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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: Jeffy on February 28, 2008, 04:30:24 PM
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1959 Austin Gipsy, very rare, 4x4,4 wheel independant suspension, British vehicle, runs and drives ,needs restoration,some rust,
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/586572965.html
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Very cool, if it were in MN I would buy it in a second
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Looks like a cross between a land rover and CJ heh
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Looks like a cross between a land rover and CJ heh
Wasn't the Land Rover just a Brit. ripoff of the CJ at first?
If i remember my auto history correct.
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Wasn't the Land Rover just a Brit. ripoff of the CJ at first?
If i remember my auto history correct.
I think so, I don't know though
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Wasn't the Land Rover just a Brit. ripoff of the CJ at first?
If i remember my auto history correct.
Yes and no. The first Land Rover was built on top of a MB's running gear.
As for the Austin Gipsy, it's small, really small. Think Sami and then think smaller.
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i wouldn't buy it... then again we do have 3 flat fender cjs in our family so we have the old jeep thing pretty well covered.
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i wouldn't buy it... then again we do have 3 flat fender cjs in our family so we have the old jeep thing pretty well covered.
It's not a Jeep.
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Cool to look at but it must be really hard to maintain these days.
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Cool to look at but it must be really hard to maintain these days.
I suspect that the drivetrain is mostly austin car stuff. The british car companies used the same motors and trannies in everything. I've had a couple midgets and 2 spitfires, and the parts are suprisingly easy to find.
Makes me wonder what they used for a transfercase though.
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It is amazing how easy it is to keep an MB/GPW going even now after more than 60 years. Maybe it wouldn't be too bad with this Austin...
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Kudos to Jeff for knowing your Jeep history :clap:, Land Rover did use an entire Jeep chasis for its first prototype. One thing I do wish Jeeps came with was Aluminum tub's, if they did they would outlive humans haha.
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or if they at least hadn't have used wood for braces in the body of the old jeeps :whistle:. all the worst body rust spots on the early cjs are where they had some wood which holds the moisture and rots them out.
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Yes, and the same goes for the MB and GPW. Even in Arizona, they rot out right along the wood filled "hat channels".
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years ago my grandfather (who lived in the Appalachian Mountains) purchased a Land Rover that had previously been used for Safari excursions in Africa. i'm pretty sure this is the model:
(http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/images/landrover.jpg)
i was infatuated with that thing when i was a kid. he took us on a few hair-raising mountain rides in it....and i mean FRIGHTENING vertical climbs (many of which where tilted/off axis). that thing never failed. i think one of my cousins has it now and no doubt it is a financial beast to maintain. that old Rover is probably the root of my love for Jeeps. cheers.
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years ago my grandfather (who lived in the Appalachian Mountains) purchased a Land Rover that had previously been used for Safari excursions in Africa. i'm pretty sure this is the model:
(http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/images/landrover.jpg)
i was infatuated with that thing when i was a kid. he took us on a few hair-raising mountain rides in it....and i mean FRIGHTENING vertical climbs (many of which where tilted/off axis). that thing never failed. i think one of my cousins has it now and no doubt it is a financial beast to maintain. that old Rover is probably the root of my love for Jeeps. cheers.
That seems like a bad place to mount a tire. Some little kiddie could be hunched over trying to grab his runaway soccer ball and the driver wouldn't even see him coming. Then the car gets all messy. silly brits.
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I think they have a better chance of running over a lion..... :beers:
Ace Ventura II was on this weekend and they had a ton of those Rovers...I just love the grill set back like that.
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I've always liked defenders as well... They just scream out SAFARI!
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interesting defender fact, you could remove the grills to actually grill on and the windshield wipers had a manual back-up lever. great offroaders. stuff of legend.
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interesting defender fact, you could remove the grills to actually grill on and the windshield wipers had a manual back-up lever. great offroaders. stuff of legend.
You haven't been in a old Jeep, I take it? :lol: The early GPW, MB's MA's did not have wiper motors. The passenger was the one in charge of the crank. (This is also why the windshield flips up.) On later flat fenders, they had a a vacuum motor that controlled the driver side wiper. The passenger was still forced to use the crank. They're used to be aftermarket retrofits so the passenger side was automatic as well.
Also, on all of the military Jeeps, you could flip the headlights into the engine compartment for light which was really cool.
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Also the generator bracket was made so you could pull it up to quickly loosen the fan belt when doing water crossings to keep water of the sparkplugs without doing that those things would love to stall in the middle of a stream. Ask me how I know lol
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Also the generator bracket was made so you could pull it up to quickly loosen the fan belt when doing water crossings to keep water of the sparkplugs without doing that those things would love to stall in the middle of a stream. Ask me how I know lol
lol we've had that happen on multiple ocations.. new spark plug wires cap and a Gatorade bottle cap duck taped over the vent is out best solution.... what when all else fails they still seam top like to start right up when stalled out with water over the floor borders. those go-devil 4bangers never give up.
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The old Rovers are great. I spotted this about 2 years ago in the Philadelphia area in a Home Depot parking lot. I drooled over it for a while before getting some photos.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f194/dexter30/Misc/OceanCity003copy.jpg)
This shot is from the rear. You can see my TJ parked nose to nose in front of the Rover.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f194/dexter30/Misc/OceanCity004copy.jpg)
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Funny how this turned into a Land Rover thread. There's a Series II that I've seen for sale. The owner commutes to the local rail transit station. I've seen him around town for a few years but this is the first time he's put up the For Sale sign. I'm still holding out for a D110. :lol:
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camel trophy era range rovers are great too. as well as the 110s that carried their camera equipment and tools during the 20yrs or so the trophy traveled the world. i even liked the discos from that era as well. but the 2 favs would be the 94-97 D-90 and the early range rovers
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interesting defender fact, you could remove the grills to actually grill on and the windshield wipers had a manual back-up lever. great offroaders. stuff of legend.
yeah,...i DISTINCTLY remember manual levers on the inside of the windshield panel that you could use to move the wiper blades. also (if i recall correctly) the rear seats faced INWARD and folded up against the outer chassis when not used. the spare on the hood was hard to forget. i think the old bugger required engine priming (via a pushbutton) before starts on cold mornings. that Desert Sand/Tan paint job has always been my favorite color for any offroad vehicle......it just EMITS an aura of adventure. cheers.
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yeah,...i DISTINCTLY remember manual levers on the inside of the windshield panel that you could use to move the wiper blades. also (if i recall correctly) the rear seats faced INWARD and folded up against the outer chassis when not used. the spare on the hood was hard to forget. i think the old bugger required engine priming (via a pushbutton) before starts on cold mornings. that Desert Sand/Tan paint job has always been my favorite color for any offroad vehicle......it just EMITS an aura of adventure. cheers.
They wanted to crap 6 people in a vehicle that could really only hold 4. Toyota followed suit with their FJ's. I believe some exported Jeeps were also like this as well. The YJ-L was like a bus.
This is also the reason why the roof is raised in the back. Oh and the D110 could hold 9 if I remember right.
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They wanted to crap 6 people in a vehicle that could really only hold 4.
"Crap 6 people"?? Freudian slip, Jeff? just kidding. yeah, i've seen videos and pics of Safari Rovers (and Toyos) loaded to the gills with people, cameras, rifles, camping gear, etc. the tires (now that i've gotten used to looking at modern Jeep wheels) always looked woefully small. STILL,...i have fond memories of Gramp's little Land Rover and those off-cambered excurisions up the mountainsides (or are they nightmares). cheers!
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Small tires make for a more reliable vehicle, big tires make things break. When you are 100 miles into a desert or jungle reliability is more important than capability.