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Title: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: chrisfranklin on February 28, 2007, 08:30:11 PM
This was news to me:  http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070211/BUSINESS02/70210022.

Apparently 82% - up from original planned 60% - of current JK production is for the 4-Door Unlimited.

 
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: Jeffy on February 28, 2007, 08:34:52 PM
They underestimated the appeal of the 4dr.  Last I heard there as a bottle neck with the hardtops.  They couldn't make them fast enough.  They are also making more Rubicons, I believe.
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: Chad on March 01, 2007, 02:41:50 PM
I'm not really surprised though, I mean I would rather have a TJ or even a YJ for that matter than a new JK 2dr. but the 4 dr on the other hand is bad ass.
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: Sidscan on March 01, 2007, 03:21:13 PM
I think those 4 doors are pretty awsome.  I just hope it doesn't fit the soccer Mom crowd.  I guess if it does in 5 years or so there maybe opportunities to get on used.  Though probably driven rough. 

Oil change whats that don't I just put gas in it and go.  :'(
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: chrisfranklin on March 01, 2007, 04:56:44 PM
I just hope it doesn't fit the soccer Mom crowd. 

Probably will.  Looks like DC and their dealership network are going to sound like these soccer announcers when it comes to selling the 4 Door Unlimiteds:   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ6oz54qh9w (fast forward 30 seconds in to he video) :hitit:

Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: jagular7 on March 02, 2007, 07:31:58 AM
I think those 4 doors are pretty awsome.  I just hope it doesn't fit the soccer Mom crowd.  I guess if it does in 5 years or so there maybe opportunities to get on used.  Though probably driven rough. 

Oil change whats that don't I just put gas in it and go.  :'(

Actually, I would prefer the soccer moms to purchase them. In time, the pickings will be plenty to choose. Take a look at the XJ Cherokee. It started life in 1984 as a smaller replacement for the heavy beast of a Wagoneer. 2001 (IIRC) was the last year for it.  That was a 17 yr run on a single vehicle style. I had an 87 for over 9 yrs. Nothing was available in early 90's (only 6-8 yrs old) for these great wheeling rigs. Now look at the aftermarket. The following is tremendous. Its probably because they are much more affordable to those who buy them used. The CJ5 - early 60s through 83 - 20 yrs. CJ7, started in 77 through 86 - 11 yrs.  YJ - 87 to 95 (no 96 Wranglers were built) - only 8 yrs. How many of these other models do you see on the road versus other mfrs?
Introduction of a 4dr open cab utility is probably due from Jeep. The Liberty was to enbrace the XJ owners with a smaller more economical 4wd, but Jeep found their market share losing. As a business, Jeep, like any other mfr, could careless about a single owner. Its all about the masses.

Think of it as demand and supply. The demand is high for the soccer moms. In ~10 yrs, their children who can't afford new vehicles will be looking for cheap transportation. Getting a good street used 4wd Rubicon JK (~98% of 4wd don't see dirt) would be perfect for them. Little expense to lift, regear, tired, and they are off to the world. A lot of us couldn't, and still can't no matter their age, afford a newer 4wd vehicle, modify, and wheel.
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: JeepManMarc on March 04, 2007, 11:12:20 PM
I prefer the 2 door over the 4 door, I like how small my Jeep is, and for the tight trails here, (almost like ATV trails) its ideal to have a shorter Jeep.
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: chardrc on March 10, 2007, 03:37:03 PM
after going to the auto show today.. the one thing i don't like about the new jeeps is the gas tank being in the middle of the jeep.. if you were to get high centered or slam the middle underbelly of your jeep your at the mercy of the gas tanks skid plate... and were the gas tank used to be there is a huge and i mean huge muffler.. its gotta be 2x as big as the stock muffler form my dads rubi. 

and then the compass and patriot with there pull this flimsy small lever thing to lock 4wd  :puzzled: :puzzled:.. what..
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: Mozman68 on March 10, 2007, 07:22:10 PM
I think the gas tank is in a better spot...I can't tell you how many times I've gone into a hole and felt the rear of my Jeep slamming into the ground.....I rarely if ever high center.
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: Enjoi on March 12, 2007, 01:12:00 PM
oh its in a better spot the gas tank, espically for stock. The first thing i ever broke on my jeep was the gas tank. slid off and landed straight on a rock
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: neale_rs on March 12, 2007, 01:21:34 PM
The rear axle shock mounts look way too low on the JK.  They are close to the tire, which is good, but way too low.
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: evanjm on April 24, 2007, 05:43:35 PM
I think those 4 doors are pretty awsome.  I just hope it doesn't fit the soccer Mom crowd.  I guess if it does in 5 years or so there maybe opportunities to get on used.  Though probably driven rough. 

Oil change whats that don't I just put gas in it and go.  :'(

Actually, I would prefer the soccer moms to purchase them. In time, the pickings will be plenty to choose. Take a look at the XJ Cherokee. It started life in 1984 as a smaller replacement for the heavy beast of a Wagoneer. 2001 (IIRC) was the last year for it.  That was a 17 yr run on a single vehicle style. I had an 87 for over 9 yrs. Nothing was available in early 90's (only 6-8 yrs old) for these great wheeling rigs. Now look at the aftermarket. The following is tremendous. Its probably because they are much more affordable to those who buy them used. The CJ5 - early 60s through 83 - 20 yrs. CJ7, started in 77 through 86 - 11 yrs.  YJ - 87 to 95 (no 96 Wranglers were built) - only 8 yrs. How many of these other models do you see on the road versus other mfrs?
Introduction of a 4dr open cab utility is probably due from Jeep. The Liberty was to enbrace the XJ owners with a smaller more economical 4wd, but Jeep found their market share losing. As a business, Jeep, like any other mfr, could careless about a single owner. Its all about the masses.


There are a few things that aren't quite right there man..

CJ5s were produced from 1955 through 1983, the longest production span of any civilian jeep, they're also the most plentiful of any CJ.
CJ7s were from 76-86, which is 10 years.
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: Jesse-James on April 24, 2007, 07:21:51 PM
I just hope it doesn't fit the soccer Mom crowd.

I could care less who buys them, as long as they live on. How many of us bought there Jeep new anyway.





Other than Jeffy....
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: damon54 on April 24, 2007, 08:44:08 PM
I just hope it doesn't fit the soccer Mom crowd.

I could care less who buys them, as long as they live on. How many of us bought there Jeep new anyway.





Other than Jeffy....

Thats the plan isn't it?  Let the soccer moms pay the new vehicle price and absorb the depreciation then you pick one up that is a few years old.  I wouldn't feel so bad about breaking it on the trails then.......  I still can't bring myself to look at a TJ yet.   :ass:
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: Mozman68 on April 25, 2007, 10:42:32 AM
 :thumbsup:

yep...I totally agree with you....


...you are 18 years old and know nothing..... :clap:
Title: Re: JK Production currently 82% 4 Door Unlimiteds
Post by: damon54 on April 25, 2007, 03:57:50 PM
Ouch..you walked right into that one.