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Title: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: stan98tj on October 22, 2008, 08:20:02 AM
so im cruising around on youtube and i stumble on this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfeBUdARbMU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfeBUdARbMU&feature=related)
it's one of many relating to this topic. this is the first ive heard of it and im calling foul...cant say i believe it....anyone else run into this subject? i thought to myself, if this thing really worked i can bet EVERY single person on this forum would have one installed esp with the mpg some of you have listed...low 13s like me, some even lower-i dont know who the hell is posting over 22
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: Tsd on October 22, 2008, 09:05:32 AM
On jeepforum.com several people wrote threads on hydrogen generators installed on their wrangler's,
Here are two "how to" threads:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=607815

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=607383

It looks pretty real to me. :wall:
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: stan98tj on October 22, 2008, 09:29:54 AM
yea, my ip is banned from there...strange, i never belonged to that forum...guess i cant read their review on this product. anyone on this forum try this out??
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: Bounty Hunter on October 22, 2008, 09:30:41 AM
There's a few local jeepers here that claim success with Hydrogen Generators.
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: oldjeep on October 22, 2008, 09:56:32 AM
On jeepforum.com several people wrote threads on hydrogen generators installed on their wrangler's,
Here are two "how to" threads:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=607815

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=607383

It looks pretty real to me. :wall:

LOL - if you read it you'll see that the guy disapeared pretty quick after his method of testing was called into question.   Kids build hydrogen strippers like that in high school science they create barely enough hydrogen to keep a candle sized flame going.
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: stan98tj on October 22, 2008, 10:08:05 AM
like i originally stated, if there was any truth to this at all im almost 100% sure that EVERYONE on this forum would have it installed by now...esp with the majority of us only getting 13-18mpg
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: neale_rs on October 22, 2008, 10:25:15 AM
Energy from the alternator and battery can be used to split the oxygen and hydrogen in water.  That much is real.  However, it takes more energy to split the water molecule than you will ever get back by burning the hydrogen (becomes water again).  Despite this unavoidable loss, a hydrogen generation scheme could still work if you use energy usually wasted by the Jeep (heat) to do the splitting.  Then the overall efficiency of the vehicle could improve.
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: Tsd on October 22, 2008, 10:30:53 AM
LOL - if you read it you'll see that the guy disapeared pretty quick after his method of testing was called into question.   Kids build hydrogen strippers like that in high school science they create barely enough hydrogen to keep a candle sized flame going.

Hadn't noticed it. May be he was assassinated by the big oil companies conspiration, or Hugo Chavez, or may be it was all a fraud.

Didn't the Mythbusters tested an hydrogen generator on an olds cutlass once?
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: oldjeep on October 22, 2008, 05:23:28 PM
Hadn't noticed it. May be he was assassinated by the big oil companies conspiration, or Hugo Chavez, or may be it was all a fraud.

Didn't the Mythbusters tested an hydrogen generator on an olds cutlass once?

Yes they did test it, but the attempted to run the car only off the hydrogen generator which had no chance of succeeding.
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: Mr_Random on October 22, 2008, 05:34:26 PM
Yes they did test it, but the attempted to run the car only off the hydrogen generator which had no chance of succeeding.

Yeah I was looking extensively into it for a while, and I would like to see a proper experiment being done by the mythbusters... I even outlined a method somewhere on JF on what exactly could be done to test it, but no one left any feedback...
Title: Re: water for gas??????? what?????
Post by: 95yj4 on November 04, 2008, 06:04:17 PM
For anyone who sayd u can run a car on a hydrogen convertor, they're retarded. Now if it was used to supplement your engine you can and from what i've seen a max to about 20-25% gain. I haven't actually seen anything higher. The only problem I see with them on a jeep is you need to take extra precautions with the set-up so u dont get a lot of water in the intake at one time.