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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: 95yjman on October 28, 2008, 02:15:08 PM
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I found a pretty sweet deal on some 33" super swampers. The problem is however I still have the dana 35 and 4:10 gears. I don't really have the money right now to regear. Should I stick with 31s right now and get my d44 ready to put under the Jeep or buy the 33s and run them with the D35 and be gentle while saving up some doe to regear and put the 44 under the Jeep.
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You're going to shoehorn 33's under there with only 1" lift?
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When I bought my Jeep, it came with 31's (still under the Jeep, by the way) with no lift and really sagged springs (bent upwards). The 31's would rub on any speed bump... I dont think 1" BL will clear 33's unless you dont go offroad. And I hear highway eats up the Super Swampers, so I dont know... I guess I would just stick to 31's. But keep in mind this comes from the guy who is still running street tires because they still got some meat left!
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I should probbely add that I have a 2" BDS kit that I will be putting on here soon so with that and my shackles and body lift I should have around 3.5" to 4" of lift. Plus I'll be adding some TJ flares. Ya I hear the swampers don't like the highway too and thats mostly what I travel :'(
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I should probbely add that I have a 2" BDS kit that I will be putting on here soon so with that and my shackles and body lift I should have around 3.5" to 4" of lift. Plus I'll be adding some TJ flares. Ya I hear the swampers don't like the highway too and thats mostly what I travel :'(
Well, with 3.5: total lift, the 33" should fit (keep in mind that 33" Swampers are like 35" regular MT), especially if you do a TJ flare conversion, you should be fine. But if highway is the main use, I would probably go in another direction... BFG MT or so. I hear they wear pretty good. Toyo's I have heard are good on pavement as well...
The down side of the swampers will be wear, noise, and wet pavement handling for the highway. Consider that, and if it is worth it to you, by all means, go for it.
But I got no experince with them, as my tires are still what came with the Jeep and will stay there until they wear out; then it's BFG MT KM2 for me (33").
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Well if the swampers come with rims run both sets keep the 31's for street use and run the 33's for offroad, that is where they really shine anyway
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Actually 33" SS's are more like 34" for most other brands. Also, keep in mind that Interco's are some if the ugliest built tires around. They have a lot of imperfections which is one of the reasons why they are hard to balance. I think if you're mostly driving on highways then that sort of makes the choice easy. Pass on them. Otherwise, but then as a second set of tires and swap between the two. As long as your open-diff you shouldn't have to worry about the D35 too much. You'll get stuck before you break it.
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How bad would a 33" tire bring the suck with my 4:10 gears?
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How bad would a 33" tire bring the suck with my 4:10 gears?
I think you will basically lose 5th... With 31's, I had to drop to 4th gear on the highway if I had any kind of head wind or if I was driving up any kind of hill (keep in mind I live in Miami, which is FLAT, so by hill, I mean highway overpass!). Also, getting started from a stand still will probably suck.
As Jeffy said, if you can have them as your "off road only tires", grab them, otehrwise, pass.
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How bad would a 33" tire bring the suck with my 4:10 gears?
When I was running 33's (BFG MT) with 4.10's I pretty much never ran 5th gear. I ran this way for 2 years before I went to 4.88's. I would imagine that the SS tire weighs more than a BFG so the power loss felt would be more.
If I were in your shoes I would use the money towards the D44. IMO it's better to upgrade your drivetrain before you upgrade tire size.
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alan i PMed you
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i would only run ss off road.. they are amazing off road but they get eaten up fast on road.
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Well, I think I may pass on them for now, they are a little wider then I want anyway. Money is a little tight, and like you guys said with my gearing and having to drive on the highway all the time it could be a pain. Thanks dudes 8)
alan i PMed you
Back at ya man :smile:
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Well, I think I may pass on them for now, they are a little wider then I want anyway. Money is a little tight, and like you guys said with my gearing and having to drive on the highway all the time it could be a pain. Thanks dudes 8)
Back at ya man :smile:
Now if you can find some BFG 33x9.5 AT's or 33x10.5MT's you'd be set... :stick:
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I run 32x11.50 BFG mt on mine with a 3.5" lift and 4.10 gears runs great down the highway
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Now if you can find some BFG 33x9.5 AT's or 33x10.5MT's you'd be set... :stick:
No ATs for me :ghey: I'll stick with a MT or some type of swamper :biggrin:
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I would wait and get some 33" BFG KM2s.
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I would wait and get some 33" BFG KM2s.
You know, I would have to say my BFG's have been a great tire to me. I've pretty much smashed the sidewalls up against rocks down at the badlands and they take it all. I'll have to price the KM2s, since all I have really done is got up close and looked at them...
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You know, I would have to say my BFG's have been a great tire to me. I've pretty much smashed the sidewalls up against rocks down at the badlands and they take it all. I'll have to price the KM2s, since all I have really done is got up close and looked at them...
Chaching! If you think MTR's are expensive forget about KM2's. If you're doing a lot of street driving BFG AT KO's aren't bad.
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Chaching! If you think MTR's are expensive forget about KM2's. If you're doing a lot of street driving BFG AT KO's aren't bad.
No way in heck am I putting BFG ATs on my Jeep, worst tire ever in the mud...There good in sand and snow and like you said a good street tire. My next set of tires will either be some type of BFG mud terrain or super swampers.
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I got the 35x12.50 MT/Rs and they work great, You should just skip the 33's and go straight to 35's :pot: I kinda wish I woulda gone 37's but oh well
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I got the 35x12.50 MT/Rs and they work great, You should just skip the 33's and go straight to 35's :pot: I kinda wish I woulda gone 37's but oh well
I would want the D44 in before I go up to 35s heh
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I already got a custom 44 from Currie, I'm looking at ordering the front 44 next summer
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i would stick with some aggressive 31s and a 2 inch lift or at most 32s if this is gonna be ur daily driver. super swampers as mentioned by others here will surely be a waste of money if ur using this jeep as a DD and esp if your daily drive requires highway use. Plus they'll kill ur mpg. of course it is your rig and you should do whatever the hell makes ya happy-but if ur lookin for an opinion i would lift a few inches first and stick with the 31s or at most get a set of 32s
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Just priced some KM2s, looks like I can get 4 for around 800 bucks and thats without the discount I get for workin there heh :biggrin:
When I bought my 31s I got now I got four of them for a little under 400 bucks...brand new
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Just priced some KM2s, looks like I can get 4 for around 800 bucks and thats without the discount I get for workin there heh :biggrin:
When I bought my 31s I got now I got four of them for a little under 400 bucks...brand new
We REALLY need to talk business... How about I get the Sony employee discount and get you a kick-@$$ audio system, and you your YOUR employee discount and get me a set of 5 KM2's? :dance:
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To start with what Swampers are you looking at? The trux's line are some good tires, for street use and wheeling, from what I've seen and run I would run them before BFG's on rig that see's allot of highway use. Now if your looking at Boogers, LTB's, SX's, or Bias TSL's, then you will be giving up allot of street use for off highway performance, and I would pass if your Jeep see's mostly highway miles, unless like others have said you have 2 sets of tires and swap them out.
As for running 33's w/ 4.10's it's not that big of a deal, it will remind you that your Jeep is a off road vehicle and not a sports car, but I ran 2 years with 34" LTBs with 4.10's and as long as I remembered to keep the pace down a little, and shift down more often it wasn't bad and my milage didn't suffer too bad. I also have a buddy who used to run 33" MT's on his 4 banger w/ 4.10's and he actually got better milage then stock as long as he remembered to drive it appropriately, and not try to drive like an ass. I know my Jeep would have done better but my motor was a little past the beat and tired stage of things and only had about half the ower it did stock so I had to be a little more aggresive with my driving to keep it moving.
Also don't be affraid of the d35 with 33's, my buddy has a TJ that he beats on off-road, thats running a lunch box locker on 33's w/ a 4.0l and in 5 years has only ever broke one set of stock shafts, and that happend while trying to drag another Jeep up a hill out of creek missing the front wheel from broken ball joints in a foot of snow. (boy does that sound like a BS story)
But of course like with anything else with Jeeps, for every opinion there is 3 more and this is all just my opinion so take it for what it's worth.
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I'm running 35's with 4.10 gearing and its not to bad on the street for what little street driving I do, I think I top out at about 60-65, When I was living at Ball State and driving to the northside of Indy everyday for work I had the 33's and 4.10's and I think i got about 11-12 mpg on the highway. I use to have the Swamper SSR's in a 33 also and I only got about 15,000 miles out of them but they were a good offroad tire. I would do like some of the other guys are saying and get the 33's and use them as wheeling tires and keep the 31's for the street