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Title: PTO Winch
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2007, 07:25:31 AM
where to get the pto drives that go on the tranny? a buddy told me they aren't produced anymore, but I don't buy it. someone out there must know where to get pto drives in the aftermarket world. i'm specifically looking for one for my 80's sm465.
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: dexetr30 on November 16, 2007, 03:47:52 PM
I have never heard of a PTO unit being produced in the after market for TJ's or YJ's. Wranglers aren't used very often as a utility/work vehicle that often anymore for there to be a demand for such a thing. I could be wrong but I don't think they exist.
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: oldjeep on November 16, 2007, 04:02:50 PM
Depends - what kind of tranny do you have.   If you have one with a standard 6 bolt spicer pto port then they are easy to find.  Most light duty transmissions do not have provision for a pto.  But transmissions like NV5400 T18 do.
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: oldjeep on November 16, 2007, 04:04:17 PM
Oops, didn't notice you stated SM465.  That will ahve a port for a 6 bolt spicer pto.  Tow truck supply places are one place to find them.
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: oldjeep on November 16, 2007, 04:10:46 PM
Few on ebay, you would have to cross ref the part numbers with the manufacturer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chelsea-Hydraulic-PTO-Power-Take-Off-for-Dump-Box_W0QQitemZ180178985950QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180178985950
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GEAR-DRIVEN-POWER-TAKE-OFF-PTO-VERY-GOOD-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ330187587035QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330187587035
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chelsea-Power-Take-Off-form-a-FORD-Truck-PTO_W0QQitemZ330188849104QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330188849104

Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2007, 01:33:50 PM
thanks a lot chuck...i never thought about tow truck places
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2007, 01:40:46 PM
I have never heard of a PTO unit being produced in the after market for TJ's or YJ's. Wranglers aren't used very often as a utility/work vehicle that often anymore for there to be a demand for such a thing. I could be wrong but I don't think they exist.

i know my rating is "newbie" but i've been 4wheeling 7 years and building jeeps for 4. not trying to start anything...but at least read my intro and give me a little credit. i realize ax-5s, ax-15s, aw4s, ect. don't have pto ports on the side! i'm talking about a pto for an sm465.
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: dexetr30 on November 17, 2007, 03:42:33 PM
I have never heard of a PTO unit being produced in the after market for TJ's or YJ's. Wranglers aren't used very often as a utility/work vehicle that often anymore for there to be a demand for such a thing. I could be wrong but I don't think they exist.

i know my rating is "newbie" but i've been 4wheeling 7 years and building jeeps for 4. not trying to start anything...but at least read my intro and give me a little credit. i realize ax-5s, ax-15s, aw4s, ect. don't have pto ports on the side! i'm talking about a pto for an sm465.

 :bow:
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: dexetr30 on November 17, 2007, 03:49:21 PM
I was just relaying what I knew. Not reading your intro I had no idea what you were working with.  :confused:  :blbl:
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: Jeffy on November 17, 2007, 06:52:04 PM
I'm not sure if anyone makes new PTO drive units.  Most of the tow trucks I've seen use electric winches these days.

I believe Ramsey still makes PTO's though.  Their 8000lbs PTO was an awesome winch for it's time.  Hell, I wouldn't mind running one today.  So Ramsey's website might be worth checking into.  They were big on PTO's in the 70's and 80's.

http://www.ramsey.com/winches/industrial.html

Otherwise, go with ebay and maybe even POR.  You might get lucky.  I wish PTO's were more popular.  They're better then the hydraulic winches.  They do cost a lot more because of the necessary extra equipment.  Most PTO's drive off og the transmission.  Although a few drive off of the transfer case.  Those aren't as good since they eat up a lot of ground clearance.

Good luck!
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: chardrc on November 17, 2007, 07:01:10 PM
you also may try a dump truck supply place. my boss has 2 ptos on his dump tuck one for lifting the bed and one for the crane on it.
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: oldjeep on November 17, 2007, 08:01:43 PM
Chelsea still makes plenty of them. 
http://www.parker.com/catalogs/catalog.asp?nav=1&type=2&id=449
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: oldjeep on November 17, 2007, 08:03:42 PM
As does Muncie:
http://www.munciepower.com/Products/PowerTakeOffs/index.html
Or talk to these guys:
http://www.potterwebster.com/PTO.htm
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2007, 10:01:24 PM
thanks guys, i have to go work on my other truck (humvee.) when i get back i'll check out those links
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2007, 10:05:25 PM
I was just relaying what I knew. Not reading your intro I had no idea what you were working with.  :confused:  :blbl:

by not reading my introduction to the forum you insulted my intelligence, from not reading the post you insulted your own.  :guns:
Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: dexetr30 on November 18, 2007, 07:29:35 AM
Well, I was willing to make nice but now... Not so much. I don't know you so I'm not concerned with your intelligence. You seem pretty knowledgeable as far as you mechanical skills and your Jeep, I'll give you that. As far as my own intelligence goes... that was never compromised. What I said was "I could be wrong but I don't think they exist." This wasn't based on intelligence, it was based on knowledge (Two different things). And I'll admit, I don't know much about PTO's which is why I said "I could be wrong." You should have read that part a little better and taken it into consideration before making your comments.

Title: Re: PTO Winch
Post by: oldjeep on November 18, 2007, 07:34:27 AM
Well, I was willing to make nice but now... Not so much. I don't know you so I'm not concerned with your intelligence. You seem pretty knowledgeable as far as you mechanical skills and your Jeep, I'll give you that. As far as my own intelligence goes... that was never compromised. What I said was "I could be wrong but I don't think they exist." This wasn't based on intelligence, it was based on knowledge (Two different things). And I'll admit, I don't know much about PTO's which is why I said "I could be wrong." You should have read that part a little better and taken it into consideration before making your comments.



Give it up.  You didn't read the first post in the thread that stated he had an SM465 - I didn't read it close enough either.  That and there are a lot of folks who insist on responding to questions they have no clue about - and you're not the only one.