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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: ryanb on November 26, 2007, 06:58:16 PM
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well i finally saed up enough money to go and get some real trail tires suggestions on sizes or brands? how will it effect my gas milage and acceleration? any sugggestions for improvements?
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I'd go with BFG A/T's. You can't get them in 225/15 but you could step to 235/15's. I'm using them and haven't had any problems with them.
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I'd really consider 31x10.5R15 BFG KO AT's. These are considered the shortest tire for 3 and up trails. (Rating system 1-5) They will get you onto 80% of the trails out there and won't sap too much form the Jeep. With any change in tire size you'll have to recalibrate your speedometer (easy). You'll feel less torque with the larger tires since your effective gear ratio will change. Offroad, you'll notice little to no difference. Gas mileage shouldn't really change since you not lifting the Jeep and once the speedometer is recalibrate it will show the correct mileage. Uncorrected, you'll think you've lost 2-3MPG.
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Where are you? What kind of trails do you/want to run?
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+1 on the 31inch bfgs.
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I would go with a 30" x 9.5" BFG mud terrian or kumho MT, wrangler MTR or really any MT radial. In my humble opinion 30" tires take some of your 4 bangers performance away but the 31" tires make it a complete gas guzzling dog.
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Mickey Thompson MTZ. Great tire on and off the road at a good price Grips like an MT but doesn't sound like a B52 going down the highway.
BFG AT are nice on the road, but completely useless for most offroad terrains. Weak sidewalls, if you spend any time in sharp rock they will be toast (I had a set for a couple years and took sidewalls out of 3 tires).
Goodyear MTR - great tire at a high price
The newest BFG MT looks promising
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Since you are on a budget, there may be a cheap way to get a set of 31" tires and nice rims. 2006 and older rubicon rims and tires are a nice swap. The tires are about 31" tall MTR's on 16" alloy rims. I've got a set on my kids Comanche. There always seem to be quite a few up for sale locally as the Rubicon guys go to bigger tires and different wheels. You can get a set of 4 for $300 + around here. Just make sure they are from a TJ rubicon and not the newer JK Rubicons (they have a different bolt pattern)
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Since you are on a budget, there may be a cheap way to get a set of 31" tires and nice rims. 2006 and older rubicon rims and tires are a nice swap. The tires are about 31" tall MTR's on 16" alloy rims. I've got a set on my kids Comanche. There always seem to be quite a few up for sale locally as the Rubicon guys go to bigger tires and different wheels. You can get a set of 4 for $300 + around here. Just make sure they are from a TJ rubicon and not the newer JK Rubicons (they have a different bolt pattern)
Rubicon MT/R's are HEAVY tires. They are E class instead of C class. The combo is nice but then you have a tire that weights as much as my 35's. :stick:
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Mickey Thompson MTZ. Great tire on and off the road at a good price Grips like an MT but doesn't sound like a B52 going down the highway.
BFG AT are nice on the road, but completely useless for most offroad terrains. Weak sidewalls, if you spend any time in sharp rock they will be toast (I had a set for a couple years and took sidewalls out of 3 tires).
Goodyear MTR - great tire at a high price
The newest BFG MT looks promising
Whoever you buy your tires from be sure to get road hazard. I like American Tires, with their pro-rate, I can replace my tires for $20 each.
The Goodyear MT/R's are probably the best 50/50 tires out there that don't compromise much of anything. Only problem is that they are expensive.
The new BFG's look great as well BUT they only come in limited sizes and are more expensive then the MT/R's. :'(
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Since you are on a budget, there may be a cheap way to get a set of 31" tires and nice rims. 2006 and older rubicon rims and tires are a nice swap. The tires are about 31" tall MTR's on 16" alloy rims. I've got a set on my kids Comanche. There always seem to be quite a few up for sale locally as the Rubicon guys go to bigger tires and different wheels. You can get a set of 4 for $300 + around here. Just make sure they are from a TJ rubicon and not the newer JK Rubicons (they have a different bolt pattern)
Rubicon MT/R's are HEAVY tires. They are E class instead of C class. The combo is nice but then you have a tire that weights as much as my 35's. :stick:
50 lbs for a 245/75/16 E MTR vs 50 lbs for a 245/75/16 BFG AT
If you want to compare a 31x10.5x15 size, then the BFG AT is 43 lbs and the MTR is 46 lbs
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I say get a set of 31x11.50x15 LTB's nothing beats a swamper offroad, and after all it's a Jeep who cares about on road use. lol
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30x9.5 Dunlop Mud Rovers... @ Sam's club. Cheap and light -
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i169/mighty4banger/d6757e4c.jpg)
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Cooper Discoverer STT. They have worked very well for me off road and on. Here is a link:
http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/ProductDetails.asp?ProdType=LtTruck&id=271&title=Light+Truck+Tires
The siping makes then better than most mud tires on wet pavement which is a real issue here where I live due to the strange asphalt used locally.
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Guess more detail is needed here...
I had ZERO traction issues with the mud rovers. They were soft enought that on the road they were tacky and stuck well - even in the rain. My 4 banger on 30's was able to hang with the 6's on the way to the trail.
36lbs a tire per tire rack. You can't go wrong with these.
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thanks for all of your inputs.. i am leaning toward 31x11.50 super swamper ltb's as of right now and i hav found a good deal on a brand new set of 4 and will most likely purchase them this weeeknd once again thanks for the advice i appreciate it
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thanks for all of your inputs.. i am leaning toward 31x11.50 super swamper ltb's as of right now and i hav found a good deal on a brand new set of 4 and will most likely purchase them this weeeknd once again thanks for the advice i appreciate it
Just to let you know if you drive your jeep on the street alot those tires wont last long as they are bias ply and super soft. I only got 10k out of my old 31 x 11.5 x R15 super swampers. If you do very little street driving they are a great choice.
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If you drive on the street, I have also heard those tires are pretty noisy... Not a problem if you know it in advanced and dont mind, but just something to keep in mind. By the way, I have read this; I have never owned swampers, so I have no personal experience with them...
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The LTB's are a noisy tire, I have them on my YJ, with a hole in the exhaust in the down pipe, and no top I can still here my tires at 55mph going down the road.
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The LTB's are a noisy tire, I have them on my YJ, with a hole in the exhaust in the down pipe, and no top I can still here my tires at 55mph going down the road.
Noisy and like to go square if you live in a colder climate. Nothing like waiting for a bias tire to decide to get round first thing every morning.
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They also weight more and you will feel the power loss...