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Title: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: aerotech on June 01, 2010, 04:39:25 PM
I have a 98 Wrangler with automatic transmission, stock gearing on d30/d35's, and 33" MT Baja Claw tires. The jeep is used as daily driver and drives both city and highway with no power on a windy day.

Would like to here from some of you that have automatic transmission and 33" tire as to what diff gearing you run and whether you are happy with it. Trying to decide between 4.56 and 4.88
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Torch_Ind on June 01, 2010, 05:18:38 PM
I'm running standard and have 4.88's and wish it had a bit more or wish I could stuff at least 5.13's in there I would even do 5.38's if I got d44's under me.

for the 30/35 I would recommend anyone to go to 4.88's.  4.88's would give you a advantage over me giving your auto and I'm standard.

My vote is 4.88's all the way!!

Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: aerotech on June 02, 2010, 02:00:04 PM
Thanks for the reply. Not sure how much difference there will be between automatic and manual. I know us automatic guys don't have the option of driving in 4th. I'm kind of leaning towards 4.88 myself
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Jeffy on June 02, 2010, 02:01:36 PM
Thanks for the reply. Not sure how much difference there will be between automatic and manual. I know us automatic guys don't have the option of driving in 4th. I'm kind of leaning towards 4.88 myself
That would be 5th.  The manuals 4th is exactly the same as your 3rd, 1:1.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Torch_Ind on June 02, 2010, 03:27:55 PM
That would be 5th.  The manuals 4th is exactly the same as your 3rd, 1:1.

oh man 4.88's would be rocking then with a auto.  I would go a bit bigger gears if I could but can't   :'(
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: 97 TJ - I dont wave on June 02, 2010, 08:45:54 PM
4.88 is where you want to be if you wheel and daily drive.
If you are only a trail rig then go higher.
With the dana 35 your axle shaft will break not too long after the gear job.
After you replace your axle shaft the track bar mount/upper drive control arm bracket will break its weld and come off of the axle.
Bottom line, don't waist a penny on regearing. Save your money for an upgraded rear end with the bells and whistles.
Options:
Dana 44
Rock Jock 60
Spider Trax 9 with True High Nine member.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Torch_Ind on June 03, 2010, 10:25:54 AM
I am running 4.88's in my yj with standard and been wheeling 2 years now. no problems. 

you could brake that stuff at stock gearing if your foot is always throw the floor. If you have the cash for heavier axles I would do it but if you don't re-gearing will be fine.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: aerotech on June 04, 2010, 04:30:24 PM
So far have input from people with manual transmissions. Anyone with automatic transmission out there?? :wave:
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Torch_Ind on June 04, 2010, 05:20:02 PM
So far have input from people with manual transmissions. Anyone with automatic transmission out there?? :wave:

I will ask my buddy he is running auto I think and has 35" Krawlers but he may still be stock gearing lol knowing him!


Never mind just called him he is running the 6cld with 3.73's and said his rims were supper light weight. he could prob go to bigger gears to and it would help for a 6cld
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: aparke4 on June 17, 2010, 10:18:35 PM
4.56 would be my vote - good on road/ enough mud slinging ability off - even with the 4 banger you will be able to cruise fine.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Jesse-James on June 17, 2010, 10:45:54 PM
I was running 4.56's w/33's and an auto for the last few months and it was perfect.

Remember with a manual you can throw it in 5th on the freeway to bring the RPM down, we're stuck with what we got in 3rd.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: bootguy on June 18, 2010, 10:23:27 PM
4.88 on 33's with an auto.  decent gas mileage, good power one of the best investments made so far.  Just make sure you change the speedo gear, otherwise you shift points are all screwed up.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: 4X4DAVE on June 23, 2010, 11:28:53 AM
I have an auto with 4.88 and 33 inch tires. I'm very happy. On the highway my RPM run about 3500-4000, not too bad. I average around 14-16 MPG.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Jeffy on June 23, 2010, 11:58:50 AM
I have an auto with 4.88 and 33 inch tires. I'm very happy. On the highway my RPM run about 3500-4000, not too bad. I average around 14-16 MPG.
But that's at 70-75MPH which is pretty good.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: RT on June 23, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
for 33's and an auto, I'd go too dana 44's rear and either 5.13's or 4.88's man, those are some monster tires 4 a 4banger tho, you could probably get away with 4.56's but you're going to eat a lot of gas, what else do you have running on it?
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Torch_Ind on June 23, 2010, 04:00:41 PM

 4.88's would give you a advantage over me giving your auto and I'm standard.

My vote is 4.88's all the way!!



+2
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Jesse-James on June 23, 2010, 07:31:08 PM
for 33's and an auto, I'd go too dana 44's rear and either 5.13's or 4.88's man, those are some monster tires 4 a 4banger tho, you could probably get away with 4.56's but you're going to eat a lot of gas, what else do you have running on it?

I consistently got 15mpg w/4.56 and 35's. I don't buy it.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: RT on June 23, 2010, 10:08:23 PM
I consistently got 15mpg w/4.56 and 35's. I don't buy it.

ok, i'm sorry by my personal standards you would eat gas...if you're ok with 15 then coolio  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Bounty Hunter on June 23, 2010, 10:34:49 PM
ok, i'm sorry by my personal standards you would eat gas...if you're ok with 15 then coolio  :thumbsup:
15mpg is very respectable for 35" tires, I run 35"s and get 15-16mpg with 5.38 gears.  Who buys/builds a jeep for mileage anyway? :stick:
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: Jeffy on June 24, 2010, 01:28:43 PM
I get 15MPG with 4.56's and 35's but then again I tend to drive sprinted.  Hwy speeds are 70MPH so a minimum is 65MPH.  If you go slower you become a road hazard.  The biggest problem at those speeds is wind resistance.  If I slowed to 50-55MPH, I bet I could get over 18MPG.  If I drive more relaxed I can get over 16MPG.  I'm mostly doing short city driving with a few hwy stretches on the weekends so my mileage is low.  When I was doing a 40 mile commute on the hwy, I'd get 18mpg.  I also tried putting the jeep on a diet and removed a couple hundred pounds of weight but that didn't change the mileage much.  Which lead me to believe it was more about the aerodynamics of the Jeep and the wind-resistance at those higher speeds.

Going with lower gears does not necessarily mean your gas mileage will tank.  If you're running too high (numerically low), you're lugging the engine all the time and that will use more gas as well.  Keeping the engine in it's power band is more important.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: bootguy on June 28, 2010, 09:44:17 PM
3500 to 3700rpm is the sweet spot on my 2.5.  I agree with the wind resistance, since if I pull the hard top I drop 2-3 mpg.
Title: Re: Gearing for 33" tires and automatic
Post by: 97 TJ - I dont wave on June 28, 2010, 09:46:01 PM
Kia's are getting around 30mpg, I hear they take trade in's......