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Title: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: BigCountry on April 10, 2010, 02:38:37 PM
anybody doing any work to their jp's now that weather has fully turned for the better?

i just ripped out the old fan and put in an electric one.
tomorrow i'm gonna install the 4.0l throttle body and the cold air intake. hopefully i'll see a decent difference on the gas pedal.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: chardrc on April 10, 2010, 03:06:00 PM
been dieing to work on my jeep but school is taking all my time  :brick:.. but i have been helping me dad change the front axle on the willys because the old one's housing cracked at the kingpin... had an extra axle setting around so had to clean it up, throw the locker in it, and put the disk brake outers on it...
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Mozman68 on April 10, 2010, 09:35:34 PM
Ready to start...just got back from FL today.  Beautiful out....need to button up my exhaust....
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 10, 2010, 10:53:22 PM
Hahah, I just swapped out my thermostat and thermostat seal since the seal was leaking and while I was there I might as well swap the thermostat good or not. (actually it's still good.)  Then I find that the lower radiator hose leaks when under pressure which is causing the gauge to bounce around 200*.  I think I fixed it though.

I also can say, I love the look of the roof rack but it's really slowing me down.  It's like a sail and I'll probably remove it once it stops raining.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: drunkencityworker on April 11, 2010, 12:21:01 AM
Would love to get a bunch done but I am broke..Did some tool organizing helped my boy bleed his moms solara brakes and wired up a tj trailor harness for a case of beer...lol  I have been scraping loose rust and brushing rustoleum on frame for the last week of and on tho...lol
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: FourbangerYJ on April 11, 2010, 10:17:04 AM

I also can say, I love the look of the roof rack but it's really slowing me down.  It's like a sail and I'll probably remove it once it stops raining.

I was wondering why you run around all the time with it on. How do you seal up the holes?
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 11, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
I was wondering why you run around all the time with it on. How do you seal up the holes?
There are hinge plates that bolt to the top.  You remove the bolt holding the hinge together and the rack comes off leaving the other side on the Jeep.  The PO of the top did this.  I've thought about buying a new rack but this one was basically free with the top and the holes are already there so I'm not complaining.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Sine Deviance on April 11, 2010, 10:38:46 PM
Here's a list of things I'd like to get done on my Jeep this summer:

*New thermostat/coolant hoses and maybe some vac hoses.
*Proper tune-up w/ new plugs/wires/dizzy cap/rotor/fuel filter/air filter.
*New bolts for the transmission inspection plate.
*New halftop/tonneau combo from JC Whitney for the rainy days. I need a new top anyway and the price is excellent. (http://www.jcwhitney.com/cab-top-and-tonneau-combination/p2002742.jcwx?_requestid=5564047#)
*New chrome mirrors.
*Stainless mirror-relocation brackets.
*E-Fan swap w/ Delta Control box.
*New carpets, the ones I have now are an embarrassment.
*New OEM-style exhaust manifold with a header-back system of some kind.

Money is always the limiting factory :biggrin:
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: BigCountry on April 12, 2010, 01:50:48 PM
sounds like there are some great projects coming. i only manage to do the e-fan swap over the weekend, and after i finished, jeep wasn't running right. started fine the first time, but after that it was real sputtery and had to start it half clutch, in gear and moving a little. also really strong gas smell when starting it. not sure what i did, probably should have pulled off the serpentine before tightening the fan pulley back down. but it had to happen during the fan swap cuz i ran the jeep to pepboys for the parts a half hour before starting. typical of a pepboys trip too, go for a simple thing like a gasket and some sealant so i could do the throttle body swap and walk out with a shopping cart with an e-fan, cold air intake and accessories and the things i actually had planned on buying. btw cold air intake is a universal kit from spectre that ran me about 60 for the kit, plus another 30 on vaccuum sensor relocator, bigger filter, and a 90 degree piece to run it to throttle body. kit specs: aluminum 3" tubing, filter, plastic hose to force air, and all connectors, has vacuum lines already set in the pipe, but how i'm doing it, my hose wouldn't reach, so got the relocator.

anyway gonna try and fix whatever i botched before doing the throttle body and intake.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: OH-YJ on April 12, 2010, 02:12:02 PM
We had a beatuiful weekend in Ohio. I got my Borla exhaust installed and finally cut off the rear track bar.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 12, 2010, 02:16:21 PM
Funny thing, it rained all yesterday and today.  Found ouy mu Jeep still leaks.  This time it's the windshield cowl.  The windshield needs to be pushed back so it compresses the seal more.  That will have to wait till a weekend where it's sunny though.  That means having to readjust the top and probably the doors as well.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: blacknblue on April 12, 2010, 06:54:44 PM
My jeep is up on jackstands and it is starting to wear on me the amount of work I need to do to it before summer. I finally removed the stock transfer case skid from the stripped nutserts.  Now I have to drill out the nutserts, grind the welds, and remove them completely.  At that time I plan on fabricating a shop vac attachment to remove the build up of mud and rust flakes from the inside of my frame thru the 5/8" holes.  Then it's time to take a wire wheel to knock off rust flakes in all the knooks and crannies of the entire undercarraige and then use the High Performance Rustoleum Rust Reformer rust treatment on just about everything under my ride...and topcoat it with Rustoleum Hammered Areosol.  Then I need to install the Skyjacker transfer case shifter relocation bracket.  Hopefully by the time I finish my shifter bracket install,  I can afford some new 1" motor mounts and a transmission mount.  Then I can bolt up the skid and see how bad my driveline vibrates and fork over some more dough on an Advanced Adapters SYE and a Tom Woods CV driveshaft.  Then I can at least drive it for the summer.  I wish I had a pile of money,  and a few weeks off to just go to town and build this thing all at once and do it right.  Definately watching the weather right now since there is so much painting going on...looks good for a few days here in Chicago. 
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: BigCountry on April 12, 2010, 08:45:55 PM
My jeep is up on jackstands and it is starting to wear on me the amount of work I need to do to it before summer. I finally removed the stock transfer case skid from the stripped nutserts.  Now I have to drill out the nutserts, grind the welds, and remove them completely.  At that time I plan on fabricating a shop vac attachment to remove the build up of mud and rust flakes from the inside of my frame thru the 5/8" holes.  Then it's time to take a wire wheel to knock off rust flakes in all the knooks and crannies of the entire undercarraige and then use the High Performance Rustoleum Rust Reformer rust treatment on just about everything under my ride...and topcoat it with Rustoleum Hammered Areosol.  Then I need to install the Skyjacker transfer case shifter relocation bracket.  Hopefully by the time I finish my shifter bracket install,  I can afford some new 1" motor mounts and a transmission mount.  Then I can bolt up the skid and see how bad my driveline vibrates and fork over some more dough on an Advanced Adapters SYE and a Tom Woods CV driveshaft.  Then I can at least drive it for the summer.  I wish I had a pile of money,  and a few weeks off to just go to town and build this thing all at once and do it right.  Definately watching the weather right now since there is so much painting going on...looks good for a few days here in Chicago. 

that sounds like a hell of a bunch of work going on...best of luck with that
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: oldjeep on April 13, 2010, 06:24:10 AM
I have to fix my O2 sensor wiring again.  Finally got a plug to replace the one I melted on the last trip out.  Wire colors were different but I thought I saw a pattern - looks like I was wrong.  Check engine is intermittantly coming on and its running really rich.  So today I get to take the FSM connector diagram and figure out what I screwed up.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 13, 2010, 01:39:45 PM
I might try to do an oil change today as it's sitting in the street.  With the sure-drain, it's pretty easy to do oil changes anywhere.  Its not raining but it's overcast.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: oldjeep on April 13, 2010, 01:58:29 PM
I have to fix my O2 sensor wiring again.  Finally got a plug to replace the one I melted on the last trip out.  Wire colors were different but I thought I saw a pattern - looks like I was wrong.  Check engine is intermittantly coming on and its running really rich.  So today I get to take the FSM connector diagram and figure out what I screwed up.

Hmm, it was all wired correctly.  Guess I'll have to wait for it to happen again and read the codes.  Could be that the new O2 sensor is junk.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 13, 2010, 06:00:03 PM
Goy the oil change done but the oil filter was being a PITA.  It was a Motorcraft so it didn't fit the standard filter socket.  I had to use the strap wrench and it kept slipping.  Then it started to crush.  :brick:  Frams have never done this.  :finger:  I date my oil filters so I can easily see when I changed the oil last.  Unfortunately I kept putting this last one off and off and off.  Then When I overheated, oil leaks from what looks like the valve cover.  The date read 05/2008.  :wall:  Luckily, I don't drive that much but that's still way over do.  Typically I do one ever year as I put less then 10K miles on it in that time frame.

Oh and the trick to get a slippery oil filter off with a strap wrench is to wrap it with sand paper, grit side down.  Then you have to twist it the correct way.   :whistle:  The Sure-drain still works like it's supposed to, although slow.  I got a whole 3 quarts out of the engine.  :uhoh:  Five quarts went in.  :doggy:

Oh yeah, while I was under there, I was looking at home much room there is.  I'm not sure if you can fit the larger PH977a filter in there.  The PH8a gets awfully close to the engine mount when screwing it off.  Might be better to use it with a remote oil filter kit.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: oldjeep on April 13, 2010, 06:03:04 PM
Big channel locks is all I ever use for filters.  Crushes them for a good grip.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: sharpxmen on April 13, 2010, 06:04:21 PM
Might be better to use it with a remote oil filter kit.

i'm really considering getting one with a thermostat for a cooler - if you find something reasonable let me know.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 13, 2010, 06:10:08 PM
Big channel locks is all I ever use for filters.  Crushes them for a good grip.
Yeah we used to always have a set for filters but it's pretty tight in there.  The other option is to drive a screwdriver through and twist it off but that makes a huge mess.  The strap wrench with sandpaper worked well.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: chardrc on April 13, 2010, 07:53:13 PM

 I got a whole 3 quarts out of the engine.  :uhoh:  Five quarts went in.  :doggy:


i thought the oil capacity for the 2.5l with filter was 4 quarts? the bigger oil filter add that much capacity?
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 13, 2010, 08:30:36 PM
i thought the oil capacity for the 2.5l with filter was 4 quarts? the bigger oil filter add that much capacity?
Yes it's 4.  The larger filter allows for a little more then 1/2 a qt.  Also the SAFE area is a quart.  So I'm at the top of the safe area.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Torch_Ind on April 14, 2010, 04:52:09 PM
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz239/Torch_Ind/jeep/P4090002.jpg)


does this count for under the hood?  the hood is still on lol
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Torch_Ind on April 14, 2010, 05:00:51 PM
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz239/Torch_Ind/jeep/SSPX1110.jpg)

made it easy to install the fuel pressure regulator
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Sine Deviance on April 18, 2010, 03:08:56 AM
Which one did you go with? Is it adjustable?
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: chrisfranklin on April 18, 2010, 03:23:13 AM
I've been using the M301 size Filters for a while.  That's about what I am getting in there, somewhere between 4.5-5 quarts instead of the usual 4 quarts.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: sharpxmen on April 18, 2010, 07:25:44 AM
Which one did you go with? Is it adjustable?

he bought one of the ones i made - this is his: http://4bangerjp.com/forums/index.php/topic,8262.msg66564.html#msg66564
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Torch_Ind on April 18, 2010, 07:46:11 AM
I've been using the M301 size Filters for a while.  That's about what I am getting in there, somewhere between 4.5-5 quarts instead of the usual 4 quarts.

 :beers:
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 18, 2010, 12:13:14 PM
Well, it's sunny today but tomorrow is supposed to rain.  New project is to reseat the windshield frame so it doesn't leak.  I think TSD actually mentioned this in my 'leaks' thread.  I have also found a new seam sealer that is better then the RTV I used and is clear.  I'll probably end up cleaning out the RTV and applying the sealer later on as well.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: oldjeep on April 18, 2010, 04:17:16 PM
Spent the day stripping a club members 4 banger comanche.  He got t boned by a car going about 45mph, which pushed him sideways until the truck rolled.  Luckily the rocker guards kept the cab from collapsing and kept him out of the hospital.  He already bought a 6 cyl commanche to move all the good parts to.

BTW - there is a good external slave AX5 for sale out of this rig if anyone is looking for one

(http://www.oldjeep.com/files/DSCN1580.jpg)
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 18, 2010, 05:39:23 PM
Awww, it's sleeping.

I pulled the windshield down and was able to get it a bit tighter.  Last tine I didn't bother to put pressure on the seal so it leaked.  We'll find out if it leaks this time.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: Jeffy on April 19, 2010, 01:32:28 PM
I hope that your new seam sealer gets the job done...
You can test it by spraying some water on your windshield...
The stuff I applied a month ago works fine and will probably work for several years.  BUT it's silicone so it can be rubbed off, luckily I don't wash my Jeep.  I usually just wait till it rains as doing any long soaking takes too long.
Title: Re: nice weather, time to get under the hood
Post by: BigCountry on May 01, 2010, 08:40:38 PM
finally got back under the hood to finish the intake, e-fan, and 4.0L tb swap. god i love it. feels like quite a bit more power just from that. easier to drive. however when i get up over about 3300-3500 rpm it feels like it's not putting out as much power...more like it's just loud but not really turning the wheels any harder. huge low end torque difference tho. at the gas station i was pulling away from the pump without a foot on anything...gassed a little and let out on clutch, and then when i got moving, got my feet off both and i was accelerating. it is a manual trans, no i don't have cruise, no the throttle wasn't stuck. kinda weird, but it was a bit neat.