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Title: shifting too soon
Post by: jonesy on June 04, 2010, 07:26:29 PM
Ok....I just put on a TB spacer and now it shifts way too soon through all gears! Any idea's???????
97 2.5 automatic :brick:
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: Bounty Hunter on June 04, 2010, 07:49:40 PM
You may need to space up the throttle linkage bracket attached to the intake manifold.
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: sharpxmen on June 04, 2010, 08:18:10 PM
You may need to space up the throttle linkage bracket attached to the intake manifold.

that's probably it - isn't there an adjustment that he can play with?
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: jonesy on June 04, 2010, 08:47:54 PM
I've tried messing with the adjustment on the cable but it doest change much. I guess i will have to make something to lift it up and go from there!
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: sharpxmen on June 04, 2010, 09:17:49 PM
usually the tbs kits come with some spacers (like Bounty said) - i think you can make your own out of 1/4'' pipe (national pipe standard not 1/4'' OD) that you can buy at home depot or some tube that's strong enough - you'll need longer bolts, i think they are M6 (6mm screws) and Home Depot carries these ones as well.
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: Jeffy on June 04, 2010, 09:18:52 PM
Where did you get the spacer from? Generally the production TBS's come with 1" spacers to raise the bracket that holds the throttle cable up.
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: jonesy on June 04, 2010, 09:29:47 PM
I picked it up from somebody awhile ago, and just finally put it on.It was used.

Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: Jeffy on June 05, 2010, 03:48:38 PM
I picked it up from somebody awhile ago, and just finally put it on.It was used.
(http://images.autoanything.com/images/products/large/exhaust_systems/rugged_ridge_throttle_body_spacer_hero.jpg)

You can probably make some from some steel sleeves and longer bolts.  or see if someone who bought one for a manual, didn't use theirs.
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: Bounty Hunter on June 05, 2010, 11:56:43 PM
They're also necessary when using a spacer on the 4.0L engine.  I have mine machined out of aluminum and offer them with the TB spacer.  The bolts are 6mmx40mm or 45mm in length.
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: jonesy on June 07, 2010, 07:07:35 PM
Thank's for all the help guy's!
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: aparke4 on June 08, 2010, 01:05:13 PM
i have read they are needed and not needed on the 2.5 4 banger. i am about to install mine. Mine did come with spacers for the linkage. On all my XJ 4.0's they were needed.
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: aparke4 on June 08, 2010, 01:07:32 PM
from a google search from a tb spacer install:

2.5L's have the linkage bracket in front of the fuel rail while 4.0L's have the bracket behind the fuel rail. The fuel rail makes it impossible to raise the linkage bracket but this will not be a problem. While the throttle body is off I recommend cleaning the bore out. There was a lot of build up around the valve since it had never been cleaned. Also scrape off any gasket that remained on the intake and bottom of the throttle body. Be sure not to let anything fall into the intake... that would be bad.
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: jonesy on June 08, 2010, 07:06:41 PM
You do need to bend the back of the bracket at the rear hole, so it clears the fuel rail when you put the spacers in.

Did mine today and works great!
Thank's
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: aerotech on June 08, 2010, 10:52:17 PM
Jonesy,

Unrelated question. What size tires are you running and are you still running stock gearing (3.73)??
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: jonesy on June 09, 2010, 08:57:57 AM
33-12.50-15 automatic and yes stock gears
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: aerotech on June 09, 2010, 12:13:54 PM
I have the same tire size and gearing. I also have absolutely no power. If it is windy top speed is about 50. Did you also replace the TB with 4.0 TB?? Has it helped with power issues??
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: jonesy on June 09, 2010, 06:50:55 PM
My top speed with a head wind is also 50-55. I do have a 4.0TB, but I havent put it on yet.Just trying 1 thing at a time to see what the difference is. I did grind out the intake bigger before I installed the TB spacer.
Title: Re: shifting too soon
Post by: bootguy on June 18, 2010, 09:23:48 PM
That is enough tire to change the shift point on the automatic transmission. You need to change the speedo gears for correct shifting.