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Title: alternator control field?????
Post by: cbrads1234 on March 09, 2011, 11:03:20 PM
hi my names cam i have a 91 yj which i have had for over a year now no problems but about two months ago the check engine light would come on and the volt meter would read low if i revved the motor up the meter would read right and check light would go off i did this for a about a month then the light came on and wouldnt go off i took the alternator off had it tested and battery to they both tested fine when i reinstalled them it ran fine again for about three days then light came back on and volt meter dropped to eight i replaced battery and alternator still showing low on volt meter and check engine light and battery is only showing 12.31v across post....any sugestions? i have tried about ten test i got at college off alldata online and cant figure anything out.......
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: sharpxmen on March 09, 2011, 11:37:38 PM
the field is controlled by the PCM

so i would say it's the alternator or the connector that goes in it (not making contact). Or worst case scenario the PCM

could also be the belt but you would hear it in that case.

what did the codes say?
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: cbrads1234 on March 10, 2011, 05:43:55 PM
with old alternator i got code 41 with new one on i got 47
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: sharpxmen on March 10, 2011, 07:31:04 PM
with old alternator i got code 41 with new one on i got 47

41 would point to bad alternator or worn brushes

47 means that although the field voltage varies from the PCM there is no voltage variation on the battery (12v+ feed to the PCM) so that can mean either a bad ground or bad connection on the charge wire coming from the alternator. I would take the Jeep to the store you bought the alternator from if the ground and connection is good as it could be something internal. doesn't sound like it's the PCM since it was detected an open circuit before and now has a different code (if it was the same it could have been the PCM).

You could also measure the voltage right at the alternator to see if it's higher than at the battery, that can clarify if it ground or "+" cable.
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: cbrads1234 on March 11, 2011, 01:19:41 PM
wow so i feel really stupid but i figured out what it was arked a wrench while takin the old one off and blew the two fifty amp fuses in under hood fuse panel so when i put the new one on the charge was not making it to the battery
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: sharpxmen on March 11, 2011, 02:35:28 PM
wow so i feel really stupid but i figured out what it was arked a wrench while takin the old one off and blew the two fifty amp fuses in under hood fuse panel so when i put the new one on the charge was not making it to the battery

there you go, so there was no connectivity on the charge wire to the battery - codes really help  :thumb:
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: cbrads1234 on March 11, 2011, 05:42:46 PM
yea seriously ha bad thing is im a certified master tech and that slipped by me....... :brick:
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: sharpxmen on March 11, 2011, 08:10:37 PM
yea seriously ha bad thing is im a certified master tech and that slipped by me....... :brick:

i have a pretty story about those 2 fuses too: I upgraded to an 136amp alternator and didn't upgrade the wiring, drained the battery right out (left the light on at work for 8 hrs), got a jumpstart from a coworker and the fuses would just keep blowing on me...
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: cbrads1234 on March 12, 2011, 07:24:15 PM
wow that interesting i was gonna upgrade and then i got to thinking about how i could possibly do that.......thanks for the help though man you can have all the certifications in the world and it helps to have someone else oppinion sometimes ...... you seen any other common problems on yj's cause im really just gettin into this jeep thing i been a muscle head the past fifteen years
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: Torch_Ind on March 12, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
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wow so i feel really stupid but i figured out what it was arked a wrench while takin the old one off and blew the two fifty amp fuses in under hood fuse panel so when i put the new one on the charge was not making it to the battery

yea seriously ha bad thing is im a certified master tech and that slipped by me....... :brick:

certified master tech who doesn't disconnect the batter to change a alt??
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: sharpxmen on March 12, 2011, 08:48:32 PM
Torch is also a certified tech  :wall:
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: Torch_Ind on March 13, 2011, 09:04:07 AM
Torch is also a certified tech  :wall:

LMAO  :roflol:  Thanks sharp
Title: Re: alternator control field?????
Post by: cbrads1234 on March 13, 2011, 04:58:04 PM
yea man i was very pissed at this thing cause when i got it .... it was fine now it one thing and another and i dunno why i didnt disconnect the battery