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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: Jeffy on January 22, 2011, 06:27:28 PM
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Well, no rain. Still chance for a cold front to come in before March though. Won't know if my Jeep still leaks or not. I'm gonna guess not though as I'm 99% sure I got it sealed.
Been thinking tires and wheels again, which isn't good. 33x10.5R15's on stock 15x7 steel wheels. I'd imagine the Jeep looks very skinny. I missed a chance to pick up 5 15x7's of the same wheels pictured for $100. Gonna have to keep an eye out for them though. They pop up on ebay for around $30-50 but $20 for shipping.
Here's what I'm starting to see:
- Moab 15x8 - 5" BS
- 5-Spoke 15x7 - 5.25" BS
- KJ Steel 16x7 - 5.5" BS (some say 5.5" while others say 6")
Oh and I'm thinking about adding A/C to the Jeep. I've got to change my OBA a bit but I should be able to retain it which is important. Depending on how it looks with the 33's I might be able to remove the 1.25" body lift as well. Problem with 16's is that the wheels are a bit more expensive as well as the tires. 255/85R16's are 33.4x10R16's. .2-3" difference between the 33x10.5R15's and the 255's.
Unfortunately, I can't have a 'toy' which is why I'm thinking about going a different direction.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/otisdog4/My%20Jeeps/DCP_1083Medium.jpg)
Interesting how the look of the Jeep changes so much with new wheels and some spacers. Supposedly 15x8 5-Holes/Gamblers with 1.25" spacers. Same Jeep with the same tires.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/otisdog4/montezuma%2007/sj.jpg)
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33-10.50 KM2's would be my choice I think. Would the BS on the TJ wheels make the front tires rub the leafs at full lock?
You are right about a wheel making a big difference in how a ride looks. There is a mid 70's Ford LTD station waggon for sale near here. It has a set of 5 spoke Crager looking wheels and it makes it look real cool. With a set of stock wheels it would be lame.
Do you think any of the yards would have a set of wheels?
Keep looking on the boards. It took me over a year to find my wheels. They came with a set of swampers. I sold the swampers and the wheels only cost me $50 for the set of 5. I'll keep an eye out.
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33-10.50 KM2's would be my choice I think. Would the BS on the TJ wheels make the front tires rub the leafs at full lock?
You are right about a wheel making a big difference in how a ride looks. There is a mid 70's Ford LTD station waggon for sale near here. It has a set of 5 spoke Crager looking wheels and it makes it look real cool. With a set of stock wheels it would be lame.
Do you think any of the yards would have a set of wheels?
Keep looking on the boards. It took me over a year to find my wheels. They came with a set of swampers. I sold the swampers and the wheels only cost me $50 for the set of 5. I'll keep an eye out.
The turn stops might need to be adjusted but since the tires are 2" narrower you have that to play with. There aren't that many vehicles with usable steel wheels. The Crown Vic P71's, Mustang, Ranger, Explorer, Chrysler 300, etc... The problem with many are that they have a lot of negative offset. Also most are only 7" wide as well. Although that's not a problem for skinny's. I saw a set of 5-spoke YJ/TJ wheels on CL for $150 for a set of 5. I should have jumped on it. I set the Moab 16" wheels for $250 go as well. I might get lucky and fond some KJ steel wheels though. I would think they might be the easier to find since there have been a lot of KJ's on the roads but I haven't seen many wheels offered. I've also seen some older 6-spoke wheels from YJ's offered as well as the 9-Slot 15x6's. I already have a set of 15x6's and although they can accept the 33x10.5's I'd like to go wider so teh sidewalls aren't pinched as much.
I think sticking with 15's would be the easiest. Also gives me .5" more width then thee 255.
I'm trying to find wheels for less then $30 each. I can get Black Rock Wheels for $56-64 each (15" 4.5" - 4.75" BS 16"4"-4.5". Those are some of the cheapest that are still made in the US. Crager was bought out my Unique so they aren't the same company anymore. ARE 767's are nice but not for $75.
Oh, I've also noticed it's harder to find YJ's on skinny tires. I guess it's because not too many people with YJ's want skinny tires. Seems to be very common on XJ's and fairly common on TJ's.
And they patter is used on Dodge Chargers, Magnums and Caravans's as well. Would be nice to get a list of vehicles and BS/Offsets going. Minor problems that could come up is the center bore ID which could be drum sanded.
Found some Chrysler 300 but it's all 17-20". I'm not 100% sure if the spare is 16" or 17".
44 2005 Chrysler 300C RWD 5x4.53in - 5x115mm Medium OE 17 & 18in 71.50 14mmx1.5 19-24in 15-25mm
45 2006 Chrysler 300C RWD 5x4.53in - 5x115mm Medium OE 17-20in 71.50 14mmx1.5 21-24in 15-25mm
46 2007 Chrysler 300C RWD 5x4.53in - 5x115mm Medium OE 17-20in 71.50 14mmx1.5 21-24in 15-25mm
47 2008 Chrysler 300C RWD 5x4.53in - 5x115mm Medium OE 17-20in 71.50 14mmx1.5 21-24in 15-25mm
48 2008 Dodge Challenger 5x4.53in - 5x115mm Medium OE 20in 71.50 14mmx1.5 21-24in 15-25mm
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My 2001 KJ has 16's.
I would think a trip to your local yard should produce something. I don't know what they get for wheels. But the 15's are getting harder to find!
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http://ventura.craigslist.org/pts/2106668367.html
Here is some 16's.
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S.No Year Make Model Bolt Pattern Vehicle Offset OE Wheel Size Center Bore STUD Size Size Up Wheels Offset
1 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 71.50 1/2in-RH 17-22in 15-25mm
2 1987 Nissan 300ZX 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 66.10 12mmx1.25 17-18in 15-25mm
3 1988 Nissan 300ZX 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 66.10 12mmx1.25 17-18in 15-25mm
4 1989 Nissan 300ZX 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 66.10 12mmx1.25 17-18in 15-25mm
5 2008 Ford Ranger 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 70.60 1/2inx20 17-22in 15-25mm
6 2007 Ford Ranger 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 70.60 1/2inx20 17-22in 15-25mm
7 2006 Ford Ranger 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 70.60 1/2inx20 17-22in 15-25mm
8 2005 Ford Ranger 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 70.60 1/2inx20 17-22in 15-25mm
9 2004 Ford Ranger 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 70.60 1/2inx20 17-22in 15-25mm
10 2003 Ford Ranger 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 70.60 1/2inx20 17-22in 15-25mm
11 2006 Jeep Wrangler 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 71.50 1/2inx20 17-24in 15-25mm
12 2005 Jeep Wrangler 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 71.50 1/2inx20 17-24in 15-25mm
13 2004 Jeep Wrangler 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 71.50 1/2inx20 17-24in 15-25mm
14 2003 Jeep Wrangler 5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm Medium OE 15 & 16in 71.50 1/2inx20 17-24in 15-25mm
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My 2001 KJ has 16's.
I would think a trip to your local yard should produce something. I don't know what they get for wheels. But the 15's are getting harder to find!
What's the offset/BS on those? I don't think some people know how to measure correctly.
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http://ventura.craigslist.org/pts/2106668367.html
Here is some 16's.
Those are 5 on 5 from a JK. I need 5 on 4.5"/5x114.3mm
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What's the offset/BS on those? I don't think some people know how to measure correctly.
I have no idea what the BS is.
You measure the BS by laying the wheel (no tire on) with the face of the wheel on the ground. Lay a straight edge across the wheel from edge to edge (lip to lip) With a tape or ruler measure from the straight edge to the mount surface of the wheel.
Let me know if your interested in those 16's. Or If I can find some 15's local. We can work out something to get them to you.
Never mind on those 16's :brick:
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Those are 5 on 5 from a JK. I need 5 on 4.5"/5x114.3mm
For some reason I was thinking 97, not 07. :fish:
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Here's a Rubicon running KJ 16x7's. Only 235/85R16's though.
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1274/dscn4630a1fb.jpg)
(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/635/dsc0031r7th.jpg)
(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8136/dsc0047c1pf.jpg)
(http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/5306/dsc0314r8cb.jpg)
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5558/dscn7387r1jv.jpg)
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http://ventura.craigslist.org/pts/2139412652.html AL Ranger wheels.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/pts/2168827765.html Not sure where these are located. Area code 310.
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I have no idea what the BS is.
You measure the BS by laying the wheel (no tire on) with the face of the wheel on the ground. Lay a straight edge across the wheel from edge to edge (lip to lip) With a tape or ruler measure from the straight edge to the mount surface of the wheel.
Let me know if your interested in those 16's. Or If I can find some 15's local. We can work out something to get them to you.
Never mind on those 16's :brick:
Really, you want to measure the offset and the backspacing as they aren't the same. The wheel width is measured from bead seat to bead seat and not rim to rim. The offset is measured off the inboard bead seat. The backspacing is measured off the rim though. So you get anywhere from .25"-.5" difference based on the thickness of the material and how the outboard flange is made.
(http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/images/wheels/wheel_diagram.gif)
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http://ventura.craigslist.org/pts/2139412652.html AL Ranger wheels.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/pts/2168827765.html Not sure where these are located. Area code 310.
I'm looking for steel wheels, OEM style.
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I'm looking for steel wheels, OEM style.
Aren't there a few styles out there?? My original ones were the 9-slot ones....
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/87821596_d947c5eb91_o.jpg)
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Aren't there a few styles out there?? My original ones were the 9-slot ones....
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/87821596_d947c5eb91_o.jpg)
I already have a set of those. I'd really like to get 7" wheels. Although I have thought about using the 15x6's if can't find decent 7's.
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Really, you want to measure the offset and the backspacing as they aren't the same. The wheel width is measured from bead seat to bead seat and not rim to rim. The offset is measured off the inboard bead seat. The backspacing is measured off the rim though. So you get anywhere from .25"-.5" difference based on the thickness of the material and how the outboard flange is made.
(http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/images/wheels/wheel_diagram.gif)
Your diagram shows the same as how I said. I see what you are saying thou. You could always subtract the flange thickness. Normally the straight edge method will get you close enough.
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You would need to subtract the flange length and rim thickness to get the correct offset. So that's probably .25"-.5" difference. Probably not big enough to worry about though. The difference between Moab's (5") and steel wheels (5.5"). Although I'd like to see someone measure the BS on the KJ steel 16's. If it's 6" then that's probably too close to use.
Here's another pic of the LJ with the KJ 16's. Looks pretty tight. Don't like the Rubi flares with the wheel offset though.
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/905/dscn81801qu.jpg)
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My KJ wheels are like these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Refinished-Jeep-Liberty-2002-2007-16-inch-Wheel-Rim-O-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem588c32986bQQitemZ380309248107QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Looking at them they are way to positive offset for a YJ IMO.
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A 235-85-16 is a skinny 33 right? Or is it closer to 32?
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A 235-85-16 is a skinny 33 right? Or is it closer to 32?
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp (http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp)
this will work for ya punch in the sized you want to check it and it will give you all the dimensions
just don't put in a compared tire and it will show you the specs of the one main tire you put in.
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http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp (http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp)
this will work for ya punch in the sized you want to check it and it will give you all the dimensions
Thanks. :thumb:
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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f125/15x7-steelies-5-a-1156177/
He says he won't ship but you never know. It sucks that most of these are back east!
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I did it quick it's almost a 32x9.25
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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f125/15x7-steelies-5-a-1156177/
He says he won't ship but you never know. It sucks that most of these are back east!
I have 4 of those rims I'm trying to sell at b.o would ship anywhere they need a bit of paint but wouldn't be hard to make them nice!!
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http://northbay.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-tires-rims-4-stock-jeep-rims-15inch-W0QQAdIdZ252999854 (http://northbay.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-tires-rims-4-stock-jeep-rims-15inch-W0QQAdIdZ252999854)
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Well, from what I'm getting 15x7's have 5.25" BS while the 15x8's run 5.5" BS. Although the exception are the Moab's which are 5" BS. Not in a hurry as I've got some time before I really need to make a decision. If I have to I could get them mounted to my 15x6's then change over to 15x7's later.
4" BS
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3607/dsc03259am.jpg)
Honestly, I wouldn't mind this but 31's are a bit small. Would be nice with my 4.56's though. I'll have to think about that though. I've got 5 of these in a shed out back. Not sure of the condition as they have been out there since '93. Might look funny with some skinny KM2's. Never seen KM2's mounted on them. Anyone else ever come across pics, feel free to post them.
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/TTzOF1C8PPI/AAAAAAAAO9o/RDdrteb64FI/IMG_1780.jpg)
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I've seen some 6-spoke 15x7's for sale on CL. For some reason I'm sorta liking the OE flares too.
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2277/dscn4325ba.jpg)
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Crappy garage pic, but 33x10.5x15 KM2's.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/njjeepthing/yj33105.jpg)
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Crappy garage pic, but 33x10.5x15 KM2's.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/njjeepthing/yj33105.jpg)
Do you know what BS those 5-Holes had? IIRC they were around 5.25".
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On AC, I had been thinking that too. Maybe AC and 4:88 gearing with the 31s I have now. But more likely the 4:88 gearing. Once I do, my Jeep could forever be sitting on 31s, since i'll get used to the driveability with the 4:88s.
By the next tire change, I might just stick with 31s for my existing Jeep, then buy a second jeep -- maybe a 4.0 YJ or TJ 5spd that's already built to run with 33s or 35s.
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On AC, I had been thinking that too. Maybe AC and 4:88 gearing with the 31s I have now. But more likely the 4:88 gearing. Once I do, my Jeep could forever be sitting on 31s, since i'll get used to the driveability with the 4:88s.
By the next tire change, I might just stick with 31s for my existing Jeep, then buy a second jeep -- maybe a 4.0 YJ or TJ 5spd that's already built to run with 33s or 35s.
Well, yes and no. I'd probably do 4:88s on 31s on the 4banger, then get a 4" lift, etc. and 33MTs for next tire change with that gearing, then maybe see if i could, at that point, squeeze a little more out of the engine (electric fan, headers, intake manifold grind)
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Well, yes and no. I'd probably do 4:88s on 31s on the 4banger, then get a 4" lift, etc. and 33MTs for next tire change with that gearing, then maybe see if i could, at that point, squeeze a little more out of the engine (electric fan, headers, intake manifold grind)
Unless you're going to do some harder trails you really don't need 33's. 4" with 31's will get you pretty far especially with a locker. Tuck the transfer case up and add some engine skids and you'll be good. If you think you're hurting for performance with 31's on there then you'll have a rude awakening with 33's. The lift will hurt you as much as the tires though.
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BTW: I measured my 15x6's. They're 5.5" BS with a +50mm offset.
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Ugh, some guy near me is selling Moab's with the stock tires for $300... Very tempting!
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Unless you're going to do some harder trails you really don't need 33's. 4" with 31's will get you pretty far especially with a locker. Tuck the transfer case up and add some engine skids and you'll be good. If you think you're hurting for performance with 31's on there then you'll have a rude awakening with 33's. The lift will hurt you as much as the tires though.
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BTW: I measured my 15x6's. They're 5.5" BS with a +50mm offset.
The harder trails were the idea for the 33s down the road
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The harder trails were the idea for the 33s down the road
Then I'd do skinny 33's and not 12.5's. Most trails should be doable with 31's and some good driving. 33's if you want a little easier time.
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Here are some specs for the BFGoodrich KM2's in a few of the common sizes that we'd see on Jeeps.
Size 215/75R15 235/75R15 31X10.5R15 33X10.5R15 33X12.5R15 35X12.5R15
Max Load 1765 lbs. 1985 lbs. 2270 lbs. 2600 lbs. 2205 lbs. 2535 lbs.
Max. Inflation Press. 50 psi 50 psi 50 psi 50 psi 35 psi 35 psi
Tread Depth 18/32" 18/32" 19/32" 19/32" x 20/32"
Tire Weight 34lbs. 40lbs. 45lbs. 49lbs. 58lbs. 61lbs.
Rim Width Range 5.5-7" 6-7" 7-9" 7-9" 8.5-11" 8.5-11"
Meas. Rim Width 6" 6.5" 8.5" 8.5" 10" 10"
Sect.Width 8.5" 9.3" 10.5" 10.5" 12.5" 12.5"
Tread Width 6.7" 7" 7.7" 7.7" 9.8" 9.4"
Overall Diam. 27.9" 29.1" 30.8" 32.8" 32.8" 34.8"
Revs Per Mile 746 715 675 634 634 598
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Here's some other FAQ's I've found. Supposedly Ford Explorer/Ranger/Mountaineer wheels have an offset of +12mm.
Here's a list of all makes that seem to fit a Ford Ranger. They don't say anything about BS or Offset though. They all share the 5 on 114.3mm (aka: 5 on 4.5") bolt pattern though. Also, 1998+ 4x4 Ranger's have hubcentric wheels so I doubt they will fit on the Jeeps axles without some milling or a sanding drum as wheels on Jeeps are lugcentric so the center bore doesn't have to be as precise. I would also think many of the newer cars are similar.
Make Model Years
Acura Legend 1991-99
RSX *
AMC Most models (exc. Jeep) 1940-89
Ambassador 1960-83
American 1960-83
AMX 1960-83
Classic 1960-83
Concord 1960-83
Eagle (4×4) 1980-89
Gremlin *
Hornet 1960-83
Javelin 1960-83
Marlin 1960-83
Matador 1960-83
Pacer 1960-83
Rambler 1960-83
Rebel 1960-83
Spirit 1960-83
SX4 (4×4) 1980-89
Chrysler/DeSoto All full size RWD cars (exc. Imperial) 1937-89*
300 1958-88
Concorde 1993-99
Cordoba 1975-83
Custom 1958-88
Fifth Avenue 1985-89
Imperial 1974-83
Le Baron 1978-81
New Yorker 1958-88
1993-99
Newport 1958-88
Sebring 1995-99*
Town & Country 1958-88
Datsun/Nissan 1600-2000 1965-73
300ZX, 200SX V6 (some) to 1989
Dodge All full size cars 1937-89*
A100 1963-71
Aspen 1973-80
Avenger 1995-99
B100 1972-86
B200 1974-85
Caravan 1987-99
Challenger 1957-77
Charger 1957-77
Coronet 1957-77
D100 1972-86
D200 1974-85
Dakota 1987-90
Dart 1973-80
Demon 1973-80
Diplomat 1978-89
Interpid 1993-99
Magnum 1957-77
Mirada 1975-83
Monaco 1957-77
1990-92
P200 1974-85
Polara 1955-77
Ram 150 (ex HD) 1972-86
Ram 250 (ex HD) 1974-85
Ram Charger 1974-85
Sport 1973-80
St. Regis 1975-83
Swinger 1973-80
Volare 1973-80
W100 1972-86
Eagle Talon 1989-97
Vision 1993-97
Ford All full size cars 1949-72
1979-85
Aerostar 1986-97
Bronco II 1983-90
Crown Victoria 1979-Current
Country Squire All Years*
Custom 1965-85
Explorer 1991-Current
F-100 1980-85
Fairlane 1962-79
Falcon 1968-71
Futura 1965-85
Glaxie 1965-85
Granada All Years*
LTD 1971-80*
Maverick 1971-80
Monarch All Years*
Mustang 1965-73
SVO 1985-86
1994-Current
Mustang II 1974-78
Probe 1989-98
Ranchero 1968-84
Ranger All Years
Thunderbird 1955-71
1977-79
Torino 1971-80
Hudson All 1948-56
Jeep Cherokee (XJ) 1984-01
Wagoneer (XJ) 1984-89
Brairwood (XJ) 1984-91
Comanche (MJ) 1984-92
Grand Cherokee (ZJ) 1993-98
Wrangler (YJ) 1987-95
Wrangler (TJ) 1997-06
Liberty (KJ) 1902-present
Lexus SC430 *
Other Lexus *
Lincoln All 1970-72
1980-89
Aviator 1902-Current
Continental 1986-Current
Mark III-VII All Years*
Town Car All Years*
Mazda 323 1981-89
626 1987-99
B-Series 1994-Current
GLC 1981-89
Millenia 1994-97
MPV 1984-95
MX6 1986-99
Navajo 1991-95*
RX7 (any 5 lug car)
Mercury All full size cars 1952-54
1961-72
1979-85
Capri All Years
Colony Park All Years*
Comet 1971-80
Cougar 1967-79
Grand Marquis All Years*
Marauder 1902-Current
Meteor All Years*
Monarch 1971-80
Montclaire All Years*
Monterey All Years*
Montego All Years*
Parklane All Years
Villager 1989-97
Mitsubishi 3000 GT All Years*
Diamante 1991-02
Eclipse 1990-02
Galant 1999-02
Nissan 240SX 1995-99
300ZX 1990-96
Altima 2002*
Maxima 1989-02
Plymouth All full size cars 1937-89
Barracuda 1970-74
Belvedere 1957-80
Duster 1973-80
Fury 1957-80
Laser 1989-96*
Satellite 1957-80
Savoy 1957-80
Scamp 1973-80
Trail Duster (ex 4×4) 1974-85
Valiant 1973-80
VIP 1957-89
Volare 1973-80
Voyager 1988-95
Pontiac Tempest, LeMans 1961-63
Studebaker All 1951-66
Toyota 2WD P.U. 1969-89
Camry 1992-99
MR2 1991-99
Previa 1991-95
Supra 1986-91
Volvo 122 All Years*
1800 All Years*
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Been browsing POR. It's funny how you're a noob if you're not rolling on 37's or bigger. in the picture thread everone is trying to top the next guy.
Found a pic of a '94 with 31's. I didn't realize the 6-Spoke wheels were used well into the 2000's.
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2196/dsc03475ax7.jpg)
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Found a pic of a '94 with 31's. I didn't realize the 6-Spoke wheels were used well into the 2000's.
:uhoh: the ones in the picture have 5 spokes :uhoh:
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:uhoh: the ones in the picture have 5 spokes :uhoh:
Yeah, they're 5-Spokes. The 6-spokes weren't available on the TJ just XJ.
Here's a 6-spoke YJ
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/TUIAzC1mJNI/AAAAAAAAO-s/c60nTzvzutA/s800/dscn4325ba.jpg)
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4 inch lift and 36's
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/FourbangerYJ/JeepLift023.jpg)
I found it in this thread. I skipped around a bit since it's a huge thread. There might be more in there on stock wheels.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/how-will-my-jeep-look-xx-tires-x-x-lift-109455/
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Yeah, they're 5-Spokes. The 6-spokes weren't available on the TJ just XJ.
Here's a 6-spoke YJ
i like the 6 spoke better. I think they would look nice flat black rather than silver.
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4 inch lift and 36's
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/FourbangerYJ/JeepLift023.jpg)
I found it in this thread. I skipped around a bit since it's a huge thread. There might be more in there on stock wheels.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/how-will-my-jeep-look-xx-tires-x-x-lift-109455/
Wow, those are huge.
I'm torn between the 5 and 6 spokes. The 5 spokes would be easier to clean since it's a flush face. The 6 spokes are a bit more retro.
I've been tempted to go down to 31's since there are so many more choices in tires BUT that's a big jump.
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I'm torn between the 5 and 6 spokes. The 5 spokes would be easier to clean since it's a flush face. The 6 spokes are a bit more retro.
I like the look of the larger windows of the 5 spoke.
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I like the look of the larger windows of the 5 spoke.
The 6 spokes look good with the 31x10.5R15's though.
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OE 5-Spokes 15x7
(http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/4190/2604799920101986741S600x600Q85.jpg)
(http://home.wideopenwest.com/~phenk7700/kc1.jpg)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/696/cherokeefeb09269.jpg)
(http://members.cox.net/huddy31/039.jpg)
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7669/jeep62607014qo5.jpg)
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OE 5-Hole 15x8
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/kensan1/Jeep/TSF%20082308/DKSlyders-1.jpg)
ProComp Series 8069 15x8
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5201/5311210243_75813bc622_b.jpg)
ProComp series 97 15x8
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv69/Iceman3535/100_0345.jpg)
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Those OE wheels look pretty good painted a dark color.
Why are you looking for a OE wheel? Does the aftermarket not have something you like?
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Those OE wheels look pretty good painted a dark color.
Why are you looking for a OE wheel? Does the aftermarket not have something you like?
Mainly cost but also looks. Everyone eventually goes to the aftermarket wheels. Rarely do people stick with OE. The problem with a lot of aftermarket wheels is that they have BS at 3.75" or maybe 4" if you're lucky. I priced Black Rock Wheels at $56 each. (They have a 4.75" BS with a 15x7) BRW is US made. Actually made here in CA. An OE can usually be bought for $25 or less. A set of 5 for around $150-200.
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Mainly cost but also looks. Everyone eventually goes to the aftermarket wheels. Rarely do people stick with OE. The problem with a lot of aftermarket wheels is that they have BS at 3.75" or maybe 4" if you're lucky. I priced Black Rock Wheels at $56 each. (They have a 4.75" BS with a 15x7) BRW is US made. Actually made here in CA. An OE can usually be bought for $25 or less. A set of 5 for around $150-200.
Makes sense.
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I'm torn between the 5 and 6 spokes. The 5 spokes would be easier to clean since it's a flush face. The 6 spokes are a bit more retro.
The 5 spokes have a lip where the center meets the rim that will catch ice/mud and makes the out of balance, and they are hard to clean bacause of the lip. just something else to think about.
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Mainly cost but also looks. Everyone eventually goes to the aftermarket wheels. Rarely do people stick with OE. The problem with a lot of aftermarket wheels is that they have BS at 3.75" or maybe 4" if you're lucky. I priced Black Rock Wheels at $56 each. (They have a 4.75" BS with a 15x7) BRW is US made. Actually made here in CA. An OE can usually be bought for $25 or less. A set of 5 for around $150-200.
Wait, what's wrong with 3.75
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Wait, what's wrong with 3.75
They push the tire outboard unnecessarily. 3.75" is OK if you're running 35's or larger as you need the extra width to allow for the tires to turn. It doesn't mean you can't run 3.75's but on smaller tires it's unnecessary. 31's and 3.75" BS really allow you to see how far they push the tires outboard as you will no doubt need extended flares if you want any tire coverage.
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I have 4 of those rims I'm trying to sell at b.o would ship anywhere they need a bit of paint but wouldn't be hard to make them nice!!
sold them
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Well, there's a guy locally selling 5 Rubicon Moab 16's with good tires got $550. Then there's another guy selling 4 5 spoke steel wheels with some crappy throw away tires for $275.
The Moab's are tempting even if they are 31's.
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Here's a YJ with KJ wheels. Looks pretty tight. I don't think you'd want to run anything larger then 31's on them.
(http://www.yankeetoys.org/lee/jeep-tire.jpg)
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Here's a YJ with KJ wheels. Looks pretty tight. I don't think you'd want to run anything larger then 31's on them.
(http://www.yankeetoys.org/lee/jeep-tire.jpg)
That is way to positive offset IMO.
Buy the Moab's sell the tires. That is what I did, almost got free wheels. :naughty:
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That is way to positive offset IMO.
Buy the Moab's sell the tires. That is what I did, almost got free wheels. :naughty:
When I say it looks 'tight', I mean it physically looks too tight not the vernacular. :lol:
The SO doesn't like the Moabs but like the 5 and 6 spokes, I sorta do too. If I got the Moab's I'd probably drive on them since I don't really have the money to put into new tires. Spent that money elsewhere. :whistle: Although if I was going to roll on 31's I could just buy 31's and put them on ly 15x6's.
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These are really skinny. I don't think tehy even make tires this skinny anymore. Well unless you're looking at the old Military tires. Interesting 'Jeep' too. Mahindra from India. Looks a little goofy from the front with the tires so far outboard.
(http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/4x4-vehicles/48137d1221137814-jeep-buy-imga0158.jpg)(http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/4x4-vehicles/48138d1221137814t-jeep-buy-imga0160.jpg)
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These are 4.5 BS I did not want anything with a 3.75 BS. I did need to bring them out a ways cause of the width loss of the 8.8
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/919/1000200sn.jpg)
Shot at 2011-01-31
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Here's a YJ on 34x10.5R15 Interco Super Swamper LTB's. It's on a D44 front D60 rear. I like the axles and the wheels... Probably 15x7's for the wheels since they look OE. Axles are probably from a Cab & Chassis :thumb:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/TVX91crQcbI/AAAAAAAAPF4/xSViGkQJbcA/30.jpg)
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Here's a YJ on 34x10.5R15 Interco Super Swamper LTB's. It's on a D44 front D60 rear. I like the axles and the wheels... Probably 15x7's for the wheels since they look OE. Axles are probably from a Cab & Chassis :thumb:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/TVX91crQcbI/AAAAAAAAPF4/xSViGkQJbcA/30.jpg)
On that size tire it would be a axle dragger! Looks OK but that 60 or 14B is hanging low.
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On that size tire it would be a axle dragger! Looks OK but that 60 or 14B is hanging low.
I seen to remember that you can shave the D60 an inch or so without having to drastically cut into the housing. Then the clearance is about the same as the D44. Although I think I'd rather have a FF D44 rear I think. Too bad they are scarce now. They used to be all the rage before everyone started going 60 and 14.
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I seen to remember that you can shave the D60 an inch or so without having to drastically cut into the housing. Then the clearance is about the same as the D44. Although I think I'd rather have a FF D44 rear I think. Too bad they are scarce now. They used to be all the rage before everyone started going 60 and 14.
What does the FF stand for?
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Full Floating ... just came to me! Thanks
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The YJ I bought my son was running 32x10.50 swampers with a D60 rear when I met the owner (McRae). He hit everything on the trail with that set up.
Now as for the pizza cutters, do they still make the 33x9.50 MT?
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Do they even make 32x10.5's? I know they have 33x9.0r15's in the SS TSL and the 34x10.5r15's in the LTB's. I only saw his jeep with the 35's.
BFG makes 33's in 9.5 and 10.5's still. They also make a metric 255/85r16 which is a smidge over 33 and 10.0" wide
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(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/FourbangerYJ/yj.jpg)
Guessing 31's. This shot made me :roflol:
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yeah, that pic is for some reason funny, then I saw your comment
I also loving that anti-aircraft spotlight :lol:
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yeah, that pic is for some reason funny, then I saw your comment
I also loving that anti-aircraft spotlight :lol:
Not to mention the look on the drivers face, the dirt flying, missing snorkle, NERF bars :lol:
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[...] missing snorkle, [...]
don't think is missing, he probably has an adjustable airbox :wall:
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don't think is missing, he probably has an adjustable airbox :wall:
Looks like it's working, look at the wheels spinning and dirt flying! It's even catching air! :lol:
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(http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/09/kool-aid-man.jpg)
They look like 31's. That's a lot of wheel well opening for 31's though. Those are stock 9-Slot wheels as well. 15x6". Also looks like the sway bar is still attached, too. The lights seem to be the cheap utility lights from walmart.
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Another TJ on 33x10.5R15. Still not sure if I like the 5-spoke or the older 6-spokes though.
(http://www.pbase.com/image/27374341.jpg)
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don't think is missing, he probably has an adjustable airbox :wall:
HA! just caught that. Thought you had gone mad for a second and i was going to call you out on it.
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Anyone come across pictures of a 33x10.5R15 on a 15x6 9-slot. I'm wondering if there is enough clearance without having to add a spacer. Although I've even thought about going to 31's if gas prices remain high. I'd more then likely end up removing my body lift. Will have to turn in my hardcore merit badge though.
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(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/FourbangerYJ/RRC1-2-10018.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/FourbangerYJ/RRC1-2-10019.jpg)
I forgot I had these shots. I am pretty sure they are on a aftermarket wheel not a OE. But they are 33.10.50.
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(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/FourbangerYJ/RRC1-2-10018.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/FourbangerYJ/RRC1-2-10019.jpg)
I forgot I had these shots. I am pretty sure they are on a aftermarket wheel not a OE. But they are 33.10.50.
The flares are a dead give away that they're on 3.75" BS aftermarket wheels.
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Just picked them up. $100.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/TYJXdDzguuI/AAAAAAAAWjA/bG2VnKeNVTo/s576/DSC_0002.jpg)
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The flares are a dead give away that they're on 3.75" BS aftermarket wheels.
that's my guess too, 3.75 or 4 tops
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They look like they are in good shape. My spare seems to be on one like those.
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Just picked them up. $100.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/TYJXdDzguuI/AAAAAAAAWjA/bG2VnKeNVTo/s576/DSC_0002.jpg)
That is well bought. How long until your tires come in?
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They look like they are in good shape. My spare seems to be on one like those.
These wheels are supposedly from a '02 or '03. You can tell they are late model from the center cap. I was lucky to find some late models as I think they look a little better. The guy said they were only used a year. His friend bought the Jeep and upgraded tires. He bought them from his friend but used the tires only. There is a little surface rust but not really a big deal.
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That is well bought. How long until your tires come in?
National backorder from what I've heard. I'm in no rush though. I can wait for another sale at American Tires.
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These wheels are supposedly from a '02 or '03. You can tell they are late model from the center cap. I was lucky to find some late models as I think they look a little better. The guy said they were only used a year. His friend bought the Jeep and upgraded tires. He bought them from his friend but used the tires only. There is a little surface rust but not really a big deal.
Ah, so the center cap is attached on the new ones.
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Ah, so the center cap is attached on the new ones.
They use screws in the back like the older ones. Just different caps.
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That set of steel wheels you bought looks pretty good Jeffy. Next tire change I'm probably doing 33s with the 10.5 width on 4:88s; I'll probably just keep the tj alloys I've got now. Can't believe you're thinking of going to 31s...would you keep your lift the same?
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That set of steel wheels you bought looks pretty good Jeffy. Next tire change I'm probably doing 33s with the 10.5 width on 4:88s; I'll probably just keep the tj alloys I've got now. Can't believe you're thinking of going to 31s...would you keep your lift the same?
This Jeep is on 31x10.5R15's with 4" lift. If I remove my body lift, I'll be about 4". I'm going to go down to American Tires and see how long it will talk to get some 33x10.5R15 KM2's. I've got my existing tires on CL and have gotten a few email.
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/TTzOF1C8PPI/AAAAAAAAO9o/RDdrteb64FI/IMG_1780.jpg)
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That YJ looks pretty good with the 4" suspension lift and 31s. Looks like it wants 33s, but the 31s still look pretty good.
I noticed my Firestones Destinations only come in 12.5" width for the 33s. Do like those tires a lot, but I'd probably still find 33s in a 10.5, probably a different tire make/model, maybe KM2s or something. The KM2s are pretty well liked at TireRack http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORMT (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORMT).
Of course then you see this 4 wheeler piece http://www.fourwheeler.com/techarticles/wheels/129_1104_massive_mud_tire_shootout_intro/index.html (http://www.fourwheeler.com/techarticles/wheels/129_1104_massive_mud_tire_shootout_intro/index.html)and they are giving the headkooks top marks, at least for the trail they were running.
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Cut and paste from Discount Tire.
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Yeah, I went to American Tires and they said there were 5 KM2's in the country and they were most likely accounted for. They said I could wait 4-8 weeks but I know BFG is supposed tos tart making them again this month or maybe next so that might take a few months to get into the pipeline.
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Here's the official word.
"We have no stock available in the Mud Terrain T/A KM2 in a 33X10.50R15. We also have quite a few backorders. We apologize for the inconvenience. This size went back into production 3/20/2011. Please check back with us in a month. "
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I think the Super Swamper TSL Radials are available in that size...
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I think the Super Swamper TSL Radials are available in that size...
You can also get the TSL in a 33x9.50 or was it 34x9.50 for the ultimate in skinny tires, lol.
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The whole Interco lineup is pretty bad for lots of street driving.
They also make or used to make a 35 -10.50 I forget which flavor. I think that would be a great size. I wish the BFG line would carry that size.
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I think the Super Swamper TSL Radials are available in that size...
You can also get the TSL in a 33x9.50 or was it 34x9.50 for the ultimate in skinny tires, lol.
The whole Interco lineup is pretty bad for lots of street driving.
They also make or used to make a 35 -10.50 I forget which flavor. I think that would be a great size. I wish the BFG line would carry that size.
The closest is a 34x9.5R15 TSL and 34x10.5R15 LTB which do measure about the same as a Radial 35". I wouldn't want to run it on a daily driver though. Bias ply suck on road. They get flat spots overnight so you get square tires until they warm up. IIRC, they tend to harden up when really cold so they can slide around a bit more as well. Not to mention they wear fast. They're cheap but going though the hassle of replacing twice as fast as a radial kinda sucks as well. I know some guy's who get maybe 13-20K miles out of them with lots of street driving.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/TYPjO52EAQI/AAAAAAAAWl0/mjc2fR8ogNM/s512/DSC_0010.jpg)
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http://www.simextyres.co.nz/simex-article.asp?article=-2092972571&catpage=1&pagename=/simex-offroad.asp
These would be nice.
http://www.simextyres.co.nz/simex-article.asp?article=1453562063&catpage=1&pagename=/simex-offroad.asp
These would be really nice in the 36. I wish these could be bought in the US! :bow:
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http://www.simextyres.co.nz/simex-article.asp?article=-2092972571&catpage=1&pagename=/simex-offroad.asp
These would be nice.
http://www.simextyres.co.nz/simex-article.asp?article=1453562063&catpage=1&pagename=/simex-offroad.asp
These would be really nice in the 36. I wish these could be bought in the US! :bow:
I don't think they're heard of outside of NZ and AU. Those are bias ply tires as well. I suspect they won't import them because Interco has that market in the US as well as some other countries.
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I don't think they're heard of outside of NZ and AU. Those are bias ply tires as well. I suspect they won't import them because Interco has that market in the US as well as some other countries.
Years ago I contacted Simex to see how I could get a set. They said they would sell me a set but they were offroad only. They are not US. DOT approved.
I think they are bias, but they might have some radials too. Maybe not in as many sizes or models.
They are popular in the Philippines too. I thought in South America but I am guessing there.
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Years ago I contacted Simex to see how I could get a set. They said they would sell me a set but they were offroad only. They are not US. DOT approved.
I think they are bias, but they might have some radials too. Maybe not in as many sizes or models.
They are popular in the Philippines too. I thought in South America but I am guessing there.
No reason for getting them DOT approved if they're not marketing them here. I'd rather go with some SS TSL's thought for availability and cost. I think all of the TSL's are made in the US while the LTB's are made in Mexico. All of the skinny tires other then the 3 tires in the SS Narrow are LTB's.
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No reason for getting them DOT approved if they're not marketing them here. I'd rather go with some SS TSL's thought for availability and cost. I think all of the TSL's are made in the US while the LTB's are made in Mexico. All of the skinny tires other then the 3 tires in the SS Narrow are LTB's.
I know some of there lineup is made in the US. Others were made over seas (China or Malaysia) or something like that. I am sure they work with tire plants all over the world. I would like more choices in tall skinny's. I guess there is a small market.
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I have the ss tsl radials and when the odometer hits 60,000 miles(160 miles away)I will have had them on for 14,000 miles,and the tread wear right now is about an eigth lost.I know this because I have a matching spare that has never hit the road.The fronts will get wavy if you dont rotate them every 5,000 miles ???They are a better tire then poeple give em credit for.Way better than the bias ply (as far as mileage)that I have owned in the past.
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I know some of there lineup is made in the US. Others were made over seas (China or Malaysia) or something like that. I am sure they work with tire plants all over the world. I would like more choices in tall skinny's. I guess there is a small market.
Skinny and tall tires are popular everywhere else but the US it seems. I think one of the problem is that everyone wants their truck to be big. So you either get people going up to 31x10.5R15's or the like and not going further or you get people going to 33x12.5R15's or larger. Seems that the skinny tires are also more popular with the import trucks like the Taco's, Hardbodies, etc... BFG even went to far as to produce a 31x12.5R15 to give 'the look' to Jeep owners. Iv'e only seen those tires on one Jeep and it looked bad.
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Skinny and tall tires are popular everywhere else but the US it seems. I think one of the problem is that everyone wants their truck to be big. So you either get people going up to 31x10.5R15's or the like and not going further or you get people going to 33x12.5R15's or larger. Seems that the skinny tires are also more popular with the import trucks like the Taco's, Hardbodies, etc... BFG even went to far as to produce a 31x12.5R15 to give 'the look' to Jeep owners. Iv'e only seen those tires on one Jeep and it looked bad.
I remember those BFG's. IIRC they were a metric something like 325-60-15.
AG tires are tall and skinny. It would be cool to find something that would work. Prolly ride like :crap: on the street. Doubt they would hold up at speed.
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I remember those BFG's. IIRC they were a metric something like 325-60-15.
AG tires are tall and skinny. It would be cool to find something that would work. Prolly ride like :crap: on the street. Doubt they would hold up at speed.
They had both LT and Metric for some reason. I think both were 15's.
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Here's a bump for people looking for OE steel wheels. Not Jeep OE but those 60/70 era steel 4-slot wheels that you could get on most cars back in the day.
www.yearone.com
(http://onlyoldiesgarage.com/xcart/images/P/63---OE-Chrysler-Satin2.jpg)
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They also make 6 slot Police wheels.
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Yeah, I wonder how the tsl 33x950's would do on stock Grizzly wheels, I bet it'd look pretty nice.
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Yeah, I wonder how the tsl 33x950's would do on stock Grizzly wheels, I bet it'd look pretty nice.
Those are 15x7's with 5.5" BS. I think they would look fine. Preferred over 15x8's actually. The 9.5's are really skinny looking though.
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/wvheep/100_0814.jpg)
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hmmm how do you think they would drive?
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hmmm how do you think they would drive?
Like any bias-ply tire really. They're going to be heavy as well.
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Those are 15x7's with 5.5" BS. I think they would look fine. Preferred over 15x8's actually. The 9.5's are really skinny looking though.
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/wvheep/100_0814.jpg)
I saw a parked TJ with those on 33 MTs. It looked decent. I also saw an old YJ Renegade on the same kind of ravine wheels I've got.
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I saw a parked TJ with those on 33 MTs. It looked decent. I also saw an old YJ Renegade on the same kind of ravine wheels I've got.
Yeah, I have those rims and I love em'. They're very strong+extremely light.
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I'll post a pic of my Jeep in this thread for posterity.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/Tb9xhQ9DAoI/AAAAAAAAX2o/0_Wa_kI30XU/s720/DSC_0057.jpg)
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I'll post a pic of my Jeep in this thread for posterity.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_NUT3v0pNW04/Tb9xhQ9DAoI/AAAAAAAAX2o/0_Wa_kI30XU/s720/DSC_0057.jpg)
2 Jellies and a large cup of coffee please. :lol:
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2 Jellies and a large cup of coffee please. :lol:
I had someone yell at me about my tires when I was driving through town. :confused: :lol:
BTW: I installed an extra washer to the steering stops. I might need to add another but I'm not 100% just yet. I still to find a 39-40T speedometer gear that's not $40-90.
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I had someone yell at me about my tires when I was driving through town. :confused: :lol:
BTW: I installed an extra washer to the steering stops. I might need to add another but I'm not 100% just yet. I still to find a 39-40T speedometer gear that's not $40-90.
isn't that stock? what color is it though? Bounty might be able to help :stick: :wall:
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isn't that stock? what color is it though? Bounty might be able to help :stick: :wall:
No stock is 41T, which I have in there now.
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I hope this is not off topic, but I currently run 31s with 7in aftermarket rims and with my engine mods I am happy with my perfomance. If I went with 32s would it be a huge drop in performance with my lil 4 banger. It has 4.11 gears of course. O another thing will 32s fit on 7in rims? Thanks
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I hope this is not off topic, but I currently run 31s with 7in aftermarket rims and with my engine mods I am happy with my perfomance. If I went with 32s would it be a huge drop in performance with my lil 4 banger. It has 4.11 gears of course. O another thing will 32s fit on 7in rims? Thanks
Neither tires are really considered pizza cutters. Yes, you will feel a performance drop. 32's are one inch taller as well as one inch wider. They have more rolling and wind resistance as well. You will really want an 8" wide wheel. They will fit on a 7" but not optimal. Not to mention if you have stock 7" wheels, you'll probably have lots of rubbing.
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My 7in aftermarket rims set outward, as far as performance wise would it be alot of lost with the 32s? I would like to lift more and go with 33x10s, but right now funds are pretty tight for regearing and such. O even buying a new set of 31s for that matter. Dont laugh but I was even looking at dakota muds at pep boys. Any thoughts on a set. I think for now I will just stick with 31s but if dakotas are no good I will get some 31 KM2s but I will have to wait a bit more.
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My 7in aftermarket rims set outward, as far as performance wise would it be alot of lost with the 32s? I would like to lift more and go with 33x10s, but right now funds are pretty tight for regearing and such. O even buying a new set of 31s for that matter. Dont laugh but I was even looking at dakota muds at pep boys. Any thoughts on a set. I think for now I will just stick with 31s but if dakotas are no good I will get some 31 KM2s but I will have to wait a bit more.
Well, like I said, 11.5" wide tires are a bit much for a 7" wide wheel. You really want an 8" wide or wider. personally I'd go with 33x10.5R15's or even 33x9.5R15's over 32x11.5R15's but that's just me. If you don't want to lose performance then you will want to regear or stick with 31's.
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I would like to upgrade to 33x10s and regear. That will be my goal. For right now I will have to stay with my 31s. I do like the look of 33x10s, and by the way your rig looks like a nice set up. Thanks
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I'll give this thread a bump since I'm still thinking about it. I've found a couple different wheel types that I like and are vintage looking.
One is the Ford/Chevy type. I kinda like these for the look. They aren't as much of a dish like the second set. Though from what i've seen most Willy's used the dished version. These take a 10.25" hubcap. The other takes a 8.125" hubcap. I've seen some Kaisers with the Ford type wheel though. I'm not sure when or if they made a transition. Jeep stopped using steel wheels on the CJ's by 1970.
(http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/wvi-62-5734044_ml.jpg)(http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/wvi-14-5612334_sn_ml.jpg)
The Ford/Chevy are 4" BS while the other is 4.5". So the difference is .5" which does help keep the tires under the flares. My current wheels are 5.5" so that 1" difference will give me back some turning radius but will keep the tires under the stock YJ flares. It would be easier on a TJ since their flares are a little wider. Not to mention they have an even wider flare option with the Rubicon. Though I don't really plan on swapping flares so the 2.5" are probably a better fit. I wish the Ford/Chevy had .5" more BS since I like that a bit more.
I'm shooting for something like this Unlimited although these wheels seem to be custom made Stockton's which cost around $250 each. The BS looks to be around 4.5-4.75".
(http://i.imgur.com/ogdNBNe.jpg)
What do you think A or B?
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Here's a few older Jeeps with similar wheels.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/h1oAAOSwYIdWFpo4/s-l1600.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/h5sAAOSwiLdWCcuo/s-l1600.jpg)
For some reason this one has three different sets of wheels.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/aMEAAOSwKsRWFax7/s-l1600.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Y0QAAOSwFnFWDbHe/s-l1600.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Bo8AAOSwAodWE0mk/s-l1600.jpg)
And some Jeep Concepts from recent years.
(http://roa.h-cdn.co/assets/15/12/980x653/cn015_021jptrsarhum0b2cuccshvnrbg0jo4.jpg)
(http://data.1freewallpapers.com/download/jeep-j12-concept.jpg)
(http://image.trucktrend.com/f/features/news/2015/1504_we_get_handsy_with_the_2015_easter_jeep_safari_concepts/102717866/008-2015-easter-jeep-safari-concepts-staff-car.jpg)
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Was thinking about this thread when at my parent's place this weekend. got a picture of an original 46 CJ2a wheel,
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/46cj2a%20wheel.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/chardrc/media/46cj2a%20wheel.jpg.html)
and army trailer wheel (I believe the trailer was built around the time of the Korean war (wrong fenders for a WW2 trailer))
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/jeeptrailerwheel.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/chardrc/media/jeeptrailerwheel.jpg.html)
I kind of like the holes in the trailer wheel as it breaks up the face a bit. but it is a considerable larger diameter wheel than the CJ2a.
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Was thinking about this thread when at my parent's place this weekend. got a picture of an original 46 CJ2a wheel,
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/46cj2a%20wheel.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/chardrc/media/46cj2a%20wheel.jpg.html)
and army trailer wheel (I believe the trailer was built around the time of the Korean war (wrong fenders for a WW2 trailer))
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/jeeptrailerwheel.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/chardrc/media/jeeptrailerwheel.jpg.html)
I kind of like the holes in the trailer wheel as it breaks up the face a bit. but it is a considerable larger diameter wheel than the CJ2a.
That's one of the reason I like that rib where the hubcap clips onto. It breaks up the dish a bit.
The holes were definately M151-era. They used the same wheels. I know some Jeeper's are using 17" steel wheels which are spares for the Chrysler 300.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f231/bburckha/IMG_3448.jpg)
Nice thing about going with 17's is that you can use larger brakes. There's a BFG 34x10.5R17's that prefect for JK's.