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I am looking into putting an electric fan on my jeep for my turbo set up and to free up some power till then, i found a 14" slim fan for 55 bucks shipped it pushes 1800 cfm is that sufficent to cool my little 4 banger?
thanks
John
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I am looking into putting an electric fan on my jeep for my turbo set up and to free up some power till then, i found a 14" slim fan for 55 bucks shipped it pushes 1800 cfm is that sufficent to cool my little 4 banger?
thanks
John
Kind of expensive for a 14" fan. I'd highly recommend a FoMoCo Taurus V6 16" or Lincoln MKVIII 4.8L MK18". Pulls enough air to be used with a V8.
Some of those generic fans out there are poorly made as well.
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Kind of expensive for a 14" fan. I'd highly recommend a FoMoCo Taurus V6 16" or Lincoln MKVIII 4.8L MK18". Pulls enough air to be used with a V8.
Some of those generic fans out there are poorly made as well.
Jeffy, you forgot to mention that they are also cheaper than the $55 they are asking him (mine was $28). And even in low speed, they pull enough air to cool down my 4-banger (to the point where the Thermostat needs to close every now and then!).
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What are the major benefits of the electric fan? And what will work in a 97 TJ and how hard are they to install and what other mods if any are needed!
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Benefits? Less parasitic drag since the fan isn't powered by the engine. Engine will rev quicker because of this. Maybe 5HP at the top end.
Not that big of a deal to install.
Here's mine: http://4bangerjp.com/forums/index.php?topic=3781.0
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The Taurus fan from most mid '90s 3.8L Ford cars is a nice 2-speed fan that fits the Wrangler radiators very well. I was able to use the 4 stock shroud holes to mount mine, one hole used a stock hole in the fan housing, drilled another hole in the fan housing below that, and used 2 small L brackets to mount the other side. Fit my radiator perfect but for a 1.5" gap at the bottom of the radiator, which is better to allow mud and water through the radiator.
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I did not know about the Ford fan mod at the time I did mine. I went with the Flex-a-lite fan it is a little expensive. The fan kit comes with fan, mounting brackets, wiring, fuse, and power steering relocation bracket. It took maybe a hour to install. It also has a thermostat control knob, so it can be adjusted to let the Jeep run warmer in winter and cooler in summer. The advantage to any electric fan is more power but also you get better cooling in heavy traffic, (Indianapolis traffic sucks) and for slow moving trail rides, rock crawling, or running sand dunes. You should also install a switch to kill the power to the fan if you do any water crossing, to prevent pulling the plastic fan into the radiator. http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?jeep-sid=51&plID=500&partID=6884
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Will the thermo controlled fan stay running after shutting off the Jeep? I had an Escort in high school that would do that, very annoying.
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Will the thermo controlled fan stay running after shutting off the Jeep? I had an Escort in high school that would do that, very annoying.
Don't you want it to do that?? I think it's kewl....let's people know you are hardkor enough to have one.... :guns: :guns:
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Will the thermo controlled fan stay running after shutting off the Jeep? I had an Escort in high school that would do that, very annoying.
You can set it up either way...
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I just got me a FoMoCo the other weekend, and the high speed on that thing def pulls some air through. I payed $25 I think at the u pull it yard for mine, but I am going to need to upgrade my alternator cause even on low with the lights and everything else on its whining now
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Will the thermo controlled fan stay running after shutting off the Jeep? I had an Escort in high school that would do that, very annoying.
Not unless you want to wire it that way. Personally, I have mine turn off when the key is off. No reason to have my battery drain more then necessary.
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Personally, I have mine turn off when the key is off. No reason to have my battery drain more then necessary.
I did the same thing; no sense cooling the radiator if the engine is gonna stay hot anyway (the water pump is not turning when the engine is off)!.
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I did not know about the Ford fan mod at the time I did mine. I went with the Flex-a-lite fan it is a little expensive. The fan kit comes with fan, mounting brackets, wiring, fuse, and power steering relocation bracket. It took maybe a hour to install. It also has a thermostat control knob, so it can be adjusted to let the Jeep run warmer in winter and cooler in summer. The advantage to any electric fan is more power but also you get better cooling in heavy traffic, (Indianapolis traffic sucks) and for slow moving trail rides, rock crawling, or running sand dunes. You should also install a switch to kill the power to the fan if you do any water crossing, to prevent pulling the plastic fan into the radiator. http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?jeep-sid=51&plID=500&partID=6884
I bought the same fan, havenīt installed it yet. Did you had any problems with the amount of amps it pulls using the stock alternator?
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I have had zero problems with the fan. I dont know how many amps it pulls but I drive alot at night and have never had a problem. I am running the stock alternator. The fan has been on my jeep for about three years now. I also have it wired so it runs after the Jeep is shut off. If someone gets under my hood , say at a mall parking lot, on a warm day they may very well lose a hand. :nono: :nono:
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I have had zero problems with the fan. I dont know how many amps it pulls but I drive alot at night and have never had a problem. I am running the stock alternator. The fan has been on my jeep for about three years now. I also have it wired so it runs after the Jeep is shut off. If someone gets under my hood , say at a mall parking lot, on a warm day they may very well lose a hand. :nono: :nono:
Thanks for the reply :thumb:
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I bought the same fan, havenīt installed it yet. Did you had any problems with the amount of amps it pulls using the stock alternator?
I used my Ford fan with the stock alternator almost all winter, and I drive with my stereo blasting, and my auxiliary lights (they used to be 100W fog lights at the time, but I now changed to 50W bulbs for city driving) on all the time without any ssues. I did later upgrade to a 160A alternator (164A I think it was).
Felipe
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I used my Ford fan with the stock alternator almost all winter, and I drive with my stereo blasting, and my auxiliary lights (they used to be 100W fog lights at the time, but I now changed to 50W bulbs for city driving) on all the time without any ssues. I did later upgrade to a 160A alternator (164A I think it was).
Felipe
Felipe...what alternator did you go with??
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Felipe...what alternator did you go with??
Load Boss from Alterstart... Found it on eBay. Comes with all the data from the test done to it. It was around 165A if I rememebr correctly
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I used my Ford fan with the stock alternator almost all winter, and I drive with my stereo blasting, and my auxiliary lights (they used to be 100W fog lights at the time, but I now changed to 50W bulbs for city driving) on all the time without any ssues. I did later upgrade to a 160A alternator (164A I think it was).
Felipe
Thanks for the reply :thumb: I also bought a set of auxiliary lights and was beginning to think i had to upgrade the alternator.
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Load Boss from Alterstart... Found it on eBay. Comes with all the data from the test done to it. It was around 165A if I rememebr correctly
Sounds like it's a standard Dakota Alternator. Those are 160A stock.
The one I bought had had no issues. It was custom rebuilt to give 170A. The 2-year warranty is nice as well.
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You guys are so lucky to have junkyards with useful stuff :'(
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You guys are so lucky to have junkyards with useful stuff :'(
Ebay can be your friend too...
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Ebay can be your friend too...
Itīs one of my best friends!!, iīve restored 5 cars thanks to him :clap: I still think finding stuff in the junkyard is a little more exciting :weee:, and there have been parts that i have been looking for years and never seen them on ebay.
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where did you all get your fans for 50 bucks thats a sweet deal
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where did you all get your fans for 50 bucks thats a sweet deal
I bought mine for $25 off ebay and had it shipped for under $50. It came with a relay and some wiring as well which was nice.
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i got 2 new 16 in s blade fans off ebay for 55 put one on my jeep and one on my v-8 s-10
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I got mine from the local Junk Yard for $28 complete with the plug and shroud...
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i wish there was some good junk yards around here.....everybody just hauls them off for scrap iron now
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i wish there was some good junk yards around here.....everybody just hauls them off for scrap iron now
Where are you from?
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Whitesburg Ky ....closesst ones i know of is londan ky....
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oh wow ya i found some how hard is it to install is all i need is basic ratchets and such
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I'm looking to go to a junkyard this weekend (I hope) and see what I can find!!!
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hope you found some stuff
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What temperature of fan thermostat switch would you recommend (200*-180*, 185*-170*, or an adjustable unit)?
My girl does not like having to keep an eye on the gauge, and flipping the switch.
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What temperature of fan thermostat switch would you recommend (200*-180*, 185*-170*, or an adjustable unit)?
My girl does not like having to keep an eye on the gauge, and flipping the switch.
Edit did not work for me.
The Jeep has a 180* Tstat in it now.
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I got a programable controller, but I keep it at 180* (actual radiator readong at the bottom of the radiator, which means after the cooling has taken effect) and it works fine keeping the Jeep at about 210* even on the hottest days (and I live in Miami, so it gets pretty hot down here!).
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Is the Tauras fan a good fit for an 87 mj?
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I was going to do the Taurus fan on my Dodge Ram . The FoMoCo fan pulls 3000+ CFM which is way more then you need on a 4 cyl Jeep.