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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: Chad on January 13, 2007, 11:33:40 AM
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Well I removed this quick release bars last night from the front end, not really sure what they were all about, when I got my lift installed they were on it, the bottoms of them connected in front of the front coil springs, and the top was connected to that U shaped bar that runs behind the bumper to each wheel well. Sorry my gearhead vocab is not so good, by the way I just found out I graduated from University of Colorado yesterday.
Anyhow anyone know what these quick release things do seems like the just stiffen up the front up and give it less travel
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That's your swaybar. You probably want to leave that connected when driving onroad. Disconnect it when offroad.
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I completly removed my swaybar on my mostly street TJ. It doesnt seem to handle any differntly than when it had it on. Plus i dont have to fiddle with them when i decide to take them off.
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rip out the sway bars and track bars, consider it weight reduction. with the amount of time you will spend fidgeting with the sway bar quick disconnects you will end up taking them out all together.
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I've used polyurethane sway bar bushings versus rubber on a different vehicle and there was a pronounced improvement in handling, as a result.
I'll probably swap all of the rubber sway-bar bushings on my YJ to polyurethane when I go to the JKS quicker disconnects. If you haven't tried polyurethane bushings, you'll probably like them over the stock rubber ones (and, yeah, I know the weaknesses of the polys). Don't know if they (polys) will make you want to keep your sway-bar(s) on and connected while on-road, but ithey might.
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What is the sway suppose to do anyway? Just stabilize the ride? I haven't noticed a huge difference since its been disconnected except I think its more difficult to keep it straight and on the road, they are a pain the ass to deal with
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what are the track bars?
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track bars are soposed to keep the axle centered under the vehicle, no difference with or w/o them. and the sway bar is soposed to stop body roll. with it in it limits flex, but also helps under hard braking conditions. i dont kno but IMO i like it w/o the sway and track ars, original cjs didnt have them so they are obviously not needed.
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The trackbar helps locate the axle. On a YJ, what it does is limits movement and makes the ride stiff. This was done in conjunction with lower the Wrangler an inch and making the stance a bit wider. Why? because in the 80's a show called 60 Minutes did a segment on Jeeps and how they roll over easy. Chrysler needed to turn this around.
Now the swaybar is there to limit body roll or sway. This was used on the later CJ's also. The swaybar only works when one wheel is raised or lowered. The swaybar tries to force the lifting side back down. If both sides compress together, the swaybar does nothing, ie. heavy braking.
If your suspension is stiff to begin with you probably won't notice any difference with the swaybar off. This is especially true if you still have the trackbar on. If you have a hardtop or a roof rack you'll really notice a lot of body roll without the swaybar and trackbar.
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there we go jeffy always proving us wrong. jk its nice to know that we have a plethora of knowledge around.
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jsut remember if you have a tj or jk you need the track bar to keep the asels under your rig.. unless you have a special sespinsion.
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rip out the sway bars and track bars, consider it weight reduction. with the amount of time you will spend fidgeting with the sway bar quick disconnects you will end up taking them out all together.
Noooooooo, do not rip out the track bars if it is a TJ. As for the the sway bars... I'd leave them installed unless you can get use to driving without it connected. I had a 2000 sport a few years back with 33's and a 3" lift that had the bars permanently removed and it felt fine to me. I just had to get use to the way it took sharp corners. It takes some driving habit changes.
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ok well if you have ayj rip them out :D