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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: chardrc on June 17, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
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I had hinted in another post that I sold my 1990 yj :'(. The short story is that I traded it in for a 2007 2dr Rubicon :driving:... the longer story is that after graduating college and getting a full time job I now have some money and figured it was time to upgrade to something a little more reliable and solid. the 1990 was running good but had allot of little things that I was always worried about that would prevent me from driving it any long distances. It never left me stranded but it had to be limped home multiple times because of the clutch slave cylinder going to crap even after replacing it twice (intermittent problem). The 2.5l had enough power for the freeway after the tb Sharp made but it blew oil out of just about everywhere because of the blowby and would most likely need a rebuild in the next 5 years (or it may have just lived forever these engines are tough, but a power increasing rebuild was always on my mind ever since finding this site). The windshield frame looked decent but was basically totally consumed by rust preventing any sort of soft-top being installed and was an entry point for water. There were a few other rust spots on the body but the main concern was the rear section of frame that started to get flaky with rust the last couple of years...
Anyways, before trading it in I took off the electric fan, cb, rear bumper, and finger throttle (still not sure how thats going to be useful with the fly by wire on the 3.8l). I didn't have time to remove the 50 mm tb from sharp, or test the tb spacer for it. If anyone has interest in this and can sweet talk sharp into machining another tb I can give away my stock tb and the tb spacer for free to anyone on this site.
The new to me rubi appears to be in near mint condition, no rust to speak of, interior is in good condition, engine runs strong. The 3.8 is much better suited for the 2dr than the 4 dr wranglers and gets the jeep moving better than expected from driving my dads 4dr. I must admit I was a bit bribed into buying the jk with a free longarm kit my dad decided not to install on the 4dr.
I was sad to see the yj go especially after performing so well in Texas in May (Then again the end of the first day the clutch pedal went limp (worked again after bleeding it) and at the end of the second day it refused to start until morning). But it can now go to someone else to enjoy a budget jeep that can take most any thing you throw at it if you know how to drive it. I stumbled across a picture of when I got it 7 years ago and its amazing how far its come (not on my computer will have to get the file uploaded).
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/IMG_4904.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/IMG_4906.jpg)
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Congrats! It was a clean looking YJ. Since you're moving up from a TBI 2.5L you won't complain about the 3.8L being gut-less. :lol:
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Congrats on the upgrade. You are quite a bit richer than me... I was looking at grabbing one of the 2012 Sport models because they were literally cheaper than some of the TJ Rubicons.
GET IT DIRTY!
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Congradulations :thumbsup:
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Nice upgrade over the old girl, congrats, modding time eh
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Congratulations! The new Jeep looks great. Looking forward to seeing the mods.
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its going to moab the end of July so I just need to decide how much more to dump into it (savings is running near empty now). Unfortunately the tires are brand new so i don't have the excuse to install the long-arm kit sitting in the shop to fit new bigger tires.... I think ill get some skid plates and wheel it as is for a while.... I must say with the idle at 500 rpm the 3.8 requires more gas to get going than the other manuals I have driven (other than the willys). with the 6 speed it feels like you are always shifting but keeps you in the power good (can see why people swap them behind the 2.4l and 2.5l).
my jeep search started by looking for a TJ Rubicon. But I couldn't find a manual TJ Rubicon that wasn't an unlimited or had body cancer as-bad or worse than my yj. Then the red rubi showed up on Craigslist for the same price as the nice tj Rubicons with auto tranys or the unlimited Tj's with manuals. still feels like cheating siting in a hard topped jeep with AC. need to get a soft top and run topless like a real jeep (softtop for those random rain storms).
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You can do most Moab trails with your Jeep as is
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still feels like cheating siting in a hard topped jeep with AC.
You won't feel like you are cheating in a hard top Jeep with no AC, you might feel like you are being punished!
With front and rear lockers, 4:1 TC and 32" tires, your Jeep is ready for Moab. Should be a lot of fun.
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Rocker guards might be a good investment though.
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Nice JK man.
Yeah rocker guards...
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Rocker guards might be a good investment though.
ya some bone head took the stock ones off (they are on the build sheet along with dual top group (soft top is long gone)). but that brought the price down some and opens it up for some aftermarket metal. :pot: I don't think bolting angle iron to the body would look as good on the jk as it did on the yj :fish:
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ya some bone head took the stock ones off (they are on the build sheet along with dual top group (soft top is long gone)). but that brought the price down some and opens it up for some aftermarket metal. :pot: I don't think bolting angle iron to the body would look as good on the jk as it did on the yj :fish:
Now's not the time to go cheap. :lol:
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well my Yj finally surfaced on Craigslist. looks nice after beeing detailed. looks like the dealer lined the interior (something i always wanted to do), got a new driver seat, and painted the windshield frame and hinges. he may have lined the rockers as well... we did end up having to put a winch back on before trading it in (but the m8000 turned into a m5000 ;))...
I ended up buying a soft top for the jk, ordered some poison spider rock rails and lights.. I must say the stock exhaust is far to quite.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/ctd/3113838385.html
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well my Yj finally surfaced on Craigslist. looks nice after beeing detailed. looks like the dealer lined the interior (something i always wanted to do), got a new driver seat, and painted the windshield frame and hinges. he may have lined the rockers as well... we did end up having to put a winch back on before trading it in (but the m8000 turned into a m5000 ;))...
I ended up buying a soft top for the jk, ordered some poison spider rock rails and lights.. I must say the stock exhaust is far to quite.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/ctd/3113838385.html
You're missing out on owning "a serious trail ready JEEP WRANGLER". :lol: I bet it's weird seeing it for sale.
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it is one of the wierdest feelings to see your jeep for sale.. he sure did use some wierd wording. i even write up all the mods on the jeep and he still messed around with it. like the Jensen rear speakers that last I saw were pioneer speakers and worked just fine. and throwout bearings... lol if it wasn't for that damn clutch throwout bearing I would have had a lot less frustration at the yj.
edit: and the soft top itself may need "some work" but the windshield frame needs a lot of work to allow the softop to attach to it little would anyone expect after the frame was painted to hide the rust weeping through. Its now on his website "No rust" if that was true I wouldn't have sold it (well would have been a lot less likely). It is the same windshield frame as you can see the chip in the windshield in 1 of the pics on his website....
http://reallynicecarsmn.com/1990_Jeep_Wrangler_Eden%20Prairie_MN_154230422.veh
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Well, now we know how much they fudge the descriptions. For example, the seller says "no rust".
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Good upgrade! It's gonna ride a lot better than the YJ. By the way, I've been reading a bunch about the JKs having dash fire issues. Should prob check to make sure all the recalls have been done. The t-case skid seems to also be an issue. I read about them trapping leaves and twigs and then catching fire. Youtube has a bunch of JK fire videos. Just something you should be aware of and prob should look into. Can't wait to see the upgrades you'll end up doing to it!
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Haven't heard about dash fires but I have heard the tcase skid firs. I think that was mainly for auto trans jks I think. The skids look aton smaller than on the yj as far as protection and being able to trap stuff.. will have to look into the dash fires.
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seen a JK Rubi at the wreckers with a burned dash and everything around it, didn't know it was a JK issue, thought it was just some problem with that one
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seen a JK Rubi at the wreckers with a burned dash and everything around it, didn't know it was a JK issue, thought it was just some problem with that one
stopped at the dealers place and saw the yj again. looks nice with the bedliner. he did the inside, rockrails, rear cross member and bumperets and tire career. he also repainted the top and painted over the rusty windshield frame. looks nice but i doubt the painted areas will last long knowing whats underneath it.. he thought it had an engine swap because "jeeps didn't have fuel injection until 1991" :roflol: had to set him straight on that one and that its normal for it to rev up and slowly go down to idle on start up because of how the tbi system works. After seeing my jeep he now wants tj fender-flares and moab wheels for his yj :pirate:
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seen a JK Rubi at the wreckers with a burned dash and everything around it, didn't know it was a JK issue, thought it was just some problem with that one
There are quite a few of them apparently. There was also an article about the fuse box (i think) allowing water to enter and causing fires that way. If you check youtube, there are quite a few JK fire videos.
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where are you guys reading about the jk dash fires? I haven't been able to find anything about dash fires... just alot about the auto trans boil over / trapped leaves fires.
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where are you guys reading about the jk dash fires? I haven't been able to find anything about dash fires... just alot about the auto trans boil over / trapped leaves fires.
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/investigations/Jeep-Investigation-147268385.html (http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/investigations/Jeep-Investigation-147268385.html)
that's one article
and a few others:
http://jalopnik.com/5898058/exclusive-nhtsa-to-launch-jeep-wrangler-fire-investigation (http://jalopnik.com/5898058/exclusive-nhtsa-to-launch-jeep-wrangler-fire-investigation)
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/feds-investigating-jeep-wrangler-jk-fire-risk-839221/ (http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/feds-investigating-jeep-wrangler-jk-fire-risk-839221/)
http://jalopnik.com/5894966/did-jeep-offer-an-owner-hush-money-to-keep-quiet-about-fire-risk (http://jalopnik.com/5894966/did-jeep-offer-an-owner-hush-money-to-keep-quiet-about-fire-risk) that one has CONSPIRACY all over it....spicy!! :pot:
anyway, give them a read, and look over your JK and make sure you're in the clear. Just wanted to make sure you had a heads up about it.
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first one was new to me. took a look at the fues box and as stated its not waterproof. but it is the highest up thing in the engine compartment. unless you are doing some serious water crossings and hitting them fast enough to splash water everywhere it should be ok. by the time that would get wet your air box would be filled and you would have other issues to contend with... on the topic of electrical boxes I got a Spod system for the jk with 6 rocker switched at the top of the windshield with a under-hood relay / fuse box for powering accessories. takes its power directly from the battery so doesn't overload the stock wiring system.. I have some LED lighting coming to make use of the fancy electronics.
The other links i had found before only really applies to automatic transmissions.
thanks for the heads up anyways. keeps me aware and our other jk is a auto so will have to keep an eye on it for debris. collecting on the skid plate.
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well the new jeep survived Moab (will upload pics in another thread soon) gotta say the 4:1 low range is realy nice. although i mist say the red rubi has less ground clearance than the yj. I stumbled across these pics of the yj when i got it and figured i would post for reference of where my first jeep started and where my second jeep started.
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/jeeps002.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/jeeps003.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/jeeps004.jpg)
I checked the website and my yj is still for sale. apparently his tacktics of clamming no rust aren't fooling everyone
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Yeah, but those JK's have a pretty flat underside unlike the YJ.
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The JK Rubicons are higher but some stock JKs seem to have a belly height of only about 8 inches :yikes:
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The JK Rubicons are higher but some stock JKs seem to have a belly height of only about 8 inches :yikes:
Less belly clearance then the axles?
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Evidently, in an article in 4wd and SU magazine, they published a 4" lift install and stated that the belly clearance had increased to 12" before installing the bigger tires.
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the jk is pretty flat underneath. the yj had the leafs to ramp up to the low belly pan.. its just unfortunity that the gas tank is the lowest thing under most of the jk and the skid does dent... the bottom of the gas tank is probably halfway up the axle tube maybe just above it...The towing receiver works as a good skid top protect the rear bumper from rock ledges.
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Sounds like the JK Rubicon is actually pretty high in the belly.
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well when i checked the dealer website last Monday the yj was listed as sold. when i checked the week before it was down to $4400 and he removed the winch and put on some stoker wheels and street tires. Finally got the locker sorted out on the jk and back on the road also.
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Looks good man! Thats what I plan to do in a few years or longer!
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Had a flash from the past today when browsing craigslist to find my old YJ. looks like it jumped the boarder to Wisconsin and made it to 170000 miles although i thought it was deep in the 16xK territory when I sold it so must have sat a lot. sad to see it is still on stock sized tires and probably hasn't been off-road since 2012. :'( :redx:
So if anyone wants a high flow Throttle-body for a TBI 2.5l you know where to find it. :wall:
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/cto/d/1990-jeep-wrangler/6352409926.html
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Kinda cool to know it's still on the road though.
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Definitely glad to see it is still running :driving:. Especially considering it was on its way to the junkyard when I got it. I looked back through my records and it had 163K on it when I sold it so it likely hasn't seen to much time in salt. I also realized the upper doors in the pictures are actually the uppers for the soft-top that don't really fit with the hard top (radius of the upper rear corner is wrong). Makes the sting of the overpriced soft uppers I got for it that got slashed come to mind again. Hopefully they can find a good buyer for it that keeps it alive and hopefully on the trials :beers: