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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: chrisfranklin on April 27, 2010, 03:49:22 PM
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The alarm I have on there now is a bare-bones CrimeStopper unit that actually hit the market during Bill Clinton's second term. It's been on there since I bought my 4banger YJ in 1999. Overall it's worked surprisingly ok over the years
To give you some background for this post, I'll mention something that happened late last year in mid-December.
Then I was away doing some work on a job. I left my 4banger parked on the streets where I usually park -- residential neighborhood that has street-cleaning once a week. Knew I'd be back before the street cleaning business that week -- if you leave it parked when they clean the streets you end up getting a $60 ticket, so it pays to move the thing.
However, when I return after a few days to where I parked my Jeep, I see that it is gone!.
Now generally, if you have parking tickets in arrears, you get booted, not towed off. However, I didn't have any outstanding LA parking tickets!
So, in mind there was no reason for a boot or tow away. Still, I concluded that my Jeep was apparently either towed away or stolen -- I presumed "stolen" since I believed my conduct eye-to-eye the LA's meter maids was blameless.
Here's where things get ugly. @hit got so backed up on me job-wise that I did not make a call to the LAPD for two full weeks in December after I found my Jeep missing.
Yeah it was just a phone call, but I didn't want to then talk to my insurer after the LAPD and hear how they'd only be letting me recover $2500 on the thing. Finally, I call LAPD after two weeks of putting it off. I say, "I want to report a stolen vehicle" (my first time doing this). Switchboard lady says, "what's the license plate #?"
I give it to her and instead of saying, "well, we don't have it," she says, "your vehicle has been impounded by the County...somebody called a couple of weeks ago to have it towed off the street since the alarm on it was going on and on and on continuously and nobody was shutting it off."
I am thinking, "Ahhhhh (Rhymes with Luck)!!!" So, I say, "how much and where is it impounded?" She says to the effect, "since it has been 2 weeks since it was towed and it runs $35 a day sitting in the impoundment lot, the fee now totals close to $700 (35 x 14 days + $185 for towing, so $675 total).
(LA gets away with this crap because the city itself is essentially bankrupt. Rip off apparent parking scofflaws and nobody gives a darn and they know they can score easy additional revenue for the city).
So I am forced in to paying the $675 to get the Jeep back. Later, I also disconnect the alarm and then fall-back on locking the pedals with a long pad lock.
This has worked for the last few months, but I think its high time I update my alarm system for convenience sake and since I have lost confidence in the old CrimeStopper (I spent several days testing this old alarm, changing the fob batteries, hitting the disarm, disconnecting the battery, getting the old instruction manual for it by PDF -- still no joy)
So here it is 4 months later and I have to ask, "what do you guys like for vehicle alarms? Or what about LoJack maybe?" Thanks :beers:
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I don't even bother with alarms anymore. I've gone with a starter and fuel pump interrupt and will probably end up with a steering wheel disconnect as well.
Most of the time you have to worry about someone stealing stuff form inside the Jeep and not stealing the whole thing. Lock boxes and storing stuff goes a long way in helping. For actual theft, I'd keeping full coverage insurance and keeping receipts will at least let you recoup the money invested. Lo Jack only works in certain cities and won't help if it goes across the boarder.
You might also look into something like the Escort Entourage.
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You need one of these
http://www.youtube.com/v/xWtBghktOlE&hl=en_US&fs=1&
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nothing in my jeep worth stealing. most of the time it remains unlocked (dont want them cutting the windows). Around here jeeps arent high on the theft list (thats according to my insurance company) so i really havent thought of getting an alarm.
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nothing in my jeep worth stealing. most of the time it remains unlocked (dont want them cutting the windows). Around here jeeps arent high on the theft list (thats according to my insurance company) so i really havent thought of getting an alarm.
In CA and especially in San Diego, they are sought after. Mexicans steal them and then take them across the boarder. Not so much further north you go.
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I don't spend a lot of time at JeepForum, but I read some recent post there that mentioned how one of their long time Ca.-based members had just had his Jeep ripped off. All the aftermarket stuff on it was not covered by his policy, so the jf post suggested members there donate money to the guy to help him to equip any replacement Jeep he buys.
His was a TJ, though. The last YJs were made around a decade and a half ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if the newer, better- looking TJs tend to be ripped off more.
But, I wouldn't put it past motivated types to rip off a YJ if they see parts they like or can resell. And YJ or not, an old 4x4 in good condition will probably still sell well in Mexico -- about a decade ago, I was hearing 3x what it would sell for in the U.S. (this might have been in Colombia, not Mexico though)
I'll do an interrupt, but I'll probably still go ahead and get some kind of new alarm too. Around my parts, people still seem to pay attention to everybody either working on their car on the street or otherwise appearing to set off a vehicle alarm without a way to turn it off. Any seemingly suspicious activity associated with cars/trucks on the street, and the bystanders I've seen still seem to pay attention. Of course, car alarms are certainly defeat-able by people who know what they're doing. But I figure an alarm is one of many things that might slow down less-capable thieves out there.
I may modify my insurance policy, also. And of course, I still have the long padlock I've been using to lock the brake and clutch pedals together -- I read some deal a while back that using a padlock on the pedals was a cheap method that a few Tijuana locals had been using to slow down car/truck thieves there. Of course, these days, every car and truck thief down there and in So. Cal. have probably long since invested in bolt cutters or maybe acid to handle the low-tech stuff
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Here's my 2 cents :eek:
I had an alarm, I ripped it out. It was a Clifford with the vibration sensor, tilt sensor, and proximity radar sensor. Man, all it did was go off for no reason A LOT. Locks keep honest people honest, alarms really don't add much in way of detouring a crook. Pretty much if they want it, they'll take it. They're already defeated OnStar's tracking system with cell phone and GPS jamming devices.
Did you know they actually make most arcade games easy to break into with cheap pot metal locks? Why you might ask, it's because it costs more to repair or replace the broken cabinet then it is to let them defeat a $10 lock and get what they want. You have to weigh the cost to protect vs. repair/replace/or extra insure. For that reason, I always keep my comprehensive deductable to at least $100 or lower, usually never cost much more ($20-40 a year more than $500 deductable).
Speaking of car alarms, I just watched the movie Noise on netflix. Tim Robins plays a guy sick of hearing the car alarms going off in his NY neighborhood and starts cutting the car's battery cables at night so he can sleep. Oddly entertaining. :popcorn:
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You need one of these
http://www.youtube.com/v/xWtBghktOlE&hl=en_US&fs=1&
Yes, a trunk monkey would probably put a car thief in to a state of shock. And chimpanzees are supposed to be very strong for their size also.
I say that the possibility of recording a pet chimpanzee going nuts on a car thief is probably one of the key reasons why the video camera was originally invented. That kind of scene just demands to be filmed
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I guess this is one of the few things I like about living where I do.....no alarm....Tuffy center console....I should probably get the Tuffy glove box since that is where I keep my iPhone when I'm just running in places.... :thumbsup:
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I have the tuffy glove box and that thing is heavy duty, the lock mechanism on it is heavy duty looking
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I'll do an interrupt, but I'll probably still go ahead and get some kind of new alarm too. Around my parts, people still seem to pay attention to everybody either working on their car on the street or otherwise appearing to set off a vehicle alarm without a way to turn it off. Any seemingly suspicious activity associated with cars/trucks on the street, and the bystanders I've seen still seem to pay attention. Of course, car alarms are certainly defeat-able by people who know what they're doing. But I figure an alarm is one of many things that might slow down less-capable thieves out there.
I may modify my insurance policy, also. And of course, I still have the long padlock I've been using to lock the brake and clutch pedals together -- I read some deal a while back that using a padlock on the pedals was a cheap method that a few Tijuana locals had been using to slow down car/truck thieves there. Of course, these days, every car and truck thief down there and in So. Cal. have probably long since invested in bolt cutters or maybe acid to handle the low-tech stuff
Out here, no one really looks at a car with it's alarm going off anymore. It's become too common place and people don't set their alarms correctly so false alarms are common. If you're worried about the smash and grab, then an alarm isn't going to stop them. Unless you have a 'radar' alarm that throws microwaves around inside the Jeep, the alarm most likely won't go off. Also, considering how most people don't have a hood lock, they can easily defeat the horn for the alarm. I think you'd be better off buying a lock box of some type and storing all your important stuff in there. Then there will be no reason for anyone to break in other then to steel the whole vehicle.
In that case, you'll only need to install a tracking device of some sort and or fix it so it's more difficult to start. A pad lock is easily defeated with bolt cutters. There is a nice size gap between the pedals so bolt cutters can get in there. The problem with installing kill-switches all over is that if you want to go anywhere, you have to remember to flip all of these switches and anything else to be able to drive it.
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i got an alarm with an immobilizer after my Jeep was stolen back in 2004 - luckily was just taken for a drive and had no damage other than the key/contact. I never leave anything valuable in the Jeep and it's always unlocked (no reason since I only have a soft-top).
I got a parking ticket for the day after it was stolen from the city and was the same spot where the cops found the Jeep a week later, the moronic city clerks still sent me the ticket and i had to dispute that to get off the hook (retards).
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if you must secure it i would say do enough to make it no longer worth the effort. Lock box, alarm and hidden kill switch (that may even be too far). id like to think that any measure of protecting a jeep may actually deter a thief. if a thief is going to rip a car, wouldnt it be worth his/her effort to rip a civic, or camry or other popular brand, than take the time to fiddle with a jeep that has an alarm, hard top and locked doors? If they are in fact going to take the time to fiddle with an alarm, locked doors and anything more, they prob would want to get their money's worth and rip a civic or something like that over a jeep. just my opinion...feel free to refute.
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This is one of the best parts about living where I do; I'm still close to Charlotte but with none of the car-theft worries of Charlotte living :biggrin:
Alarm systems are seriously overrated. Nobody pays attention to them and in some situations they actually help car thieves. The best way is to forget about an alarm and plant your own silent GPS tracking device. Escort makes a good one for ~$399.99. It even sends you emails and text messages when your Jeep moves without you (and the key fob) in it, so you'll instantly know when you're getting jacked. After that it's just a matter of tracking it online and telling the cops where to go. This is the route I'm going to go if I ever decide I need such measures.
When I do have to go to Charlotte in my Jeep I usually take the doors off and the soft top down (so there's nothing to cut) and I take all of my valuables with me in my pockets. Anything that stays with the Jeep (like the stereo faceplate) goes into my console, which is a Bestop Trailmax and has a lock. Then, I find the nearest telephone pole and park next to it. I take a chain and a big padlock and chain my rear axle to the telephone pole. This keeps the thieves from driving away in it or hauling it off on a flatbed. I use dockyard chain and a large industrial-strength padlock; they'd need a plasma torch to cut through it. My reasoning is that if they are willing to go to that much trouble to get the Jeep, I wouldn't have stopped them anyways, no matter what I did.
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I'd love to see a picture of your Jeep padlocked to a telephone pole....something extremely hilarious about that when I picture it in my mind... :roflol:
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I'd love to see a picture of your Jeep padlocked to a telephone pole....something extremely hilarious about that when I picture it in my mind... :roflol:
X2; make sure you take a pic next time!
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This is one of the best parts about living where I do; I'm still close to Charlotte but with none of the car-theft worries of Charlotte living :biggrin:
I used to lived in charlotte for a while-finished up my senior year at south meck in fact-and i really dont think you have to go through that trouble to secure your jeep. i was there not more than a few weeks ago visiting my folks and i left the jeep unlocked and windows zipped down w/o a problem. really doesnt seem like that bad of a city that you would need to iron vault your vehicle to keep it safe. Then again, ive left my jeep unlocked in manhatten while visiting friends and nothing has happened..perhaps im a bit too lax?
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thing is robbers are random.. my jeep was parked in the side yard near the road for 2 years with nothing but a soft top.. then 1 Saturday after i put the hard top on and i had the jeep parked in the driveway someone decided they would slash the soft upper door and try to steal the radio (cheapest one money can buy at best buy).. i was only gone for an hour and my brother was home... the slashed door cost me more than the radio they failed to steal.. i haven't locked my doors since.
take valuables out of jeep and leave it unlocked, if you have a radio beef up its mounting abit more than the standard radio and take the faceplate off and you should be good. although i like the huge chain around a telephone pole idea.
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Sine, that's pretty serious security locking your rear axle to a phone poll! :biggrin: You did that in LA County and you'd probably have thieves treating your Jeep like it was some kind of shrine, leaving ripped-off auto parts around it as a show of respect.
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I'd love to see a picture of your Jeep padlocked to a telephone pole....something extremely hilarious about that when I picture it in my mind... :roflol:
X2; make sure you take a pic next time!
Lol, certainly. I don't plan on going down to Charlotte in the Jeep anytime soon because I got my Corolla, but I'll try to get a novelty pic for you guys sometime :biggrin:
I used to lived in charlotte for a while-finished up my senior year at south meck in fact-and i really dont think you have to go through that trouble to secure your jeep. i was there not more than a few weeks ago visiting my folks and i left the jeep unlocked and windows zipped down w/o a problem. really doesnt seem like that bad of a city that you would need to iron vault your vehicle to keep it safe. Then again, ive left my jeep unlocked in manhatten while visiting friends and nothing has happened..perhaps im a bit too lax?
Nah, you are partly right. Many places of Charlotte, particularly South and East Charlotte, around Pineville, Matthews, South Park, Independence Blvd., Wendover, etc., are plenty safe. But my brother used to live right off Sugar Creek in North Charlotte, otherwise known as 'the hood.' That's one of those crack neighborhoods where you can get shot if you play the wrong music too loud. Cruising into a neighborhood like that in Jeeps like ours attracts a lot of attention, and not all of it is the good kind. West Charlotte is even worse; the areas around Freedom Drive, for example. I used to be the head technician at a Goodwill computer shop down off Freedom, and there were times when I was walking out at night that I honestly thought I was about to get mugged.
Sine, that's pretty serious security locking your rear axle to a phone poll! :biggrin: You did that in LA County and you'd probably have thieves treating your Jeep like it was some kind of shrine, leaving ripped-off auto parts around it as a show of respect.
Hahaha :bow:
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Who in the world is going to steal a YJ?
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Last I remember back in September or October of last year, I saw an YJ posted on craigslist that someone was pleading if anyone had seen it. It was in the high desert (southern CA) and there are a lot of car thefts out here. I know with all the dirt off-roading, someone could eye it for rebuilding there’s and never get caught. I go out on some trails and routinely see stripped abandoned vehicles. Not so many honest folk around here. Wish I was up further north by Mammoth and Yellowstone were there's a lot less crime and smaller communities. One day... ;)
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Found the post regarding it...
http://www1.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=811869
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Stolen Jeep please keep a look out
Hi everyone, Our Jeep was stolen last night, 8-13-09 sometime after 8:30 pm. We are members of the SCRAP4Wheelers Jeep Club in So Cal. We are asking for any help to bring our family toy home.
Description: 1987 Wrangler YJ manual transmission
White body, with black trim
Front Bucket Seats, no back seat.
Built for Rock Crawling
Attached are pictures, no changes have been made to the jeep since.
Location: Lakeview Ave and 10th street in Nuevo, Ca.
They climbed by foot over the fence and drove right back over the fence with the jeep. We are asking if you could post it for your members to see should anyone come across it abandoned in the hills (it could have been a joy ride stealing) or if anyone trying to sell it or the parts from it please call us Robin (951) 453-6643 or Mark (951) 453-6644. There is no license plate because it is not street legal, it is only for off roading / rock climbing. However on the back tailgate there is a license plate frame that says "I'll have mine on the rocks" with a picture of mark climbing rocks with his jeep. Any help would be greatly appreciated, we are so sad
PS A police report has been filed, our fingers are crossed. Thank you for all your help!!
This is out by Perris and Sunland.
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Here's another from here...
http://www1.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=868346
stolen yj FROM jOHNSON vALLEY ca!!!!
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CASH REWARD!!
For part or full recovery, information, tips or leads NO questions
$100-$5,000 Call Josh 714-616-0417 24hrs
Stolen February 24-25 From Johnson Valley/Landers area
• Heavily modified 1989 White Jeep Wrangler 4x4 CA License#6CIF447, Vin #2J4FY29T4KJ132515Has 37 inch BFG tires & custom roll cage
• 2003 Yamaha WR450 F dirtbike Vin #JYACJ04373A000523, engine #J314E0001586 Bike has a clear, over-sized desert gas tank and blue fenders.
• 2004 Honda XR 400 dirtbike. Red. Vin#JH2NE031X4M900597, All stock condition. Plate #151
• 6 motocross protective neck braces. Leatt brand and others
• 9 big motocross gear bags. 1 blue Fox brand Yamaha bag, 2 black duffel bags, 1 Ladies Light Blue FOX Bag(all equipment in bad labeled with Dionne)…all filled with helmets, boots, chest protectors, gloves, goggles etc in various sizes from kids to adult.
• Specific MX gear items include: size 12 black and white Alpine Star boots, Size 16 all black Alpine boots, multiple sets of Fly and Oneil size 10-11 boots. sets of womens boots in black size 8's and 7, womens boots white FOX size 8. FOX, thor, and alpinestars brand knee braces, 2 sets of pink and black FOX girls riding gear, O’Neil size 8 womens blue and black boots, set of womens FOX riding gear size 10 black, multiple pairs of Smith and Oakley goggles Blue/red/black/white, , protective padded jackets, 6 plastic chest protectors, 3 black, 1 white, 2 blue/clear. 2 blue/black HJC helmets m/s, 1 pink and white med helmet, Silver Helmet labeled with Dionne on base. Yellow and Black mens riding jacket. 6 cammelbak style water backpacks. 1 was Thor brand black/yellow, 1 was blue/black, 1 pink, 3 black
• 10 new or near new still in boxes Zox brand, HGC brand and SHOI helmets. Lots of these helmets were mostly yellow and red colors and patterns.
• Miscellaneous power tools including new Chicago Electric saws, drills, red air compressor, a skill saw, nail guns, a black and red floor jack.
• 8 clear, blue and black 5 gallon plastic gas cans with hoses
• Green gas powered Colman generator in black frame
• 8,000 lb electric winch with 100 ft steel cable, top-mounted plastic control box was damaged during theft
• Lots of fireworks-keep an eye out for idiots using them illegally.
• Parts on the jeep include: 2 near-new Cloth all black racing bucket seats with blue Crow brand four-point safety harness seat belts, custom built axles (front HP 44 rear 14bolt) with ROCKCRUSHER stamped on the differential covers and custom 8 lug disk brake kits and Warn premiun hubs, full set of Auto Meter gauges including 5" speedo and 5" tack with shift light, Sony stereo/CD/IPod, (2) 6x9 sony speakers in speaker boxes 15 gal rectangle fuel cell powder coated black.
• 4 37x12.5x17 BFGoodrich Krawler model tires. 2 are stamped “Not for highway use” on the sidewall, 2 are not. These tires are/were on stock 8 lug Hummer H2 rims
Call Josh at 714-616-0417 with any info, Will pay $100 bills for bits of info or leads + will pay per full mx gear bag returned or per vehicle you can lead us to.
SHE WAS FOR SALE TOO....
HERE IS A LINK WITH better descriptions of the parts and more PICS
THANKS
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...1#post11100993
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Who in the world is going to steal a YJ?
Somebody locally left a note/number on my windshield last month asking if I was interested in selling mine. That's the first time somebody has done that since I've had it. Looking at the note, I was kind of thinking, "Dude/Lady, don't you know this is a YJ?! Where the heck are you from?!"
I wasn't interested in selling, so I never contacted the person.
Of course, if its a vehicle and you can take the top off it, then this time of year is probably prime-time in terms of local buyer interest, regardless of the CJ/Wrangler model. Nevertheless, I seriously doubt most thieves have a list of cars/trucks they're looking for that has "Jeep YJ" is on it. :lol:
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Yup, lots of Jeeps, CJ, YJ, TJ, etc... get stolen in Socal. I think most end up going across the boarder. They like anything lifted.
A friend of mine had his YJ stolen in San Diego.
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You guys in cali are def unique. I dont think there is anywhere else in this nation where Jeep Wranglers are at a definite risk of outright theft. Im fairly confident i can leave my jeep in the nearest "rough" neighborhood and it will still be there in the AM...jeeps just arent on the thieves' radar.
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You guys in cali are def unique. I dont think there is anywhere else in this nation where Jeep Wranglers are at a definite risk of outright theft. Im fairly confident i can leave my jeep in the nearest "rough" neighborhood and it will still be there in the AM...jeeps just arent on the thieves' radar.
You're lucky. We're not close to the border here, but off-roading does have a relatively large following around here, and we're only about two hours from Uwharrie. I'm not going to say that off-roader theft is common but I will say that I have heard of at least a few incidents in the past year. One of them was the full vehicle stolen and never recovered, the other two were stripped or had mods stolen off of them right in their parking spots. You have to realize that the thieves can ALWAYS find a buyer for the parts. Off-roading mods are expensive.
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Once you get into Northern CA, it's not a problem. I rarely see anything older then 10 years on the roads.
The other thing is, newer cars are harder to steal. Also, the OE stereo's are better and integrated into the dash so it's not an easy grab.
Oh and the Mexican Police/Govt has been known to drive vehicles stolen from CA. They don't even bother changing the plates either. Once it goes across the boarder it's lost. Insurance will usually just pay out in that case even if you know where the vehicle is.
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Once you get into Northern CA, it's not a problem. I rarely see anything older then 10 years on the roads.
The other thing is, newer cars are harder to steal. Also, the OE stereo's are better and integrated into the dash so it's not an easy grab.
Oh and the Mexican Police/Govt has been known to drive vehicles stolen from CA. They don't even bother changing the plates either. Once it goes across the boarder it's lost. Insurance will usually just pay out in that case even if you know where the vehicle is.
i love the part about them not even changing plates :roflol:
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Yup, lots of Jeeps, CJ, YJ, TJ, etc... get stolen in Socal. I think most end up going across the boarder. They like anything lifted.
A friend of mine had his YJ stolen in San Diego.
The mexicans up here seem to prefer chevy pickup trucks with huge script letters in the back window. I don't think I've ever heard of a stolen jeep up here, even break ins are not very common.
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Yup, lots of Jeeps, CJ, YJ, TJ, etc... get stolen in Socal. I think most end up going across the boarder. They like anything lifted.
A friend of mine had his YJ stolen in San Diego.
That's one thing that's bugging me: Somebody rips off a car/truck in the LA Metro area, he can get on the 405-S and be at the border crossing within 2-3 hours depending on time of day.
So if my Jeep was ripped off while I wasn't around and I had one of those Escort Entourages on it, the Entourage thing, due to my location, would probably end up providing me an "invaluable" readout on my PC, a few hours later, along the lines of, "we've located your vehicle and its currently sitting in a police car parking lot in Tijuana, or its currently sitting at a "George's Body Shop" in Baja...we highly recommend that you contact your local law enforcement officials and inform them of your vehicle's location based on the data provided by your Entourage...Thank you for using Escort Entourage!"
Let's see what happens when I tell local law enforcement (LAPD), "My Jeep was stolen, but I know exactly where it is -- Mexico! Yeah, I've got one of those Entourage deals planted so I know precisely where it's located down there, too... Hey, I realize that this would take you out of your jurisdiction, but I was wondering if maybe you and few of your fellow officers could do me the favor of taking a day off, driving south for a few hours, crossing the border in to Mexico, and then swiping my Jeep back and driving it back up to LA County for me? Wow, you will?...Man, you guys are awesome! ...Wait, you were being serious, right?" :baby:
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thing is robbers are random.. my jeep was parked in the side yard near the road for 2 years with nothing but a soft top.. then 1 Saturday after i put the hard top on and i had the jeep parked in the driveway someone decided they would slash the soft upper door and try to steal the radio (cheapest one money can buy at best buy).. i was only gone for an hour and my brother was home... the slashed door cost me more than the radio they failed to steal.. i haven't locked my doors since.
take valuables out of jeep and leave it unlocked, if you have a radio beef up its mounting abit more than the standard radio and take the faceplate off and you should be good. although i like the huge chain around a telephone pole idea.
That same kind of thing happened to mine when I was staying out in Pico Rivera, Ca in '03. Now that I'm thinking about it, I remember I had pulled the fuse on the alarm and locked the pedals then also for some reason.
Anyway, I walk down in the early morning to a covered parking area where I left my Jeep the night before. Get to it and see that the somebody slashed the left rear, soft-top window. I get inside to look and see how else they f'ed with it. I had pulled the old radio a while back, so there was nothing for them to hit there.
I had the back seat out at the time. When I looked back there, I saw that a beat-up tackle box that belonged to my great grand-dad was gone. I had been using it as a tool box for years because I figured, "what self-respecting thief is going to waste time looking-twice at a rusty, POS, throw-away-looking unit like that?"
Of course, when it got ripped off, so did the $100-150 worth of tools I had in it. And, rusty or not, that tacklebox was also worth something to me
In the years since, I installed a Tuffy center console that also holds my current receiver. I also put in a Bestop trunk behind the back seat.
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I was trying to sell my jeep before I decided to hang on to it since it was paid off, and the only thing in there was my registration book and the kids cut the window out and stole that cause that was the only thing in there. I had taken the radio out to help deter people from breaking in. They broke in to a junk yard after my jeep and got cornered by the dogs that they let out at night so I ended up getting money to buy a new top, they just paid me $15 a week so it took forever :brick: