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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: 95yj4 on October 29, 2007, 03:18:47 PM
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Alright so I talked to a guy the other day and he said he had some 33" tires that he was lookin to get rid of. $600 for all four tires with rims. Come to find out they r 33"x14.5" R15 Mickey T's prettty much new. Still had 25% of the knubs on it. I told him that I would have to think about it cause of my axle. Come to find out his brother has a dana 35, rebuilt, with 4.56 gears and I believe he said auburn posie??? to sell for cheap. Now I'm wondering will this combo work or will it still turn the other axle into a grenade??? I know the 4.56 gear is kinda small but its a lot better then stock. Forgot to mention that I have an auto.
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I'd be a little concerned about running tires that wide on a D35. Your gears are not the weak spot, the shafts and c-clips are. The other thing to keep in mind is if you have the clearance to move a 14.5" wide tire around in the wheel wells. Using a tire that wide is going to require wheel spacers or rims with very little offset - both will put a strain on the axles and bearings.
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yeah thats what I was thinkin, just wanted to get some other opinions. Oh and I was wrong, I think he said 12.5 wide. But anyways I was really loookin at the axle more then the tires. Does anyone think that the posie (If I'm correct on that) would tear up the axle with say 32"x10.5"?
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Lockers don't snap D35's. Side loading of the c-clips does. Should be OK with 32" tires on a D35, posi or not.
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Lockers don't snap D35's. Side loading of the c-clips does. Should be OK with 32" tires on a D35, posi or not.
What is side loading in this context? Like on a side hill?
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What is side loading in this context? Like on a side hill?
Side loading is off camber driving... or as you put it "on a side hill." lol.
Like this:
(http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/retjlift00/offcamber.jpg)
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well I really dont do too much trailin, mainly cause its my DD. Even if I do its usually nothin like that.
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600 for 33's and rims used really isnt that great of a deal IMO
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well I dont think its that bad cause like I said they're practically brand new. But yeah I really dont think I'm gonna get em anyway.
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my bad didnt see that i saw 25% life left on them
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600 for 33's and rims used really isnt that great of a deal IMO
So lets see...
$15-50 Steel Wheels = $60-200
So that's $400-530 / 4 = 100-132.50 per tire
Since they are so wide, I suspect they are Bias Belted. I guess it's a deal IF you really like those tires and that size.
25% of the NUBS does not mean there are 25% left. Nubs aren't even a part of the tread and usually fall off quickly. Sounds like there are less then 200 miles on them.
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yea i realize that thanks just didnt see it when i read it over at first
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Lockers don't snap D35's. Side loading of the c-clips does. Should be OK with 32" tires on a D35, posi or not.
I say you're full of it. :crap:
I have yet to see a D35 that snapped at the C-clip. Everyone says that's a weak point but every one I saw that snapped was where the splines met the solid surface of the shaft. Had nothing to do with the clips.
This is where they break, almost always caused by lifting a tire when locked and catching traction under throttle.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/OffCamberTJ/junk/PA140172.jpg)
Don't believe me? Do a search on google images or photobucket for "dana 35" or "d35 shaft" look at where they break. no splines in any of the pics.....
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The D35 breaks that I have seen in person were all axle ejections from the "button" on the end of the shaft snapping off.
Lockers don't snap D35's. Side loading of the c-clips does. Should be OK with 32" tires on a D35, posi or not.
I say you're full of it. :crap:
I have yet to see a D35 that snapped at the C-clip. Everyone says that's a weak point but every one I saw that snapped was where the splines met the solid surface of the shaft. Had nothing to do with the clips.
This is where they break, almost always caused by lifting a tire when locked and catching traction under throttle.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/OffCamberTJ/junk/PA140172.jpg)
Don't believe me? Do a search on google images or photobucket for "dana 35" or "d35 shaft" look at where they break. no splines in any of the pics.....
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Sounds like they break both ways, it is just a weak axle design.
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I say you're full of it. :crap:
I have yet to see a D35 that snapped at the C-clip. Everyone says that's a weak point but every one I saw that snapped was where the splines met the solid surface of the shaft. Had nothing to do with the clips.
This is where they break, almost always caused by lifting a tire when locked and catching traction under throttle.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/OffCamberTJ/junk/PA140172.jpg)
Don't believe me? Do a search on google images or photobucket for "dana 35" or "d35 shaft" look at where they break. no splines in any of the pics.....
All of the D35c shafts I've seen broken are at that exact same point. It's the not C-clip but rather the shaft where it tapers down to 27 spline. And I do agree that it's lifting a tire then giving it the throttle then is the cause. When the tire comes back down it hooks up and snaps. My friend happened to be running 33's and an EZ.
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I wouldn't lock a c-clip axle even with a lunch box locker. Had a buddy in the club runnin 33's, he did really good never broke nothing. The first run he went on after he put a lock right in he busted an axle!! Had to strap a small log to the jeep to keep the wheel in while he limped back to the trailer! I run 35-13.5's with an open rear and have no problems but I won't lock it up till I get my 8.8 built!!
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I run 35-13.5's with an open rear and have no problems but I won't lock it up till I get my 8.8 built!!
The 8.8 is a c-clip axle too!!!!! :pot:
Mike
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I run 35-13.5's with an open rear and have no problems but I won't lock it up till I get my 8.8 built!!
The 8.8 is a c-clip axle too!!!!! :pot:
Mike
Yeah but the axle shafts are 1.31" rather then 1.13" so the axles aren't as weak. Then you got the discs which help hold the shafts in place if they do go. Although by that time you might have an axle tube rotate. :lol:
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Also 31 spline axles. So,two things. 1. Do you have enough horse power to rolling resistance to break a 31 spline axle?
2. Superior makes a c-clip eliminator kit to remidy #1.
For about $1200 you can have dana 60 strength with no major mods and still run factory bolt pattern.
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You have more than just shafts to worry about on the D35. With 30" tires - I had pinion problems... ended up wallowing out the races. The ring gear itself is small and the housing itself is weak in the D35 as well.
C clips in and of themselves are not a problem... a weak a$$ axle is ~ c-clip or no.
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I agree!!
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...and the carrier. This is from our club's last outing. The chick that drives this rig has a very heavy foot. Shafts are fine. No way I'd put a lunchbox in this.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/CLFsPics/Untitled-4.jpg)
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Hers's the 35 I was refering to!
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