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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: Lu on February 24, 2010, 06:56:59 PM
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Has anyone out there put roller rockers on their 4 banger? I saw them in a catalog I was browsing and wondered if they are worth the 380 bucks they cost. Just wondering.
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I would like to have rollers in mine, much quieter and adds a pony or two from what I've read. Just can't get past the cost.
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I run them; have not noticed any difference, but they SHOULD (1) ad a pony or two as mentioned, and (2) help reduce (just a tad) engine heat (less friction). The butt dyno, though, has not picked out any differences... I guess it's a good addition to all the other mods (ignition, high flow filter, cat and cat back, more aggressive cam, 62mm TB, eFan, etc.). Not sure if I would buy them again, though.
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How 'bout running quiter, that was one of the draws for me.
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How 'bout running quiter, that was one of the draws for me.
Could be; but I did it at the same time I changed the cat, the cat back, the 62mm TB and a bunch of other stuff that made the Jeep louder, so I cannot really tell... There is still valvetrain noise in mine (sounds a bit like a diesel), but I think this has to do more with the broken exhaust manifold stuc (the last one) than anything else...
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I run them; have not noticed any difference, but they SHOULD (1) ad a pony or two as mentioned, and (2) help reduce (just a tad) engine heat (less friction). The butt dyno, though, has not picked out any differences... I guess it's a good addition to all the other mods (ignition, high flow filter, cat and cat back, more aggressive cam, 62mm TB, eFan, etc.). Not sure if I would buy them again, though.
Are you using ones with rollers as well as a higher lift profile?
Probably needs a study, but I wouldn't be surprised if modern synthetic motor oils, w/their high film strength vs regular motor oil, do a decent job of reducing friction on the valve-train even without roller-rockers. I'd still want a set for my 4banger though.
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Are you using ones with rollers as well as a higher lift profile?
Probably needs a study, but I wouldn't be surprised if modern synthetic motor oils, w/their high film strength vs regular motor oil, do a decent job of reducing friction on the valve-train even without roller-rockers. I'd still want a set for my 4banger though.
Mine are 1.6 with rollers, but I do have a more aggressive cam (.450 lift 256 duration Mopar High Performance camshaft), so I would not want to go any higher anyway. Getting 1.7 ones would be equivalent to a more aggressive cam without having to actually swap the cam.
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If all you want is quieter, it seems like converting the stock arms to an adjustable stud type mount would help a lot. Then you could actually get the valvetrain adjusted correctly and take all the slop out.
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If all you want is quieter, it seems like converting the stock arms to an adjustable stud type mount would help a lot. Then you could actually get the valvetrain adjusted correctly and take all the slop out.
I didn't know you could do that????
Can I do it to my 98 2.5?
Where can I buy them?
Thanks,
Vance
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I didn't know you could do that????
Can I do it to my 98 2.5?
Where can I buy them?
Thanks,
Vance
No kit that I'm aware of, but there's no reason it couldn't be done. Replace bolt with stud and use chevy style stover nuts. Might be able to use parts off a 3.0L mercruiser, which is what gave me the idea. When my boat starts to sound like my jeep I know it's time for a rocker adjustment ;)
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If all you want is quieter, it seems like converting the stock arms to an adjustable stud type mount would help a lot. Then you could actually get the valvetrain adjusted correctly and take all the slop out.
the hydraulic lifters are supposed to take the slop out
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the hydraulic lifters are supposed to take the slop out
"Suppossed" being the key word here... ::)
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the hydraulic lifters are supposed to take the slop out
My boat has hydraulic lifters as does pretty much every older chevy motor I've worked on and they all have adjustable rockers. You can only take so much slop out with a lifter.
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could just goto an adjustable pushrod for a cheaper way to adjust valvetrain
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could just goto an adjustable pushrod for a cheaper way to adjust valvetrain
If you could find some the right size. Problem is adjusting them is a pain. With an adjust able rocker you just remove the valve cover, fire it up and adjust until the rattle goes away or the valve starts floating.
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If you could find some the right size. Problem is adjusting them is a pain. With an adjust able rocker you just remove the valve cover, fire it up and adjust until the rattle goes away or the valve starts floating.
this is what i know: if you use hydraulic lifters you adjust the preload, alternatively you can use proper length pushrods if you don't have the ability to adjust the rockers or pushrods. if you use mechanical lifters then you adjust backlash (if you preload these the valve will be open).
if a hydraulic lifter is damaged and not holding pressure (bleeds right away) then it should be replaced, adjusting the pushrods or rockers (to quiet down that lifter) can cause the valve to remain open