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Title: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: drunkencityworker on April 24, 2011, 10:15:13 PM
onna try and find a 70s ford housing and cut down to waggy or tj rubi width...any advice or mistakes that I should avoid????
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: st.chevrolet on April 25, 2011, 12:35:02 AM
Go here!
http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: drunkencityworker on April 25, 2011, 07:56:46 PM
Is there a difference between rubicon 44 aand waggy 44 inner axles? Is it just length.
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: sharpxmen on April 25, 2011, 10:27:30 PM
Is there a difference between rubicon 44 aand waggy 44 inner axles? Is it just length.

on the rubi only the center housing is D44, the tubes are D35 size or D30 for the front. still the axles are 30 splines but i think is the same bearing and c-clip in the rear as on the D35.
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: drunkencityworker on April 28, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
I am looking to cut down a hp ford 44 and the guy i know that does rhem likes to use tj rubi shafts.
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: aw12345 on April 28, 2011, 02:54:02 PM
Since you run a V8, you might be a lot happier in the long run with a HP60 out front
The U joints on the axle shafts in a Dana 44 are skimpy for big tires and a V8.
You are going to find that with hard wheelin you can pretty much granate those at will
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: Bounty Hunter on April 28, 2011, 09:20:45 PM
I am looking to cut down a hp ford 44 and the guy i know that does rhem likes to use tj rubi shafts.
What does he use for the outer shafts?

I'm cutting down two HP44's and using stock Waggy shafts.  One for the YJ and one for the MJ :dance:
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: drunkencityworker on April 30, 2011, 07:42:36 PM
I am pretty sure chevy or jeep outers and chevy brakes and spindle. They are most all 297 so should work. Hey bounty can u send me a pm with cost for cut down housing empty. You arnt to far of a drive.

Point is to have lockouts as weak link and make for easy trail fix. Damn dana 60too big ffor only 4.5 lift and 35s
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: Bounty Hunter on May 02, 2011, 11:30:11 AM
I replied to your PM.  http://www.gds4x4.com/ is the shop that quoted me $300 to remove the inner C's, cut to Waggy width, and weld the C's with proper caster and pinion angle.
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: aw12345 on May 02, 2011, 06:19:46 PM
Damn dana 60too big ffor only 4.5 lift and 35s
If you set the diff  covers of a dana 44 and a dana 60 side by side the dana 60 pumkin only hangs 1" lower than the dana 44. Is not an unsurmountable difference and it's a heck of a lot stronger. Or have a somewhat exotic axle built, a friend of mine had dana 44's with dana 60m outer ends on it, that is about the best of both worlds
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: Jeffy on May 02, 2011, 09:37:13 PM
If you set the diff  covers of a dana 44 and a dana 60 side by side the dana 60 pumkin only hangs 1" lower than the dana 44. Is not an unsurmountable difference and it's a heck of a lot stronger. Or have a somewhat exotic axle built, a friend of mine had dana 44's with dana 60m outer ends on it, that is about the best of both worlds
You can find those in the wild as well.  They're 3/4T Dana 44's.
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: aw12345 on May 03, 2011, 06:07:41 AM
You can find those in the wild as well.  They're 3/4T Dana 44's.
Not for the front, you cannot, they all have the skimpy U joints, that is the whole thing big U joints and 35 spline inners and  outers. Buddy of mine granated the stub shafts at will, never killed the lockout or so called fuse though.
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: neale_rs on May 03, 2011, 09:05:55 AM
How about a fabbed high pinion 9" with dana 60 outers?  That would be awesome.

Also, the JK dana 44s have bigger u-joints.
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: Jeffy on May 03, 2011, 10:32:38 AM
How about a fabbed high pinion 9" with dana 60 outers?  That would be awesome.

Also, the JK dana 44s have bigger u-joints.
Some custom shops have been making hybrid's for a while.  Ford 9" centers with Dana 60 outers.  They haven't been that popular though.
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: aw12345 on May 03, 2011, 04:12:21 PM
The JK Dana 44's seem to be a fairly popular swap these days, time will tell how well they hold up, they have weak tubes and inner C's though
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: Dylan on May 06, 2011, 07:32:02 PM
on the rubi only the center housing is D44, the tubes are D35 size or D30 for the front. still the axles are 30 splines but i think is the same bearing and c-clip in the rear as on the D35.
Just a note, the TJ/LJ Rubicon D44 is bolt in, not c-clip.  Additionally, the tubes for TJ/LJ axles rarely present a problem... the D35 housing flexing and the skinny stock axle shafts are the most common complaints/sources of failure.
Title: Re: hp dana 44 advice
Post by: sharpxmen on May 06, 2011, 08:39:24 PM
Just a note, the TJ/LJ Rubicon D44 is bolt in, not c-clip.  Additionally, the tubes for TJ/LJ axles rarely present a problem... the D35 housing flexing and the skinny stock axle shafts are the most common complaints/sources of failure.

you're probably right, i was most likely picturing the GC one. the tubes are still weak though regardless of the center they will flex, a truss would fix that problem. I have no idea why they used smaller tubes, beats me.