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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: murphyslaw on February 23, 2009, 08:40:33 PM
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I'm new to this forum but I'm not new to jeeps. I just bought a 97 tj for a good price that I couldn't pass up. But today I was tinkering around under the hood and I came upon this sticker. I looked all over this forum but I couldn't find the answers I was looking for and the local jeep dealership had never heard of it and told me it wasn't possible.
Here is what the sticker said.
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AUTHORIZED MODIFICATIONS
THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE
Reprogramed PCM To P1# 05010404AA
Change authority dealer code date
13-31-96 23591 10/29/98
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The dealership could not find any records of this and said that they do not remap because it voids the warranty and they wont be held responsible for any ill effects that this mod could cause and no dealer would ever do this or even could do it if they wanted to.
It is a dealer sticker. I think he is wrong. And I just would like to find out what it was modified to.
With all my years owning jeeps I have never seen this sticker.
And why would the PO have a dealer do this and not just buy a chip or have a speed shop with a computer do it. This must of cost him a pretty penny to have a dealer do it.
Any one seen this before? If so what does it mean? Besides the obvious pcm reprogramed.
My current list of jeeps that I own.
2004 tj X
97 tj se with the 4 banger
93 and 87 xj
72 jeepster comando
77 cj5
78 cj5
93 yj
In the last month I have sold my 95 and my 91 xj, 90 grand wagoneer, 79 j-10, and my 93 grand chereokee.
I had 13 and now i am down to 8.
As soon as I sell my 77 cj5 I will stay at 7. Until I find something else that catches my fancy.
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That sounds like the sticker they added when Chrysler had a recall to have the PCM reprogrammed. The old programming was burning out catalytic converters. If I remember correctly.
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That's a common sticker when the ECM has to be reprogrammed. I'm sure it's nothing more than a factory program to fix a problem.
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that is a recall sticker and yes they remap when chrysler sends them the recall but they(the dealer) have no idea what they are changing,or what is in the software they are putting in there.Sounds like you need a new dealer if he couldn't or wouldn't identify a recall sticker!
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i think if you put your vin # in jeep.com they tell you what warranty work has been done on the jeep and may explain a little more about the sticker... but most likely will prove that it was a recall and nothing else.
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i think if you put your vin # in jeep.com they tell you what warranty work has been done on the jeep and may explain a little more about the sticker... but most likely will prove that it was a recall and nothing else.
That will only tell you if you have any outstanding recalls. Interesting that they have that there though. I didn't know about it.
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That will only tell you if you have any outstanding recalls. Interesting that they have that there though. I didn't know about it.
Uh-oh, my parking brake recall wasn't done. Good thing I didn't hook it back up when I swapped in the 8.8 :yikes:
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Uh-oh, my parking brake recall wasn't done. Good thing I didn't hook it back up when I swapped in the 8.8 :yikes:
Mine hasn't been done either but then mine doesn't jump if I set it right.
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mine hasn't been replaced either.. never use it anyways..... i have had bad luck with parking brakes....
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seen lots of them on mopars just means the pcm was flashed
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BTW: I think the sticker has to do with Recall E22. If you go back to the Dealer, refer to it as E22. They should be able to look it up.
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EMISSIONS RECALL E22– REPROGRAM THE POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE AND INSPECTION OF THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER
Dear: (Name)
The Administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has determined that certain 1996 model year Jeep® Cherokee and Grand Cherokee vehicles equipped with a 4.0 liter engine and certain 1997 and 1998 Jeep® Wrangler and Cherokee vehicles, and Dodge Dakota pickup trucks equipped with a 2.5 liter engine require modification in order to comply with requirements of the Clean Air Act designed to protect public health and welfare. DaimlerChrysler Corporation (DCC) has determined that the modifications required by EPA will improve the vehicle’s ability to monitor the performance of the emission control system and may reduce the emission of pollutants that are regulated by EPA under the Clean Air Act. Because DCC has achieved this improved emissions system monitoring without compromising the safety or driveability of your vehicle, EPA and DCC strongly encourage you to bring your car to a dealer to perform the modification.
The problem is...
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) on your vehicle (VIN xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) contains software that may not be capable of detecting a deteriorating catalyst. This can result in failure to illuminate the On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) malfunction indicator light (MIL) warning the customer of a potential problem. Also, under certain conditions, some catalytic converters may be subject to mechanical degradation that causes them to rattle. This catalytic converter degradation eventually could result in higher exhaust emission levels and the illumination of the MIL.
What your dealer will do...
DaimlerChrysler will repair your vehicle free of charge (parts and labor). To do this, your dealer will reprogram your vehicle s Powertrain Control Module. The work will take about an hour to complete. However additional time may be necessary depending on how dealer appointments are scheduled and processed. Your dealer will also inspect your vehicle’s catalytic converter. If the catalyst is found to be "rattling" or loose, the dealer will replace it free of charge (parts and labor).
NOTE: This recall does not include the replacement of other exhaust system components. If other exhaust system components require replacement, the associated repair costs are your responsibility.
Your catalytic converter warranty period will be: (A) eight years or 80,000 miles from the vehicle’s original in-service date; or (B) twelve months or 12,000 miles from the date your recall service is performed, whichever of (A) or (B) is later.
What you must do...
If you need help...
Simply contact your dealer right away to schedule a service appointment.
If you have questions or concerns which your dealer is unable to resolve, please contact DaimlerChrysler at 1-800-853-1403.
Please help us update our records, by filling out the enclosed prepaid postcard, if any of the conditions listed on the card apply to you or your vehicle. Be sure to print the last eight (8) characters of your VIN (VVVVVVVV) and notification code E22 on the postcard.
If you paid for a repair involving the replacement of the catalyst after the expiration of the original eight year/80,000 mile warranty period but before receiving this Owner Notification Letter, you may send your original receipts and/or other adequate proof of payment to the following address for reimbursement:
DaimlerChrysler
P.O. Box 4639
Oak Ridge, TN 37831
Attention: Reimbursement
In order to ensure your full protection under the emission warranty made applicable to your vehicle by Federal and/or California law and your right to participate in future recalls, it is recommended that you have your vehicle serviced as soon as possible. Failure to do so could legally be determined to be a lack of proper maintenance of your vehicle. Further, without this repair, your vehicle may fail a state or local emission inspection test.
We apologize for any inconvenience but trust that you understand our interest in clean air. Thank you for your attention to this important matter.
Customer Services Field Operations
DaimlerChrysler Corporation
Notification Code E22
Additional Information for California Residents
If you live in California and don't have this recall performed...
How the state knows that the recall has not been performed...
The State of California requires the completion of emission recall repairs prior to vehicle registration renewal. In addition, the State requires that every vehicle must pass a vehicle inspection or SMOG check every two years and before it is sold. Without the free service we are providing, your vehicle may be more likely to fail this test and require that you make costly repairs.
State of California regulations require DaimlerChrysler to provide the Department of Motor Vehicles with a record of all vehicles that have not had the recall service performed.
Your dealer will provide you with a Vehicle Emission Recall Proof of Correction Form after the recall service is performed. Be sure to save this form since the California Department of Motor Vehicles may require that you supply it as proof that the recall has been performed.
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I reprogram vehicles all the time at work and re-map them at the chev deal i work for. but it's all stock. it's to help with fuel changes and environmental issues. and or common operating complaints.
the only performance programing I have done at the chev dealer was on a cobalt ss that's supercharged and the customer upgraded to stage II supercharger witch required reprogramming for the new super charger. also re flashed a cavalier for because a GM supercharger kit was installed. and also did a chev truck that put on factory exhaust and intake and came with pcm reprogramming included "package deal".
don't know how much more power any of them actually added.
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yea same at ford we have a recall for the 6.4ls 08b07 it recals the pcm tcm and ic. basiaclly all it changes is when they idle, it cleans the dpf. also on the explorers and some of the 3.5ls there are reprograms to help with driveablility issues
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dang. I was hoping that I had some super secret 300 hp magic remaped pcm that no one new about that caused my jeep to grow wings and would allow my engine to go 8 hundred thousand miles befor the next oil change.
Bummer.
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lol dealer would never do that they don't make any money off you that way lol