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Title: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: blacknblue on September 17, 2007, 08:38:40 PM
So I am thinking about an intake mod such as an AEM Brute Force or WeaponR secret weapon intake kit.  I would also like to run a safari snorkel for light water crossing/trail dust.  I imagine that having the intake near the roof line would act as a ram air intake and force a lot of cold air into the throttle.  I would hate to have an intake exposed like the airraid is right were it can get wet.  Anyone else running a snorkel?  Noticed any HP changes?  I plan on using a K&N filter, but could the snorkel be modified to accept intake kits such as the air raid or AEM?  I kinda like the looks and functionallity of the snorkel versus the small hp gains of an intake.  Seems step one in engine mods is getting the coldest and cleanest air into the throttle, at the same time I could keep water out.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: 95yj4 on September 17, 2007, 09:23:59 PM
I'm pretty sure the snorkel has a tube that connects directly into the stock air box. So you could probably modify the air box to fit a cone filter, but why do that when you could just use a K&N drop-in? That and if you go trailing you can ppull the K&N and put the stock back in.
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Jeffy on September 17, 2007, 10:05:00 PM
So I am thinking about an intake mod such as an AEM Brute Force or WeaponR secret weapon intake kit.  I would also like to run a safari snorkel for light water crossing/trail dust.  I imagine that having the intake near the roof line would act as a ram air intake and force a lot of cold air into the throttle.  I would hate to have an intake exposed like the airraid is right were it can get wet.  Anyone else running a snorkel?  Noticed any HP changes?  I plan on using a K&N filter, but could the snorkel be modified to accept intake kits such as the air raid or AEM?  I kinda like the looks and functionallity of the snorkel versus the small hp gains of an intake.  Seems step one in engine mods is getting the coldest and cleanest air into the throttle, at the same time I could keep water out.  Any thoughts?

There is no reason to have a snorkel adapted to a ram intake.  You would need to seal off the open element which would defeat the whole purpose of the ram.

The only kit I know if that replaces the stock box and such is the Volant Snorkel.  The only problem is that the kit is only for the 4.0L.  So some modifications would be required to make work.  It's also only available for the TJ.  They use a rechargeable filter of their own.

(http://www.carolinaclassictrucks.com/merchant2/graphics/00000001/engine/volant/volantsnorkel.jpg)

The Safari ARB snorkel kit reuses the stock airbox unlike the Volant Snorkel so it works with both 2.5L and 4.0L's.  If you're set on using the K&N then drop it into the stock airbox.

(http://www.davesport.com/davesport/images/items/ss1000.gif)

Another option would be to make your own.  I've seen some really ugly setups as well as some nice ones.

This has potential for a custom snorkel:

(http://kandn.com/images/l/RC-5052AB.jpg)
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: cmgorman94 on September 21, 2007, 08:31:18 PM
I had an intake on my jeep.  I eventually wised up and put on a snorkel with the K&N drop in and felt no power difference between the snorkel and intake.  My vote, without a doubt is go for the snorkel.  It's not that fun clearing water and mud from your intake and cylinders.  That's just me though. 
Chad
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Oilsmoke on September 23, 2007, 10:18:09 AM
Jeffy Could you tell me more about that K&N setup I'm thinking I need one  Url or a Part # would help me out thanks.
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Oilsmoke on September 23, 2007, 10:58:55 AM
Edit Last Post.

I found it

RC-5052AB  Cost 115.89  Free shipping

Birthday Gift will be on order soon.
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Jeffy on September 23, 2007, 12:29:45 PM
Yeah the part number is in the pict name.  It does look interesting though doesn't it?  It's designed to be a cold-air intake but since the hose is universal, it could be used as a snorkel.  Hell, if you're cheap or don't want to cut you could pop the hood open and stretch the end out to the top.    Or else cut a hole in the hood like on the CJ's and just pull the hose out when you need to.
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: chardrc on September 23, 2007, 02:16:44 PM
why in the pic for the safari snorkel does it show you bolting a bracket onto the battery holder bracket when thats on the opposite side of the jeep :puzzled:
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Kelso on September 23, 2007, 06:17:28 PM
I saw these the other week.

They may be a little more pricey but they appear to be a little more sturdy than plastic versions from everyone else.

Something else to keep in mind when shopping for a snorkel.

Mike
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Kelso on September 23, 2007, 06:18:10 PM
forgot the link.

http://riverraider.com/
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Kelso on September 24, 2007, 02:55:50 PM
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/nacho2059/078-B.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/nacho2059/026-B.jpg)
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: chrisfranklin on September 24, 2007, 04:22:00 PM
That river raid snorkel looks nice and am sure it is well made.  But you have to wonder if a "plastic" snorkel might shrug off knocks that might wreck a metal one.   What do you all think?
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Jeffy on September 24, 2007, 04:39:36 PM
That river raid snorkel looks nice and am sure it is well made.  But you have to wonder if a "plastic" snorkel might shrug off knocks that might wreck a metal one.   What do you all think?

I like the plastic ones.  :bandit:
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: aw12345 on September 24, 2007, 06:00:52 PM
The aluminum one is fugly
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Oilsmoke on September 24, 2007, 06:12:44 PM
I Agree with the last three Post.
40 Years ago Plastic was Cheap and a Catch all for That cheap shit stuff.
But todays Plastic & composites  are Tougher & stronger that the Stuff of the era.
All hail NASA.  :rant:
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: chardrc on September 24, 2007, 07:56:02 PM
although the aluminum one that isn't painted looks ugly id rather have that and paint it and have plastic. i could see the plastic getting hit and cracking / shattering where metal would dent and cave which could be pounded out. its a jeep... not all about looks
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Mozman68 on September 25, 2007, 09:04:32 AM
I'd rather take my chances with plastic (which pops out on its own most of the time) than having to deal with all of the little dings or dents that would happen with the aluminum....so you're going to reach 3 feet down into a tiny opening and knock out a dent??  Me thinks not... :stick:
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: cmgorman94 on September 27, 2007, 04:48:49 PM
I was about to ask exactly how you'd beat out that dent, but mozman covered it fairly well.
Title: Re: Safari Snorkel vs Airraid intake
Post by: Jeffy on September 27, 2007, 07:47:04 PM
Keep in mind that aluminum can tear as well.