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Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: 01amberfirewv on May 29, 2006, 06:21:24 PM
I think I am going to change the plugs and wires, should I stick with champion and mopar?
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: Guardian7 on May 29, 2006, 06:40:35 PM
Champion's are crap, stick with Autolite, bosch etc..
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: Jeffy on May 29, 2006, 07:10:51 PM
I've always used something other then Champion which are usually OEM.  I've run Accel U-Groove, Bosch Platinums, etc... and now standard AutoLites.  I've heard Champion truck plugs are pretty good.  Has to do with the copper.

I haven't had much luck with Platinum's.  I've read others don't have good results either.  One plug I'd like to maybe try is a NGK Iridiums.  THey are $$$ though.
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: Guardian7 on May 29, 2006, 08:44:49 PM
All the new trucks seem to be using Iridiums and they claim their good for 90K which may account for the big $$ they get. A few years ago while working as a mechanic for NASA Ames Dryden they provided Champion plugs for all our tune-ups and they would die really fast! Champion may have better performance grade plugs but I will never waste my money trying them.
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: Erik on May 30, 2006, 10:10:08 AM
my jeep runs MUCH better with champion truck plugs than it did with any other brand I've ever tried.  using accel plug wires also.... plug wires can get expensive but i notice no difference between the $39 accel's and the $80 msd's......
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: jeepers on May 30, 2006, 03:12:28 PM
Quote from: "Erik"
my jeep runs MUCH better with champion truck plugs than it did with any other brand I've ever tried.  using accel plug wires also.... plug wires can get expensive but i notice no difference between the $39 accel's and the $80 msd's......



I have had the very same experiance with Champion plugs, and have found that spending $$$$$ for plug wires is a waist of money also. (unless ya got to have pretty colors  :roll:  )
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: Jeffy on May 30, 2006, 03:26:41 PM
Quote from: "jeepers"

I have had the very same experiance with Champion plugs, and have found that spending $$$$$ for plug wires is a waist of money also. (unless ya got to have pretty colors  :roll:  )


You won't notice any difference unless you start increasing the gap of the plugs.  .035" is the stock gap.  Using the stock gap with perfromance wires will net you nothing.  I currently run my gap at .065" with no problems.
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: YJmechanic on May 30, 2006, 03:38:00 PM
i don't like champions.  At the dealership we pull the champions and run ngkr's.  I run the standard autolite resistors.  I do use the ngk iridiums in my suabru but that is a totally different animal.  My jeep probably has under 200hp and the subie has 400hp and needs the high fire plugs but the jeep may be a waste for them.
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: 01amberfirewv on June 15, 2006, 12:36:39 PM
Wal*Mart didn't have the standerd or coper autolite plugs for Jeep but did have platnums.  Are they any good?
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: Jeffy on June 15, 2006, 12:42:25 PM
I don't think you'll see any benifit with platinums.  Sometimes platinums can cause problems as well.
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: SMC4WD on June 15, 2006, 02:07:17 PM
On my Nissan, the only thing that runs good, no great, are the NGK Iridiums.  A sports car, or sporty engine loves those things...

On the Jeep, I just put in the NGK V-groove.  Now I haven't driven it since I put those in, so let's hope that there's a noticable improvement over the Champions that were in there for about 2-3 years...

I'm running a MSD ignition so I gapped them at .40, although I heard that I should have gapped them at .50.  So we shall see...
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: 01amberfirewv on June 16, 2006, 10:02:33 AM
I got MOPAR wires and NGK vpower plugs.  What is the required gap size and how many lbs should I trq the plugs to?
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: Erik on June 16, 2006, 12:43:35 PM
.035 gap

i usually just snug them and then give them about 1/4 turn at most
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: Jeffy on June 16, 2006, 01:43:41 PM
Quote from: "01amberfirewv"
I got MOPAR wires and NGK vpower plugs.  What is the required gap size and how many lbs should I trq the plugs to?


Look at the Emissions sticker under the hood.  It will tell you the propper gap.  As for tightness, I do it by feel.  (Seated + 1/8 turn)
Title: best plugs and wires
Post by: YJmechanic on June 17, 2006, 03:27:38 PM
that's a pretty good combo, you should be fine.