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Title: Blew something up
Post by: oldjeep on October 01, 2007, 05:10:54 AM
Took the YJ out for it's first trail ride and blew something up.  I was going up a narrow chute with the RPM's up fairly high, heard a big clunk and then the engine died.  Seems like either the flexplate or the crankshaft broke.   Planning a trip back over to Wisconsin to pick it up today so I can figure out what I did to it.
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: neale_rs on October 01, 2007, 08:49:34 AM
That sucks.  I hope it doesn't come out too expensive to fix.
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: jeepheap on October 01, 2007, 05:48:22 PM
i feel your pain. finally got to go off roading in the heap the other day and blew a tire. then my lug wrench broke on the second lug nut of taking off the spare. couldn't even put the flatty back on. had to wait for almost three hours for someone i know whop's rig could get where i was. he even hit me up for gas $!!! oh well...

hope it ain't too broke.
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: dexetr30 on October 01, 2007, 05:59:23 PM
I hope it's not your crank. A flex plate is easier and cheaper to replace. Let us know what you find.
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: oldjeep on October 01, 2007, 07:10:09 PM
WOn't find out until tommorrow.  I was going to tow dolly it home with my wifes car but the tires are too big.  So I borrowed a 1 ton and a trailer for tommorrows trip
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: aw12345 on October 01, 2007, 07:32:19 PM
Big time bummer, if the engine gave maybe time for a 4.3 v6? nice short engine might work fine with where you placed the engine and trans
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: oldjeep on October 01, 2007, 09:01:33 PM
Big time bummer, if the engine gave maybe time for a 4.3 v6? nice short engine might work fine with where you placed the engine and trans

4.3 is a 90 degree v6, won't work with the AW4.  A 3800 is a 60 degree though, and so is the Northstar, shortstar, etc.   I've had a thought of a supercharged 3800, plenty around. But for now I'm hoping for a cheap fix.
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: oldjeep on October 03, 2007, 07:29:51 PM
Best possible outcome, just a busted flexplate.

(http://www.oldjeep.com/images/YJ/bustedflexplate.JPG)
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: Jeffy on October 03, 2007, 07:48:12 PM
Ouch!  At least it's not $$$$.
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: aw12345 on October 07, 2007, 05:15:39 PM
Lucky you. It didn't squeek or tunk for a bit? They generally make some noise before they completely let go, but then its hard to hear over the tire sing song
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: oldjeep on October 12, 2007, 07:53:41 AM
Took it all apart last night.  I think I'm going to try to modify a cherokee flexplate this time since they don't have all the speed holes ;)
(http://www.oldjeep.com/images/YJ/PA120034.JPG)
(http://www.oldjeep.com/images/YJ/PA120035.JPG)


Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: lanulos89 on October 12, 2007, 05:33:09 PM
jebus christ
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: aw12345 on October 12, 2007, 05:42:45 PM
It tore that thing up pretty good, one with a bit more meat should help also were the holes you drilled centerd to the center line of the flex plate. The all powerfull 4 banger should not really tear that flex plate up so easily. Flexplates crack and rip but it is relatively uncommon
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: oldjeep on October 12, 2007, 06:02:52 PM
It tore that thing up pretty good, one with a bit more meat should help also were the holes you drilled centerd to the center line of the flex plate. The all powerfull 4 banger should not really tear that flex plate up so easily. Flexplates crack and rip but it is relatively uncommon

The holes were drilled on a CNC Mill by a friend of mine, they were perfect. 

Pictures of the milling - http://www.jnutter.com/page4.html
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: aw12345 on October 13, 2007, 06:51:49 AM
That would definitely be the way to do it, and the hub on the torque converter is a snug fit in the crank?
of nothing binds it has to be one torque producing 2.5 ;)
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: oldjeep on October 13, 2007, 07:28:32 AM
That would definitely be the way to do it, and the hub on the torque converter is a snug fit in the crank?
of nothing binds it has to be one torque producing 2.5 ;)

Nope, and that was probabally the cause.  I've located a cherokee 2.5L crank bushing and I'm looking into what I need to do to get it to fit.
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: oldjeep on November 04, 2007, 03:29:01 PM
Month later finally got it back together, and it's running good.  Only small problem is that the starter is taking a couple seconds to disenguage - figure that I boogered it up trepeatedly trying to start the jeep after the flexplate let go.
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: Jeffy on November 04, 2007, 04:38:06 PM
Month later finally got it back together, and it's running good.  Only small problem is that the starter is taking a couple seconds to disenguage - figure that I boogered it up trepeatedly trying to start the jeep after the flexplate let go.

Bendex don't wanting to release?
Title: Re: Blew something up
Post by: oldjeep on November 04, 2007, 04:41:35 PM
Month later finally got it back together, and it's running good.  Only small problem is that the starter is taking a couple seconds to disenguage - figure that I boogered it up trepeatedly trying to start the jeep after the flexplate let go.

Bendex don't wanting to release?

Might be, or I may have messed up the teeth on the starter gear.  It worked fine before the blow up,  I'll have to pull it back off when I get time and see if anything looks out of the ordinary.  Looks like a rebuilt one is only $65 so I may just pick one up and swap it.