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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: lanulos89 on March 19, 2007, 01:30:38 PM
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so today started my axle swap at school, i dragged the rear there with my bros quad trailer, stripped them down, and sealed up the diff, and cut off the track bar bracket. morow gonna sand em down and prime em. wouldve taken the front there too but its buried in like a foot of snow on my front lawn so its gonna be a while before the fornt goes in. but went back to high school at lunch time goto park and got stuck with the trailer. i parked up a snow bank backed the trailer up and high centered my jeep, haha, went in to school and yea went through the day, got some boards from the wood shop teacher, and stuffed them under my tires and pulled out, only mild tire screatching, was best part of my day by far.
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You should have used the board to press on the gas pedal and you on the back bumper for weight. :brick:
Sometimes, depending on the surface condition, letting a little air out of the tires provides enough to bit and go.
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What axle are you swaping in?
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dana 30 and 35 same ones, they just have the 4.10's i depspartly need, and i put a locright in the rear. (marc dont jump all over me about it )
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Hope you didn't pay much for the D35, why swap instead of regear?
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Dang, I figured youd just put er in 4 wheel and out ya go. Set the fat boy at school on the bumper with a sundae and let er rip :smokes:.
I heard one cannot run different ration axles together. My TJ's driveline spins all the time, so that much off would cause some binding I thought. i know squat about any other jeep really though, just mechanical theory (most of the time).
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Hope you didn't pay much for the D35, why swap instead of regear?
I swapped my old open 35 for one with an arb in it. Paid $400.00 plus air pump and kit, it had a fresh overhaul too with new brakes. It works too, tried it this weekend on easy stuff.
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OKAY PEOPLE FOR THE LAST TIME I KNOW I CANT RUN DIFFERENT GEARS IN FRONT AND REAR AXLES GEEEZZZ.. I HAVE A D30 BURIED IN MY FRONT LAWN.... i paid 250 for both front and rear axle. good deal especially for 4.10's .
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dana 30 and 35 same ones, they just have the 4.10's i depspartly need, and i put a locright in the rear. (marc dont jump all over me about it )
Don't forget to keep your old shafts in the back when you wheel. You''l probably need one of them eventually.
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Swapping in the front should be the easiest of the axles. Just don't undue your calipers from the brake lines. They should bolt on the next axle. Roll one in, roll one out.
With you getting stuck, you could have shifted into 4wd and driven out of it. You just don't want to go any distance with the mismatched gear ratios and not have any 'slip' in the tire surface. Just to pull yourself out of the situation would have been fine.
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tommorow morning is D day going in half hour early to get started, rear will be in, or i aint leaving school lol wish me luck, ill get pictures of the process.
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sweet.. good luck man..
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rear is swaped in and dang big difference. what a day goto attach the driveshaft, and one of the driveshaft yoke bolts break :brick: . so i ended up taking the old yoke off my old axle and swaping it around. worked like a charm, but 300lbs of torque is hell to acheive. the front axle is loaded up on the trailer waiting to goto school morow gonna sand it down and prime it paint it. friday install it, then this weekend go wheeling yaaaaaaaa
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Good luck man! Glad to see you are getting them done! Post pics!
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effing front rusted shit, all the 4wd vaccum assembly bolts broke, no swap morow, oh well 2wd wheeling this weekend
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ouch thats too bad.. you were making alot of progress.
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effing front rusted [censored], all the 4wd vaccum assembly bolts broke, no swap morow, oh well 2wd wheeling this weekend
So why did you have to take the cover off anyway?
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the guy i bought them from dropped the axle and smashed the vaccum assembly :guns:
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new plan of action is to take the ring and pinion out of the old axle and swap them into the axle that is currently installed in my jeep. im gonna end up plasma cutting this axle apart to even get the gears out, its really rust. so no 4wd for a while now which is kinda aggravating, i guess ill be going 2 wheeling instead of 4 wheeling
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new plan of action is to take the ring and pinion out of the old axle and swap them into the axle that is currently installed in my jeep. im gonna end up plasma cutting this axle apart to even get the gears out, its really rust. so no 4wd for a while now which is kinda aggravating, i guess ill be going 2 wheeling instead of 4 wheeling
Why not just clean up the axle and extract the broken bolts?
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i need new u joints in the axle shafts, not sure what they are called exaclty., and i cant get the three bolts that hold either shaft loose, impact gun, heat nothing is working . so i figure cut them apart and take the gears and throw them in and take the loss on the front axle. 200 to regear still isnt too shabby
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what kind of school do u attend? we couldn't do nething but shutup and listen at my high school,they built us a brand new school and traded in the shop for a new computer lab for cad drawing
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in my high school senior year, you onl;y have to have 4 class credits, i could either do half day of high school, or they offer a boxes program, its a career technical institue as they all it. i get my four credits in the afternoon. so pretty much its i goto a diff building in the morn to a full size shop where they teach us about cars, touch the basics you need to be a tech. most of the kids there cant even do brakes, so me and a couple of my friends there are way ahead, and the teacher knows so he pretty much lets us do what we want. the week before last we pulled an engine and trans out of a 92 celica and swapped it in to a different celica, in 9 hours book time is 14.
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nice... my school shop is ok... we have a few mills and laves but for working on cars... the shop teacher has been working on converting his 4banger Toyota truck into a hydraulic driven truck.. for the last 2 years and still hasn't gotten much done so we cant really do anything there...
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lanulos89 -
When I replaced my vac. assembly, I broke some of the bolts that hold it on. Once the heads were removed I pried the vac cover off. Soaked the remains in PB Blaster a few times and barely got them out with vice grips... Had a just enough to get them out.
The other bolts you can't get loose are the 3 that hold the unit/wheel bearings in right ? Try pulling the brake calipers and rotors off and get to the back side of the bolts... (I think they go all the way thru.)
Something else you might try is to heat them up cherry red and quench them with water. That usually breaks anything loose!
Don't give up yet!
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Yeah, PB Nut Blaster is supposed to be the best.
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tha xle is stripped, to bare minumums, im just gonna swap the gears, i dont give up guys, anyways, my fornt in my jeep now is in like 10000000000 times better condition than the other one.
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ok well yea oil change on jeep today, pulling it onto thealignment rack teacher notices the drve shaft spins a whole turn b4 is grabs the gears, yaya AXLE REBUILD. shit never ends with this axle swap tale. pinion gear is loose and is moving in and out. great day 150 bucks at jeep and i got the parts, just need to start doing it, got every thing all bearing and seal to completely rebuild the axle. cant wait to rip it open yet again....
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man i had totally forgotten about your axle swap.. good luck with the rebuild.
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When you regeared the axle are you sure you collapsed the collapsible spacer om the pinion sounds to me you did not collapse it it takes a lot of torque to do so or a very good 1/2 impact. Which is my prefered method. Otherwise it takes something close to 350 to 400 lbs/ft to collapse it. Either way you keep tightening till there is no play then spin pinion about10-20 revolution then check with an pound/inch scale beam or dial torque wrench
it should have 10-15 lbs/inch torque while turning near 10 for used bearings near 15 for new bearings.
I hope this gets you on the right track
Art
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never regeared, i took the stock jeep 4.10 axles and replaced them with my stock 3.73's. switch that around the 3.73 s came out the 4.10's went in
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The pinion just turns a lot or you can actually move it up dpwn and sideways?
Art
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The pinion just turns a lot or you can actually move it up dpwn and sideways?
Art
Also if you have a lockright or aussie type locker, the driveshaft will turn nearly a complete turn. It's normal from what I hear... If not, then something else must be wrong