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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: Alacran on January 25, 2007, 06:54:13 AM
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Hello all, first time posting here. I've been reading all the threads here and like what I see, great information. I have a choice that I need to make and I hope you can help me. I've got 2 Jeeps to choose from. One is a 91 with 90k miles, 4cyl, 5 spd, with hard top (I would sell the hard top and replace with soft). Owner is asking $3800. Second is a 95 with 165k, 4cyl, 5 spd, new stereo, Borla exhaust, soft top. Owner is asking $3500 OBO. All other things being equal, good tires, body, interior, well maintained, which would be the better choice? I like the lower miles on the one but also like the lower price and newer model on the other. Thanks.
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That's a tough choice... newer with lots of miles or older with acceptable miles.... Isn't 91 a carb 2.5? The newer one is injection.
It may be essayer to find a doner jeep to get a replacement engine on the newer one. How dose the frame look on the older one? In my area it is very rare to find a older jeep with a good frame, they rot so fast with all the salt.
Is this going to be a daily driver or just a off road toy?
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I think he already bought it...was posting on the 4wd forum as well...can't remember which one.
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No, haven't bought yet. 91 is also FI. 91 is also in Phoenix so doubt any problem with rust. These would be more for play. Also Jeep would be driven down to Mexico and used there.
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The 91 sounds better. You can sell the hard top and get a not too expensive soft top and end up with some cash. You may even be able to trade with somebody with a cash transfer for the difference (a guy came up to me in the street one day and offered such a deal for my hard top). If all else is equal as you mention, the only advantage of the 95 is larger front axle u-joints.
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yea 91 tho it's older sounds better, it has the older style roll bar, and older brake design so, the 95 is better in ways too. that is a tough decision. also is it a late production 95 or early, if its a late production, you will have problems figuring out which parts you need b/c jeep put some tj parts on late 95s. all in all i'd go with the 91
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Ok, no 2.5L Wrangler has ever had a carb. They have all had EFI. The '91 does not have an older brake design
nor does it have the older roll bar style. For the most part 90% of the parts are the same. (297x vs. 260x front U-joints, external vs. internal slave and some minor changes with the carrier are the only ones that might be of any concern. For someone just starting out, it won't even be an issue.)
Price means nothing. You can recoup the difference by selling the hardtop, if that's your plan. What really makes the difference are the mileage. Depending on how well it was taken care of you could be looking at a rebuild in only 30,000 miles or less. 70,000 less miles is worth $400 difference. I'd say $1000 would be a good pillow. If that engine goes, you'll be looking at a whole lot more. Speaking of problems, you better have some money left over to fix any preexisting or new problems that might come up. $1000 would be a good pillow.
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my buddy has a 91 w/ the older roll cage.
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my buddy has a 91 w/ the older roll cage.
Doh! I just remembered. 1991 was the only year for the new MPFI engine and the OLD style cage. Sorry about that!
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The older cage being the one that slants straight down towards the rear instead of a bend at the rear then down?
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ya the older is the one without the roll over protection for the pasengers...
id say get the 91 with lower miles
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no 2.5L Wrangler has ever had a carb. They have all had EFI.
I stand corrected.... I was not 100% sure on that one... what was the first year EFI was put on?
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what your confused about is that yj years 1990 and before were tbi fuel injection and 19 and up were mpi fuel injected.
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no 2.5L Wrangler has ever had a carb. They have all had EFI.
I stand corrected.... I was not 100% sure on that one... what was the first year EFI was put on?
I believe the engine was TBI from 1984-1990. Although the CJ's ('83-'84) always used carbs. I don't think the XJ ever had carbs. MPFI started in 1991 and has been unchanged till '06 when they stopped production.
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If it helps any here are some pictures of my choices.
#1- 91 with 90k, $3800
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/dcstroker/91Jeep.jpg)
#2-95 with 165k, $3500 OBO
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/dcstroker/95Jeep.jpg)
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ouch white jeep... that hurts. is the 95 black or dark green... i dont know just my preference not to have a white vehicul.. but the motor miles could make that a winer.
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Dark green
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white on white thats pimp after seeing that i'd go with the 95, unless you sell the hard top and get a black soft top, or completely cover it in mud they day you get it and never clean it, mud makes everything look better.
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or you could rattle can it since it is a jeep.. ( i already have a rattle can of black paint set aside for my jeep.
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I'm not fond of white on white but you can always paint the top. Although you said you wanted to get rid if it. I'd still choose it over the 95. The 95 has larger tires and probably some lift. This is a higher chance it's been wheeled. More importantly, how was it lifted. I'll guess it has huge lift shackles. Are those 31's or 32's. I don't see any transfer case shims so I bet it has a shackle lift. The wheels are nice on the 95 but I can't tell what the offset is. it looks like the tires are a few inches past the flares though.
Anyway, the 73,500 mile difference is HUGE! Honestly, it's no contest.