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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: RT on June 18, 2011, 01:44:15 AM
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So I just put e3 plugs in my jeep, and it definitely runs different. It doesn't feel quite as torquey and doesn't pull as hard. Runs quieter and smoother though. I was wondering what everybody thought about these plugs and if I should just pull them and put in the $2 copper stocks from pepboys.
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I have been using the E3 plugs as well. I think they are alright but really don't live up to all the hype about em. I will be changing them out soon to see if there is any difference.
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I have been using the E3 plugs as well. I think they are alright but really don't live up to all the hype about em. I will be changing them out soon to see if there is any difference.
it's hype
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Can't gap em either.
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I have one in my lawnmower and it runs great. :weee:
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I have one in my lawnmower and it runs great. :weee:
mahahaha any better mpg's or mowing power lol :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:
I think your the first person I hear of changing one in a lawn mower lol usually they outlast the deck :roflol: :roflol:
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I have one in my lawnmower and it runs great. :weee:
i assume it's a ride-on...
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These plugs suck d**k! I could barely do 70 floored when I normally can run 80+. I pulled them out and after less then a 100 miles they were discolored and blackened. Total waste of money, I'm super pissed. Don't buy these plugs ever..... get the $2 champions. That's what i just did and it runs GREAT! wtf stupid power block fooling me into buying crappy chinese products
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actually there was another thread for the same product, conclusion was the claims were unfounded and bogus.
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I think your the first person I hear of changing one in a lawn mower lol usually they outlast the deck :roflol: :roflol:
i assume it's a ride-on...
Lawn Boy, they run forever. It was the only plug Wal-Mart had for it.
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I put two E3's in a customers John Deere rider and switched em out with champions (recommended by Deere) the following year.
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wtf stupid power block fooling me into buying crappy chinese products
I don't trust anything the powerblock sells anymore they are paid to promote anything.. I got a Zoom performance clutch that they promoted for my jeep and it didn't even last 3 month. I put in a old used clutch from a buddy that had over 200 000km's on it and got 2 years out of it before it was warped so bad it shook my teeth out and had to change but still held the Zoom one wouldn't even hold my jeep on a slight grade in gear..
also I found out the warranty was 30 days after the fact as well. witch is why after spending 800$ on a clutch and flywheel I was left pockets empty and still needing a clutch & flywheel...
don't believe everything you see on tv..
I'm with the "keep it simple stupid"
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don't believe everything you see on tv..
Know also that the multiple electrode plugs that the TV and parts store guys pimp (think Bosch) will not work well on late-model Fords. Long explanation but trust me on this.
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black, warped, and discolored...you know that rainbow gloss color you get from metal when you start to melt it. That's the color of these plugs after 50 miles. I feel stoopid lol
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I tried E 3s plugs about 5 years ago when they were fairly new. My rig was more responsive, quicker down the highway, and then a BIG BACK FIRE and I lost power and sputerred all the way home. Pulled out the plugs and found one completely melted, and a piece of it missing. I put my NGKs back in. But my jeep was still running bad.Took it to my mechanic and he had to take the head of and install new piston rings, gasket, and remove foriegn piece of metal inside cylinder. I went round and round with E3 corporate office. In the end they did end up paying for my repairs. I have pics of bad plugs somewhere. DO NOT USE E-3s.
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I replaced the E3's with platinum Autolites this morning.
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Good for you, glad to hear that. I have been pleased with my NGKs, I have tried others like my horror story with E-3s, bosh with the four prong thinga migiga and always came back to NGKs. I have them gapped at .039, backed by accel 42,000 volt coil and 8mm wires. Autolites are good.
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I gapped the Platinum Autolites at .040 , MSD coil, Performance Distributors spark plug wires/rotor/cap. Got NGK's in the Explorer. Rockauto had the Platinum Autolites for $2.15 each.
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So I should be able to bump up from .039 to .040. I know it does not sound like much, but I have not tried that setting yet. I was also thinking of upgrading to magnecor wires. Have you heard any feedbacks on magnecor?
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I have over gapped a plug. It misfired on that cylinder. You will know if you have overgapped a plug. I have 35,000 volts in the MSD coil and .040 is fine.
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Ok, I have now driven 80 miles with the E3's out and the Platinum Autolites in. Significant difference. It feels more responsive and in the higher rpms, more powerful. I guess I had the E3's long enough to forgot what is was like to have "real" plugs in! My advice to anyone thinking of buying E3's is to stop thinking about it. They were good when I first put them in but over time (1 year) they diminished to average to less than average performance when compared to the Autolites I just put in.
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So If I am running good at .039 on my NGKs, I should just let it be then. I mean how much difference would I be looking at as far as performance. I currently do not have any misfires, good power all around with good mileage.
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I'd leave it alone. I have seen the debate go both ways. Some say it does increase the power others say no. In a 2.5L Jeep, with a good coil/plugs/ and wires, how much difference would it truly make to go from your .039 to lets say .045 ???
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Sounds good to me. But I probably will swap out my 8mm accel wires and try some magnacor wires. I have heard good things about them delivering full energy from your coil.
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I ran E3s for a few days and then detonated a piston. Could have been the fact that my head was cracked and i needed to dump more fuel for combustion and being a hotter plug.... That was waaaaay back when i first got the jeep. since then i've read E3s are all hype.
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More than hype, JUNK. It was not your cracked head or block, it was simply and clearly the E 3 plugs. I had a similar experience, also way back. I currently run a accel coil which is rated at 42,000 volts, accel 8mm wires, along with NGK plugs gapped at .039. I can probably run a bigger gap, but we will run test later. Also have many other mods under hood. About the only mod I do not have is electric fan or any type of chips. My rig runs good, quick, fast, good top speed and plenty torque. O yeah I only run a 2in BB with 31s and discos. Thinking of bumping up to 32s or 33s, but I am so happy with my performance and power. I will probably keep it the way it is until I can afford a coil lift, gears, and bigger tires. Money, money, money.
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First full tank of gas with the E3's out and the Platinum Autolites in resulted in slightly better MPG at 18.08
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I have not taking my MPG, but I know I can fill up the tank and get about 80miles to half a tank which of course take would be 160 Miles to a full tank. I forget how many gallons a 2.5L tank is. I believe its a 15 gallon tank, not sure.
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I have not taking my MPG, but I know I can fill up the tank and get about 80miles to half a tank which of course take would be 160 Miles to a full tank. I forget how many gallons a 2.5L tank is. I believe its a 15 gallon tank, not sure.
that's the wrong way to calculate mpg, probably how pple end up with 25mpg or 10.
you reset the odometer when you fill up, drive a while, fill up again and write down how many gallons went in, take the odometer reading and divide it by the number of gallons.
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Exactly, thats what I a saying, I have not calculated my MPG. I need to, thanks for the info. I will do that.
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I can fill up the tank and get about 80miles to half a tank which of course take would be 160 Miles to a full tank.
is what you said. Which is as Sharp said, the wrong way to calculate mpg. Sharpmxan, I calculate it the right way and it's STILL terrible. She hasn't been driven in about 3 weeks and i recon she's reaching her best MPG yet..prob around 20mpg...parked :lol:
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Thats good mileage, I gotta try it, maybe not.
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Well I wouldn't be posting till my tank was empty but.......I got the new plugs in and got slightly better MPG. On my fill up yesterday I decided to give the Jeep a double dose of Lucas fuel treatment. I have driven just over 150 miles and the needle is still partially to the right of the half tank mark. This is well on the way to being the best MPG yet!
:thumbsup:
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Wow thats pretty good, I get about 90 to half tank at best, but I also drive hard. I love the feel of its power and response. Gotta calculate my mileage to see what I actually get.