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Title: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: neale_rs on August 27, 2007, 02:30:52 PM
I'm looking into ways to fit some 32 inch tires on a YJ with no rubbing and as small a lift as possible.

Is a 2.5" OME lift enough for 32 inch tires?

How about a 2.5" OME lift plus 5" shackles (for a total of 3" of lift)?

Thanks

Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: Jeffy on August 27, 2007, 02:50:01 PM
The OME lift is designed for 32's so it will be fine.  Depending on your wheel offset though, the tires will probably rub the flares if they stick out too far.
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: neale_rs on August 28, 2007, 08:05:12 AM
Thanks Jeffy.  I'll probably go with 32 X 10.5 Super Swampers so they won't stick out too far.

Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: willierust on August 28, 2007, 02:04:35 PM
I am running on 32 x 11.50's with a budget 2" lift.  Have not had any issues at all.  Only thing noticable is the decreased power at highway speeds.  I have a new set of 4.88 gears.  Just need to put them on...
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: neale_rs on August 28, 2007, 04:50:05 PM
I am running on 32 x 11.50's with a budget 2" lift.  Have not had any issues at all.  Only thing noticable is the decreased power at highway speeds.  I have a new set of 4.88 gears.  Just need to put them on...

Is this on a Yj?  How did you lift it?  Thanks
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: Jeffy on August 28, 2007, 05:30:56 PM
Looks like he's got a TJ which has 1-2" more clearance then with a YJ.
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: Bounty Hunter on August 28, 2007, 09:00:28 PM
Installing TJ fender flares will do a lot for fitting larger tires with less lift.  Requires a little metal trimming, nothing major.
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: neale_rs on August 29, 2007, 07:39:24 AM
Thanks,  I might just go with that.
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: jagular7 on August 30, 2007, 06:50:29 AM
I'd look at a combination of longer shackles, slight body lift, and the TJ flares. I'd remove the track bars (frame to axle rod), add disconnects to the front sway bar, replace shocks, steering stabilizerk, and check the brakes, steering, ds and axle joints.
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: neale_rs on August 30, 2007, 08:09:19 AM
I'd like to avoid longer shackles and body lifts but what you say is encouraging because it seems it won't take all that much lift to fit the 32s.  Thanks

Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: Jeffy on August 30, 2007, 10:34:58 AM
I'd like to avoid longer shackles and body lifts but what you say is encouraging because it seems it won't take all that much lift to fit the 32s.  Thanks



You can fit 35's with enough chopping.  :uhoh:
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: neale_rs on August 30, 2007, 10:50:08 AM
Here is an interesting link:  http://www.jpmagazine.com/projectbuild/154_0503_1998_jeep_wrangler_tj_tire_fitting/index.html
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: Jeffy on August 30, 2007, 12:06:39 PM
Here is an interesting link:  http://www.jpmagazine.com/projectbuild/154_0503_1998_jeep_wrangler_tj_tire_fitting/index.html

Yeah, that ran a few years ago.  It was a freelancer submitted article and not a very good one.
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: jfrabat on August 30, 2007, 12:41:30 PM
You can fit 35's with enough chopping.  :uhoh:

There's an article in JP Magazine (some issues back) about a 35" fitted in a Jeep with no suspension lift (mind you, a lot of trimming was done if I remember correctly!).  There was also another article (I think it was called low slung Jeep or something like that) about a Jeep with very little lift and something like 41" tires fitted.  That one looked REALLY nice!

Felipe
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: neale_rs on August 30, 2007, 01:16:02 PM
Here is an interesting link:  http://www.jpmagazine.com/projectbuild/154_0503_1998_jeep_wrangler_tj_tire_fitting/index.html

Yeah, that ran a few years ago.  It was a freelancer submitted article and not a very good one.

Yeah, they didn't get any good pictures of the work that was done.
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: jagular7 on August 30, 2007, 09:28:14 PM
I'd like to avoid longer shackles and body lifts but what you say is encouraging because it seems it won't take all that much lift to fit the 32s.  Thanks



The approach angle of a YJ is basically too low. Adding longer shackles won't help, but getting larger tires on will. Its a give/take option you have to look at. Same with body lifts, like you stated. You don't have to get a tall spacer lift, but could look at replacing the old rubber bushings with new poly bushings that are actually 1+" taller than stock height. Its not significant and some don't really notice at all (minimize body to frame gap). If you can get some lift springs cheap or used, you could keep your stock shackles. I suggested shocks for better performance and with sway bar disconnected, you can get more droop out of the springs. You'll have to bend up the spring clamps to get them to stretch more. If you keep the clamps up, you keep the springs in alignment. I also stated to check the conditions of the joints in the driveline. Most don't perform maintenance on the joints and with no grease, the bearing dry out.

When I got my TJ with 112k miles, the joints looked ok, no jiggle or pop with a screwdriver. However, when I rebuilt the front axle in less than the year, the ball joints were dry and the u-joints popped in my hands. I couldn't even rotate one shaft with ease. I've now got 118k miles in 4 years. 
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: Jesse-James on August 30, 2007, 09:30:18 PM
Yeah, they didn't get any good pictures of the work that was done.

They never do.....

These are the same people that published an article claiming the 8.8 wasn't much better than the Turdy5.
Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: neale_rs on August 31, 2007, 08:07:00 AM
I'd like to avoid longer shackles and body lifts but what you say is encouraging because it seems it won't take all that much lift to fit the 32s.  Thanks



The approach angle of a YJ is basically too low. Adding longer shackles won't help, but getting larger tires on will. Its a give/take option you have to look at. Same with body lifts, like you stated. You don't have to get a tall spacer lift, but could look at replacing the old rubber bushings with new poly bushings that are actually 1+" taller than stock height. Its not significant and some don't really notice at all (minimize body to frame gap). If you can get some lift springs cheap or used, you could keep your stock shackles. I suggested shocks for better performance and with sway bar disconnected, you can get more droop out of the springs. You'll have to bend up the spring clamps to get them to stretch more. If you keep the clamps up, you keep the springs in alignment. I also stated to check the conditions of the joints in the driveline. Most don't perform maintenance on the joints and with no grease, the bearing dry out.

When I got my TJ with 112k miles, the joints looked ok, no jiggle or pop with a screwdriver. However, when I rebuilt the front axle in less than the year, the ball joints were dry and the u-joints popped in my hands. I couldn't even rotate one shaft with ease. I've now got 118k miles in 4 years. 

I'm pretty good about  maintenance but yeah some of the DS u-joints (2 of the 4) are the original (non-greasable) ones. The axle u-joints have been replaced.  I've also replaced 2 of 4 tie rod/drag link ends and in general have spent the last 1+ years getting it into top condition before lifting it, plus swapped in a rear D44.

So would you say a 2.5 lift with the new poly spacers would be enough for 32s?  With that and TJ flares I would think it should be enough but haven't actually seen the combo.

Thanks

Title: Re: YJ lift for 32 inch tires
Post by: jfrabat on August 31, 2007, 08:59:12 AM
So would you say a 2.5 lift with the new poly spacers would be enough for 32s?  With that and TJ flares I would think it should be enough but haven't actually seen the combo.

I used to run my 31's on no lift.  Granted you, they rubbed the flares when I hit a bump, but my suspension was also 14 years old!  So I see no reason why you cannot run 32's on 2.5" of lift.  And if you do need a little more clearance, a 1" body lift should be more than enough (but considering you can fit 33's with 4" of lift, I am not so sure you will need it; maybe just new spacers are enough).

Felipe