4bangerjp.com

General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: enginethatcould on June 09, 2010, 08:42:31 PM

Title: Dana 44
Post by: enginethatcould on June 09, 2010, 08:42:31 PM
I found this on craig's list, do you guys think this is a good deal?

http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/1767490071.html
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: sharpxmen on June 09, 2010, 08:50:07 PM
I found this on craig's list, do you guys think this is a good deal?

http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/1767490071.html

it's passenger drop rather than driver side which is what you have (front d/s is on the driver's side)

but yeah, i think it's a good deal
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: Jeffy on June 09, 2010, 09:06:20 PM
Well, I'll say it's an OK deal if you had a CJ.  Not great but not bad either.  It's a 1977 which makes it a passenger side drop.  You would need to get a 1980-1990 to get the driver side drop.
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: enginethatcould on June 09, 2010, 09:27:09 PM
I found this on craig's list, do you guys think this is a good deal?

http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/1767490071.html

I have a Dana 300  lying around that I had planned on flipping, so drop is not a big deal.


Well, I'll say it's an OK deal if you had a CJ.  Not great but not bad either.  It's a 1977 which makes it a passenger side drop.  You would need to get a 1984-1990 to get the driver side drop.

Why do you consider it to be e ok deal? Just curious.





Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: Jeffy on June 09, 2010, 11:00:16 PM
Why do you consider it to be e ok deal? Just curious.


Because that's about the same price you'd pay to get a D44 from a yard around these parts.  (I bought my XJD44 for $150 and see SJ axles for about $200 or so.  You can even buy a complete SJ for under $1000.)  The D44 will still need a lot of work.  Gears will have to be changed and you'll want to go through the brakes as well.  The problem with using a passenger side drop is that you're going to have to reroute the exhaust which will bring up other problems.  You have to watch out with the driverside as that's where the fuel lines run.  You could have vapor-lock issues if you're not careful.  You'll also have to either end the exhaust before the axle or dump it out the side.  I guess you could snake it back to the passenger side but that adds a few feet of pipe and will screw with the engine's tuning a bit.  It's just a lot less of a hassle to use a driver side drop axle.  If you have the tools though you can pull the axle tubes off and flip them.  You'll also have to take the inner knuckles off and swap them as well but it can be done.  That's a lot of work though.  If you're going to go through that much works then you might as well get a Ford F-250 Hi-pinion D44 and cut the long side to length SJ length.

I wouldn't even consider the wheels and tires a real part of the deal as they are probably junk.
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: Jeffy on June 09, 2010, 11:07:18 PM
Found this...  Don't need the M20, then sell it and recoup $1-200,

http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/1721061108.html

I'd be all over this if it was local, http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/1782320889.html
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: enginethatcould on June 10, 2010, 12:47:05 PM
Found this...  Don't need the M20, then sell it and recoup $1-200,

http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/1721061108.html

I'd be all over this if it was local, http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/1782320889.html

what front could I pair with D60?

Also, do you think the 20 would make a solid front for 35-37 tires?
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: Jeffy on June 10, 2010, 01:08:18 PM
what front could I pair with D60?

Also, do you think the 20 would make a solid front for 35-37 tires?
You could pair the D60 with a 3/4T D44.  Basically a beefed up D44 with D60 outer knuckles.  Or the other option is another D60.  You could use a 1/2T D44 as well, too.

The M20 from an SJ is pretty beefy.  Keep in mind that the Model 20 is larger then the D44 but smaller then the Ford 9".  The axle tubes are also pretty big on the SJ and the SJ uses one-piece shafts.  These are the main problems with the M20 on the CJ's but didn't plague the SJ's.  The only downside to a M20 is gear selection, which only goes down to 4.88:1.
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: enginethatcould on June 10, 2010, 01:22:46 PM
You could pair the D60 with a 3/4T D44.  Basically a beefed up D44 with D60 outer knuckles.  Or the other option is another D60.  You could use a 1/2T D44 as well, too.

The M20 from an SJ is pretty beefy.  Keep in mind that the Model 20 is larger then the D44 but smaller then the Ford 9".  The axle tubes are also pretty big on the SJ and the SJ uses one-piece shafts.  These are the main problems with the M20 on the CJ's but didn't plague the SJ's.  The only downside to a M20 is gear selection, which only goes down to 4.88:1.
You could pair the D60 with a 3/4T D44.  Basically a beefed up D44 with D60 outer knuckles.  Or the other option is another D60.  You could use a 1/2T D44 as well, too.


I am trying to finish grabbing parts for a turbo/comp cut/SOA/stretch. I am at lost for axles right now, but know I want to run 35-37" tires. From what I have read, the d30 will not tolorate that big of a tire. I was originally thinking of doing the 8.8 out back and keeping the stock front.

The M20 from an SJ is pretty beefy.  Keep in mind that the Model 20 is larger then the D44 but smaller then the Ford 9".  The axle tubes are also pretty big on the SJ and the SJ uses one-piece shafts.  These are the main problems with the M20 on the CJ's but didn't plague the SJ's.  The only downside to a M20 is gear selection, which only goes down to 4.88:1.
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: enginethatcould on June 10, 2010, 01:27:17 PM
With the AMC 20 Being geared at a max 4.88, will it be enough to turn at least 35" tires?
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: FourbangerYJ on June 10, 2010, 01:59:34 PM
With the AMC 20 Being geared at a max 4.88, will it be enough to turn at least 35" tires?

yes, but if for some reason you wanted lower gears you couldn't with the M20.
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: Jeffy on June 10, 2010, 02:02:55 PM
With the AMC 20 Being geared at a max 4.88, will it be enough to turn at least 35" tires?
I'd say, if you're going to go through the trouble of swapping axles and regearing, you might as well go deep.  If you do some sort of forced induction or an engine swap then 4.88's would probably be OK.  Still, I'd probably buy the set and sell the M20 then look for a D44 or else get the D60.
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: enginethatcould on June 10, 2010, 04:53:54 PM
I think I am going to pull the trigger on the amc 20/d44. Does anyone know the length of these axles, as well as the deepest you can gear with the d44?
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: Jeffy on June 10, 2010, 05:23:32 PM
I think I am going to pull the trigger on the amc 20/d44. Does anyone know the length of these axles, as well as the deepest you can gear with the d44?
I think the front might be 61" or 62" and the rear is around 60.5".  I think the lowest is 5.92:1 on the D44.
Title: Re: Dana 44
Post by: FourbangerYJ on June 10, 2010, 07:27:32 PM
I think I am going to pull the trigger on the amc 20/d44. Does anyone know the length of these axles, as well as the deepest you can gear with the d44?

The AMC 20 can only be geared to 4.88. The LP D44 can be 5.89 a HP D44 can only go to 5.38.
Not sure on width.