the X model...  Cruise control, power windows and door locks.  Hidden trunk compartment and drivers seat riser.  

It was supposed to have a D44 in the rear, but ended up with a D35.  I'm sure that we will outfit it with a Super 30 in the front, and I guess now will but stuck having to do the Super 35 in the rear.  (On the LJ we have, we did a Super 30 front and a 33 spline 44 in the rear).

This is the two door model, the 2nd one the Jeep dealer has seen.  Tomorrow (06.20.06) it's being shipped to Australia.  We were lucky to see it, and won't see it again for probably a year or two.

Note that all the future advertisements will be of this exact vehicle.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Liljeepz on October 19, 2006, 06:27:23 PM
Some times I see it I like it, other times I see it I hate it! I dislike this one... Tires are WAY to small for it... never noticed the bumpers before, Those will get destroyed with any miled off road use. Ill stick with my TJ for a long wile I suppose.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: dexetr30 on October 19, 2006, 08:08:51 PM
Quote from: "SMC4WD"
power windows and door locks.  


I don't like this feature. What if you're in some deep water and the window and door mechanisms get wet? You run the risk of things going haywire. I don't mind the way it looks so much. I just think it seems to much like a luxury vehicle with all the options that are offered.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on October 19, 2006, 08:16:59 PM
Quote from: "dexetr30"
Quote from: "SMC4WD"
power windows and door locks.  


I don't like this feature. What if you're in some deep water and the window and door mechanisms get wet? You run the risk of things going haywire. I don't mind the way it looks so much. I just think it seems to much like a luxury vehicle with all the options that are offered.


Well, the doors will work at least till the batteries dies.  Electronics like that don't short out at the slightest sign of water.  Otherwise it would be a safety concern.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: dexetr30 on October 20, 2006, 06:34:53 AM
Quote from: "Jeffy"
Well, the doors will work at least till the batteries dies.  Electronics like that don't short out at the slightest sign of water.  Otherwise it would be a safety concern.


I had a car at one time that had power everything. If I had the windows down even the slightest bit when it rained the lockes would go crazy. Even a small amount of rainwater dripping in would cause havoc.  I guess I just like my Jeeps plain and simple. No a/c, power windows or power locks. I do like my tunes though so a good cd player is a must. :D
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on October 20, 2006, 01:02:16 PM
Quote from: "dexetr30"

I had a car at one time that had power everything. If I had the windows down even the slightest bit when it rained the lockes would go crazy. Even a small amount of rainwater dripping in would cause havoc.  I guess I just like my Jeeps plain and simple. No a/c, power windows or power locks. I do like my tunes though so a good cd player is a must. :D


Ok, is this a current day car or some 80's land yaht?  I believe you can get manual windows on the JK.

One consideration with manual windows though.  If you put a cage in you might end up with non-op cranks.  I have to open my doors to be able to open my windows since my 6pt cage gets in the way.  I want to change them to electrics sooner or later.
Title: hah
Post by: Mozman68 on October 20, 2006, 01:21:38 PM
Still don't think it looks any goofier than a stock TJ.....it just needs bigger tires (like all Jeeps).

(http://static.flickr.com/38/87821596_d947c5eb91_o.jpg)


I've seen 3 JK Unlimiteds in the last 2 days....one at lunch today had the nerve to give me a Jeep wave  :lol:   Some old bag...I waved back of course since I'm such a nice guy.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: SMC4WD on October 20, 2006, 01:31:24 PM
The power window controls are in the front center stereo area.  Not much of a chance of getting doused.  The power door locks are on the door handle, but you can easily move the lever with your fingers.

It's been said here before...  Alot of people hated the TJ when it first came out.  It was laughed at by soo many.  Now it's the greatest.  I think, the same will happen with the JK...   Eventually, it'll grow on ya.

Now about that older woman waving...  That may have not been a 'Jeep Wave'.  I think she was flirting with you.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on October 20, 2006, 01:50:41 PM
Quote from: "SMC4WD"
The power window controls are in the front center stereo area.  Not much of a chance of getting doused.  The power door locks are on the door handle, but you can easily move the lever with your fingers.

It's been said here before...  Alot of people hated the TJ when it first came out.  It was laughed at by soo many.  Now it's the greatest.  I think, the same will happen with the JK...   Eventually, it'll grow on ya.

Now about that older woman waving...  That may have not been a 'Jeep Wave'.  I think she was flirting with you.


The window switches on dash it a bit weird.  Although it seems to be popular in Europe.  I do like how they have hidden all the wiring to the doors through the strap.

What size are the stock tires?  They look huge still.  I'm thinking those are at least 31".
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: SMC4WD on October 20, 2006, 04:42:27 PM
Tire size is a 245/75-16 = 30.5"
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: SMC4WD on October 20, 2006, 04:45:01 PM
Picture #2...  you can barely see my little Nissan in the back

The picture with the windshield...  First, it's kinda cool how it's domed and bonded.  (Still a rock collector), also same picture...  Way way back in the distance you can barely see the LJ.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: dexetr30 on October 20, 2006, 05:45:16 PM
Quote from: "Jeffy"
Quote from: "dexetr30"

I had a car at one time that had power everything. If I had the windows down even the slightest bit when it rained the lockes would go crazy. Even a small amount of rainwater dripping in would cause havoc.  I guess I just like my Jeeps plain and simple. No a/c, power windows or power locks. I do like my tunes though so a good cd player is a must. :D


Ok, is this a current day car or some 80's land yaht?  I believe you can get manual windows on the JK.

One consideration with manual windows though.  If you put a cage in you might end up with non-op cranks.  I have to open my doors to be able to open my windows since my 6pt cage gets in the way.  I want to change them to electrics sooner or later.


It was an early 90's Ford Probe. It wasn't a bad car but it seems like the entire car went bad withing a months time. I was glad to see that car go to the scrap yard.  :twisted: Amazingly the Cadillac never had such a problem. That's up for sale now. The guy I bought the yj from was supposed to come look at it but he never called. :roll:  Maybe it's better that he doesn't.

Anyway, if the power windows and locks aren't going to go haywire than I'm all for them. It is a nice vehicle. I bet it would look pretty damn cool with some 35's.  8)
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: YJmechanic on October 21, 2006, 05:26:49 AM
sorry jeffy i forgot to take a camera into work but i'll take it in today and get the rubi pictures and e-mail them to you so you can post them up
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on October 21, 2006, 11:51:20 AM
Quote from: "YJmechanic"
sorry jeffy i forgot to take a camera into work but i'll take it in today and get the rubi pictures and e-mail them to you so you can post them up


Cook, thanks.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: chardrc on October 22, 2006, 08:47:47 PM
ok so i was reading a offroad magizin and they did a review on the jk and said something about the gas tank beign in the middle of the jeep so you cant do a long arm kit... how des that work(the gas tank configuration)
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: jagular7 on October 23, 2006, 09:22:11 AM
Quote from: "chardrc"
ok so i was reading a offroad magizin and they did a review on the jk and said something about the gas tank beign in the middle of the jeep so you cant do a long arm kit... how des that work(the gas tank configuration)


At Camp Jeep, I spoke with a Jeep Corp rep about this. The gov't will be coming out with a regulation where the fuel sulage will be mounted behind frame. Not knowing the specifics of the requirement, the rear crossmember wasn't enough. A lot of the vehicles have their tank midship. Doesn't really mean its better protected? Maybe in the gov't eyes....

Take a look at the H3, Xterra, the other large SUVs of today, etc. They are all getting a mid-ship tank design.

Doing a long arm with a midship tank location requires a relocation of the tank. You got to move the muffler and tail pipe, so whats wrong with a tank?  :lol:
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: chardrc on October 23, 2006, 02:57:01 PM
if thats so then jeep could have gone old school and put the tank under the drivers seat again...

wait but thats more unsafe in my eyes... would you rather have a gas tank exsplode directly unde you or out the back of your jeep.. and if you get a gas fire in the engin compartment you will ahve less time to get out befor the gas tank explodes
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: dunklervogel on October 23, 2006, 03:11:36 PM
This is just what I have read but the gas tank relocation was to move it to a place on the vehicle where it was less suseptable to being punctured in the event of a collision of some kind.  I don't believe they were thinking about the explosion dangers as much as just reducing the chance it would be hit/punctured.  The article (can't remember where I found it) also discussed how this change, along with several others on the JK, were a result of Jeep having to meet new safety regulations on the new model.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: chardrc on October 23, 2006, 04:32:18 PM
all i can say is... :rant: ing government..
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on October 23, 2006, 04:44:50 PM
Quote from: "chardrc"
all i can say is... :rant: ing government..


You don't even like the JK.  :lol1:  I think the whole long arm is a bit moot right now since the stock JK's run tires over 30" stock now.  They have a lot of fender room for 35's without much lift.  (2.5")  Even when you get to 4" it's not bad.  The suspension isn't quite the same as the arms do not hang below the frame anymore either.  They're up into the frame now.  This gives them more length and better angles.  Also, with the added length and width, there is probably a lot less torquing.  You're trying to compare an orange with a banana without actually have ever seen a banana.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: chardrc on October 23, 2006, 05:05:38 PM
Quote from: "Jeffy"
[You don't even like the JK. LOL
  You're trying to compare an orange with a banana without actually have ever seen a banana.


the jk is slowly growing on me...(althow i proably will never buy one..or atlest a new one in the next 10 years.).... and i would like toactualy get under a jk to see what its like under there... ive only seen the ovious parts of the jk not the fun drivetran and suspension parts.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: DemonicHuey on October 24, 2006, 04:34:24 AM
I thought the plastic flares were warning devices so u dont stratch the paint????....my bust.  The larger they are the more warning u have. lmao

In Vegas u can get away with running open wheels....
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on October 24, 2006, 05:39:33 PM
After looking at some ultra screwy picts of the JK I have, you could fairly easily add control arm mounts to the frame.  It probably wouldn't be bolt-on unless you were willing to drill the frame and insert sleeves.  You'd have to drop the tank for that though.  Still a Long arm suspension could be made.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: mud4feet on October 28, 2006, 03:54:18 PM
My main complaint is that the 4banger is no longer available  :shock:  :oops:  :oops: . SACRILEGE!!!!!! DC has forgotten the Jeep history.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on October 28, 2006, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: "mud4feet"
My main complaint is that the 4banger is no longer available  :shock:  :oops:  :oops: . SACRILEGE!!!!!! DC has forgotten the Jeep history.


All the Jeeps are too heavy now.  I think the V6 is a good base engine.  V6's were used in the Kaiser Era Jeeps and was a good engine.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: chardrc on October 28, 2006, 05:34:39 PM
Quote from: "Jeffy"


All the Jeeps are too heavy now.  I think the V6 is a good base engine.  V6's were used in the Kaiser Era Jeeps and was a good engine.


ant that the truth.. thats why i love old jeeps. there small light and can go anywhere.. and if you blow the motor cuz water got in it. its easy to pull and rebuild and or you can replace it with something more powerfull.

hearing kaiser and jeep together makes me think of Nazi jeep..
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: nobozos on November 15, 2006, 05:25:58 PM
Well, I think the new Jeep looks pretty cool BUT, in my opinion, it's not really a Jeep in the traditional sense. I understand that with the new Hummer H3, and the Toyota FJ Cruiser, Jeep has to compete in a growing marketplace and appeal to customers that want the look of a Jeep, but also want a quiet, comfortable ride, with all the little creature comforts. To me, that's not what owning a Jeep is all about. Sure, it's loud with the soft top, and the zipper windows are inconvenient, but the Jeep is supposed to be a utilitarian vehicle. It's not supposed to have molded plastic bumpers and power windows. Maybe I'm a traditionalist, or just a crotchety old bastard, but a Jeep is not a Jeep unless it has 4 leaf springs and a long, straight dash board.

That being said, it's a pretty cool looking vehicle. It's one that my wife would probably enjoy driving.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: gomi on November 15, 2006, 05:42:27 PM
Quote from: "Jeffy"
Quote from: "YJmechanic"
sorry jeffy i forgot to take a camera into work but i'll take it in today and get the rubi pictures and e-mail them to you so you can post them up


Cook, thanks.

Ha!! I don't know why but I think that's too funny...."Cook, Thanks"
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: dunklervogel on November 15, 2006, 07:25:00 PM
Quote from: "nobozos"
Well, I think the new Jeep looks pretty cool BUT, in my opinion, it's not really a Jeep in the traditional sense. I understand that with the new Hummer H3, and the Toyota FJ Cruiser, Jeep has to compete in a growing marketplace and appeal to customers that want the look of a Jeep, but also want a quiet, comfortable ride, with all the little creature comforts. To me, that's not what owning a Jeep is all about. Sure, it's loud with the soft top, and the zipper windows are inconvenient, but the Jeep is supposed to be a utilitarian vehicle. It's not supposed to have molded plastic bumpers and power windows. Maybe I'm a traditionalist, or just a crotchety old bastard, but a Jeep is not a Jeep unless it has 4 leaf springs and a long, straight dash board.

That being said, it's a pretty cool looking vehicle. It's one that my wife would probably enjoy driving.



Have to agree with ya.

But like many other things in this world, in the end it is all about the money.  They just couldnt make money with models like that.  I don't blame em for adjusting to try to catch more buyers.. just sad that things have to be that way.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Enjoi on November 15, 2006, 10:25:02 PM
bah a jeep has been since the 70s has been what you've been able to do with the jeep. The whole Built not bought thing to me is what a jeep is. All those parts you complain about, arent they argually better offroad than the 4 leefs and a straight dash? Times a' changin tis for sure.,
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: nobozos on November 17, 2006, 10:43:17 PM
Hey, don't get me wrong. I think the new Jeep is very capable. My point is this:

I used to be a big Volkswagen guy. I owned and fixed up 3 Bugs, my last being a '70 Baja. When the new Beetle came out, it was pretty cool, but, aside from some styling cues, it was in no way a VW Beetle. Not to say that the New Beetle isn't more comfortable, reliable, and capable than the older ones, it just isn't a Beetle.

My jeep is stock right now, except for some 31 inch tires, and after seeing the videos of the '07s, I'm quite sure that they would smoke mine on any trail unless I did some mods to mine. Isn't that the point though. You buy a stock Jeep, and then start looking for parts for it to make it better off-road. Customizing the stock Jeep to me is the fun part.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on November 17, 2006, 11:17:14 PM
...the 07 in the video had been lifted and had 33's on it...
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jesse-James on November 18, 2006, 06:47:02 AM
Quote from: "Jeffy"
...the 07 in the video had been lifted and had 33's on it...


Doesn't it come with 32's stock, can't see it being much of a difference.
Title: The new JK is here!!
Post by: Jeffy on November 18, 2006, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: "Jesse-James"

Doesn't it come with 32's stock, can't see it being much of a difference.


The X and Sahara run, P225/75R16.  The Rubicon runs 32's though.