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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: Jesse-James on October 25, 2006, 05:29:34 PM
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From another forum I'm on.....
Some of you may have known this guy... a bunch of people I work with bought their Jeeps from him....
Fatal Crash In Waukegan
WAUKEGAN, Ill. (STNG) -- A Beach Park man was killed and a Gurnee woman injured Monday morning when their cars collided at a north suburban Waukegan intersection.
Witnesses told police that at about 8:20 a.m., Kery Bond of Beach Park was driving a Jeep Commander southbound on Route 43 entering the Norman Drive intersection when a 2004 Jeep Wrangler, driven by Ashley Story, turned westbound from the northbound lanes on Route 43 and struck Bond’s vehicle, according to a release from Waukegan police.
The impact caused the Commander to slide across the intersection and strike a traffic light support, police said.
According to the release, Bond, 35,who suffered internal injuries, was pronounced dead at the scene by the Lake County Coroner’s office.
Story, 42, was transported to Condell Health Network in Libertyville with a broken leg, the release said. She was treated and released. The Gurnee woman was cited with making an improper left turn, Waukegan police Cmdr. Wayne Walles said.
Story and Bond were the only occupants in their vehicles, the release said.
Waukegan Police Major Traffic Accident Investigators continue to investigate the accident.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/EvIlJpr/Jeep1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/EvIlJpr/Jeep2.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/EvIlJpr/Jeep3.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/EvIlJpr/Jeep4.jpg)
I feel for his family.
Question...Is the Commander roof designed that poorly?
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holly crap
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My wife found this from a local paper... I copyed her post from our club website.
I found this:
Fatal Crash In Waukegan
WAUKEGAN, Ill. (STNG) -- A Beach Park man was killed and a Gurnee woman injured Monday morning when their cars collided at a north suburban Waukegan intersection.
Witnesses told police that at about 8:20 a.m., Kery Bond of Beach Park was driving a Jeep Commander southbound on Route 43 entering the Norman Drive intersection when a 2004 Jeep Wrangler, driven by Ashley Story, turned westbound from the northbound lanes on Route 43 and struck Bond’s vehicle, according to a release from Waukegan police.
The impact caused the Commander to slide across the intersection and strike a traffic light support, police said.
According to the release, Bond, 35,who suffered internal injuries, was pronounced dead at the scene by the Lake County Coroner’s office.
Story, 42, was transported to Condell Health Network in Libertyville with a broken leg, the release said. She was treated and released. The Gurnee woman was cited with making an improper left turn, Waukegan police Cmdr. Wayne Walles said.
Story and Bond were the only occupants in their vehicles, the release said.
Waukegan Police Major Traffic Accident Investigators continue to investigate the accident.
The guy that died was a Jeep sales man, The ironic thing is that the driver that died was Driving the Jeep to work (to sell Jeeps) was hit by a Jeep
Makes you think.
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ow that hurts.. wow that commandor is bent to nothin..
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thats unbelievable how bent that commander is you really do have to wonder about the construction of not only the roof but the frame, how fast did that wrangler hit the commander, very sad
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The commander hit the wrangler at a high rate of speed. The wrangler (typical woman) turned in front of the commander.
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They were traveling opposite ways on the same road, the TJ turned into the side of the Commander making it skid sideways into the curb which made it flip. There's not a mark on the front of the Commander. And I don't know about you, but I've seen just as many idiot male drivers as female.
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And I don't know about you, but I've seen just as many idiot male drivers as female.
Yup, same here. People are people and we all do stupid things.
The Commander looks like a dish rag wrapped around that pole. Doesn't look like it put up any resistance to caving in. Maybe the roof design needs another look.
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The Commander looks like a dish rag wrapped around that pole. Doesn't look like it put up any resistance to caving in. Maybe the roof design needs another look.
The roof is fine....what are the chances that a car/truck gets knocked on it's side at that rate of speed and hits a strong pole in that exact spot at that exact angle??
Same thing would have happened to almost every other vehicle out there.
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The Commander looks like a dish rag wrapped around that pole. Doesn't look like it put up any resistance to caving in. Maybe the roof design needs another look.
The roof is fine....what are the chances that a car/truck gets knocked on it's side at that rate of speed and hits a strong pole in that exact spot at that exact angle??
Same thing would have happened to almost every other vehicle out there.
Exactly. Also, aren't those poles supposed to be designed to brake away when hit :?: just to avoid severe collisions like that? I know they are around here anayway!
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Same thing would have happened to almost every other vehicle out there.
Not mine, no roof to stop the pole from directly bashing my head in. :shock:
Exactly. Also, aren't those poles supposed to be designed to brake away when hit :?: just to avoid severe collisions like that? I know they are around here anayway!
Thats one of the reasons for asking, it seems like every week there's another one down around here from not much more than a love tap.
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Not mine, no roof to stop the pole from directly bashing my head in. :shock:
Good...then we can easily fix your Jeep after your entire body has been pushed through the floor by a big pole.
:lol:
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The roof is fine....what are the chances that a car/truck gets knocked on it's side at that rate of speed and hits a strong pole in that exact spot at that exact angle??
Same thing would have happened to almost every other vehicle out there.
I just assumed (my bad :oops: ) that the vehicle was going 35mph or under since the article had no mention of a high rate of speed. At 55 mph I could easily see something like that happening.
As yellowta mentioned, I thought those poles were supposed to break away also. I've never actually seen one get hit but I know in my area they are supposed to break away and kick out when they are struck.
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hey I can use the rear end out of the commander!!!!!!!and maybe the front seats???
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hey I can use the rear end out of the commander!!!!!!!and maybe the front seats???
They do have nice front seats. By the looks of the pictures though... I think they were destroyed. The motor might be useable though. Can't tell if that's the Limited edition or not. If so, I think they come with a hemi? :?:
(http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2005_new_york/0504_6+2006_Jeep_Commander+Interior_View_Front_Cabin.jpg)
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nope...it is a base model (no chrome accents and no handles on the back)...and the Limited can actually have any of the three motors...standard is usually the 4.7L....
I, of course, have the Hemi and would have been able to accelerate past that biotch before she could turn into my side.:twisted:
Then again, I wonder if that guy was going 70 in a 45 and she miss-judged the left turn safety factor because he was going too fast?? That would explain why he hit the curb going sideways fast enough to be thrown into that pole. OUCH!
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And I don't know about you, but I've seen just as many idiot male drivers as female.
Yup, same here. People are people and we all do stupid things.
The Commander looks like a dish rag wrapped around that pole. Doesn't look like it put up any resistance to caving in. Maybe the roof design needs another look.
Were they really MALE or did they just look MALE?
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The roof is fine....what are the chances that a car/truck gets knocked on it's side at that rate of speed and hits a strong pole in that exact spot at that exact angle??
Same thing would have happened to almost every other vehicle out there.
I just assumed (my bad :oops: ) that the vehicle was going 35mph or under since the article had no mention of a high rate of speed. At 55 mph I could easily see something like that happening.
As yellowta mentioned, I thought those poles were supposed to break away also. I've never actually seen one get hit but I know in my area they are supposed to break away and kick out when they are struck.
I figured since it is a highway, the roof is F*%$ed and the vehicle is wrapped around the pole. Seeing as how our managers , and bosses in the U.S today are too damn strict to be human, he was probably hauling a$$ because he was late for work, sipping the hot cup o" Joe , or picking his nose, then the BIZATCH turned in front of him because she was jealous he had a better Jeep. Maybe she was tired and up all night doing methamphetamine and did not see the car. crazy man. Watch out on the highways.
I say we all get smart and copy Dale Jr. Wear helmets, in car full roll cages, turbulence wind flaps, bring back "pit crews" at gas stations.
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the BIZATCH turned in front of him because she was jealous he had a better Jeep.
How do you get the he had a better Jeep. She was driving a Jeep he was driving a Dodge that said Jeep.
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How do you get the he had a better Jeep. She was driving a Jeep he was driving a Dodge that said Jeep.
^ Yeah, what he said. :lol:
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What is this, pick on me day or what ?
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the BIZATCH turned in front of him because she was jealous he had a better Jeep.
How do you get the he had a better Jeep. She was driving a Jeep he was driving a Dodge that said Jeep.
How did you type that? If I were as bad as you I would be with Michelle Jackson in India promoting the new album "How to look like a girl and play it off, Yankee style" or just " Unich's Paradise".
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Well, I read the article and it looks like she T-boned him on the front driver side which causes him to lose control and hit the curb sideways where it rolled and hit the pole. If that's a 35mph zone, I'd guess he was probably doing at least 40-45mph if there was no traffic. Seems like there wasn't since the roads are still empty when the photographer got there. The TJ still has a lot of damage so she probably wasn't stopped or slow for the turn. I'd imagine the TJ wouldn't have held up much better since those spreader bars are thin wall.
The pole looks like it ripped through the weakest part of the roof, over the doors. It probably would have come down if it was hit by a more solid part of the vehicle. If the Firefighters are still there cutting after the fact then they are probably still trying to recover the driver. Would you honestly want seats from that type of wreck? Not much worth taking anyway. I'd probably pass it up.
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How do you get the he had a better Jeep. She was driving a Jeep he was driving a Dodge that said Jeep.
I'm sorry?? What Dodge is the Commander based on??
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damn....one hell of a way to go....
Sait Peter: ok how did u die
Commander Owner: Well I was changing the song on my CD player ...then all of a sudden a hottie in a wrangler comes out of no where and....well .....Saint Pete u ever hear Jimmy Hendrix music when u see a hottie?...anyway next this i see is the roof of my jeep....
Sait Peter: What song do u hear? :)
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Poiple haze !!!
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Ummmm, I'd think it would be Foxy Lady.
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Negatory , negatory in My Opinion. I know my old music and Purple Haze talks about being in a Drug Haze, but it was induced by a Woman.
Keep your eyes on what's proper, and not the Woman. That's what the story says.
Homie don't like RAP. Busta a rhyme and it's the end of my time, but break out some Jimmy and I can give it some skinny.
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Also if you notice in this pic the roof has multiple sunroofs which would weakin the roof line as well.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/EvIlJpr/Jeep3.jpg)
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Also if you notice in this pic the roof has multiple sunroofs which would weakin the roof line as well.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/EvIlJpr/Jeep3.jpg)
uuuuggghh...that has NOTHING to do with it....The ONLY thing that would have prevented that roof, or any other for that matter, from doing what it did is a serious roll cage that at least had support running down the center of the vehicle (front to back).
Logically speaking, no roof would have been better as long as the pole hit at least just behind the driver.
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this is getting about out of control.
1 i wouldn't be thinking about what parts i could use when someone dies in a wreck or at least not right away
2 i'm not sure how a commander is a dodge
3 roof scheme doesn't matter all roofs are flimsy they don't intend on the vehicle to flip and catch something in mid air dead center
4 i would take a 4.7 over a hemi any day.
5 a wrangler or cj will always be better than wj,xj,kj,zj, etc.... in my opinion
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:wall: :uhoh:
Lord,
I apologize for writing stuff that appeared as ambigous. :bow: I'll try not to do it again. :bow:
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(http://www.lonestarstangs.com/forum/images/smilies/ohsnap.gif)
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INAPPROPRIATE you guys
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this is getting about out of control.
1 i wouldn't be thinking about what parts i could use when someone dies in a wreck or at least not right away
My thoughts exactly!
I didn't post it first because I didn't want to go of on people! :rant: :x
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this is getting about out of control.
1 i wouldn't be thinking about what parts i could use when someone dies in a wreck or at least not right away
My thoughts exactly!
I didn't post it first because I didn't want to go of on people! :rant: :x
I'll quote myself :lol1:
If the Firefighters are still there cutting after the fact then they are probably still trying to recover the driver. Would you honestly want seats from that type of wreck? Not much worth taking anyway. I'd probably pass it up.
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Wrangler - 1 Commander - 0
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ok guys this thread needs to come to an end, some of the stuff being said now is in bad taste, i won't quote, but i believe you can figure it out on your own.