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Title: ccv
Post by: jeepyj95 on November 01, 2009, 04:43:31 PM
anyone know where i can buy a ccv filter?
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: Jeffy on November 01, 2009, 04:56:11 PM
Filter?  You mean the small K&N that people use to bypass it?
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: sharpxmen on November 01, 2009, 05:17:04 PM
anyone know where i can buy a ccv filter?

if your answer to jeffy's question above is yes then search ebay for "breather filter" or valve cover breather - you'll find quite a few ranged from $3 to about $20. But keep in mind that you might get blowby gas in the cabin
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: Jesse-James on November 01, 2009, 06:17:16 PM
I use one on mine with no problems but YMMV.
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: aw12345 on November 01, 2009, 06:43:31 PM
What works well is to use a breather filter of an old chrysler v8 and then run a hose from that to the airfilter box. I used to use that on chevy engines that fouled the airfilters with oil, worked very well
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: jeepyj95 on November 01, 2009, 08:05:49 PM
its the one at the back of the engine on top.
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: sharpxmen on November 01, 2009, 08:25:01 PM
its the one at the back of the engine on top.

yes, the one that goes to the air filter box with a plastic elbow, not the one with the brass fitting that goes to the intake manifold (that you need to leave it as is, make sure it's not obstructed, clean it with a rod if it is).
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: Jeffy on November 01, 2009, 08:35:18 PM
What works well is to use a breather filter of an old chrysler v8 and then run a hose from that to the airfilter box. I used to use that on chevy engines that fouled the airfilters with oil, worked very well
So you're basically making a oil catch can/air/oil separator?
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: jeepyj95 on November 03, 2009, 01:54:03 PM
would it be okay to put a breather air filter on it rather that running that hose it is connected to back to the air intake?
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: aw12345 on November 03, 2009, 02:10:40 PM
Yup but it still connects to the air filter, the oil vapors seem to turn to oil and drain back into the valve cover
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: Jeffy on November 03, 2009, 02:32:28 PM
Yup but it still connects to the air filter, the oil vapors seem to turn to oil and drain back into the valve cover
Yeah, the oil particle vapors are larger and get stuck on the filter then collect there.  The catch can works by giving the vapors a large enough cavity that the vapors cool and the oil condenses.

The only problem with having just a filter and venting out into the engine compartment is that that oil will not condense on your valve cover.
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: sharpxmen on November 03, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
Yeah, the oil particle vapors are larger and get stuck on the filter then collect there.  The catch can works by giving the vapors a large enough cavity that the vapors cool and the oil condenses.

The only problem with having just a filter and venting out into the engine compartment is that that oil will not condense on your valve cover.

you can also get a large oil catch can off ebay for about $20 or even less but you need to mod it and put some sort of filter inside for best results (they come empty), will work better than the breather filter and you can still go to the stock airbox from the outlet of the catch can.
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: jeepyj95 on November 03, 2009, 03:15:40 PM
well in that case i'll just run the hose back into the air box. i'm gonna make a custom intake a t some point: can i rig it to fit with that assembly?
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: Jeffy on November 03, 2009, 03:27:21 PM
well in that case i'll just run the hose back into the air box. i'm gonna make a custom intake a t some point: can i rig it to fit with that assembly?
As long as you make it with a bung for the hose, it will work.  I'd consider replacing the hose with silicone hose since the plastic can crack if you're moving it around a lot.
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: aw12345 on November 03, 2009, 06:21:11 PM
It does the exact same thing as a catch can, but it still keeps the smog system legal does not foul the airfilter and used to cost about 7 bucks has no filter in it just course steelwool. It's what I would use on a YJ. Also you can also run the vent hose into the the tube that goes from the filter box to the intake that way it happily slobbers the fumes but doesn't foul up the airfilter. That is basically what Chrysler did with the 2.4l engine
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: jeepyj95 on November 05, 2009, 05:07:38 PM
well i got in contact with my nearest jeep dealership and they dont carry that part because it has been discontinued. Apparently nobody in the country carries it either is what they said in an email
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: Jeffy on November 05, 2009, 05:15:06 PM
well i got in contact with my nearest jeep dealership and they dont carry that part because it has been discontinued. Apparently nobody in the country carries it either is what they said in an email
A CCV Filter?  What part are you looking for exactly?  The 90* fitting?
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: sharpxmen on November 05, 2009, 05:19:14 PM
A CCV Filter?  What part are you looking for exactly?  The 90* fitting?
i think someone said in this thread that the newer TJs came with a filter on the valve cover for the breather line, i think that's what he was looking for (just guessing based on what i remember from this thread)
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: Jeffy on November 05, 2009, 05:20:10 PM
i think someone said in this thread that the newer TJs came with a filter on the valve cover for the breather line, i think that's what he was looking for (just guessing based on what i remember from this thread)
His Avatar shows a YJ so I assumed it was for that?  Art mentioned a filter but that's not a stock filter for the Jeep.  it's an old style breather.
Title: Re: ccv
Post by: dwtaylorpdx on November 05, 2009, 09:29:03 PM
You can get something similar form Jegs or summit.

Dave