Topic: Got a question for you

[grumpygy]

  Jeep on Ice and 2 wheel drive, they real squirrelly.  Snow was mostly gone on some roads so took it out of 4 wheel drive.  Several times had the back end try to come around.  Worst almost had me cross the center line and it was a straight section of road.

  All I had to do was take my foot off the gas and steer into it and it straightened out.  But think I ripped out part of my seat when I got out of it.

[sharpxmen]

what's the question?

[grumpygy]

So has anyone else noticed this.  Each time I took it out of 4 wheel drive less than a mile later it was trying to drive its self.

[dwtaylorpdx]

Its a wide short wheelbase vehicle, and it has a LOT of engine braking. Its also geared low compared to most other vehicles,  It also usually has traction not snow/ice tires.. Which suck for Ice.. Basically leave it in 4 wheel drive if the road is wet.

Dave

[sharpxmen]

So has anyone else noticed this.  Each time I took it out of 4 wheel drive less than a mile later it was trying to drive its self.

it's pretty finicky on the snow or ice in rwd only (but for the latter so are all the RWD vehicles unless you have a lot of weight on the rear axle), if you get head wind you might end up spinning the rear, also side wind makes it unstable. If you don't have trackbars (with YJ) it's even more unstable (with lift and/or lift shackles). If you have ice on the road (or snow) you can keep it in 4wd, otherwise you mess up the t-case and gears if you drive it like that for too long (if there's grip take it out of 4wd).

[stan98tj]

it's pretty finicky on the snow or ice in rwd only (but for the latter so are all the RWD vehicles unless you have a lot of weight on the rear axle), if you get head wind you might end up spinning the rear, also side wind makes it unstable. If you don't have trackbars (with YJ) it's even more unstable (with lift and/or lift shackles). If you have ice on the road (or snow) you can keep it in 4wd, otherwise you mess up the t-case and gears if you drive it like that for too long (if there's grip take it out of 4wd).

I always drive it in 4wd when there's a bit of snow out. My jeep is awful in 2wd in the least bit of snow, but fairly unstoppable once it's in 4hi

[dwtaylorpdx]

it's pretty finicky on the snow or ice in rwd only (but for the latter so are all the RWD vehicles unless you have a lot of weight on the rear axle), if you get head wind you might end up spinning the rear, also side wind makes it unstable. If you don't have trackbars (with YJ) it's even more unstable (with lift and/or lift shackles). If you have ice on the road (or snow) you can keep it in 4wd, otherwise you mess up the t-case and gears if you drive it like that for too long (if there's grip take it out of 4wd).

So just a q here,, I've heard this for years, that it will "break" something.

I've worn out 3 4x4's, 250K+ miles on them and I drive in 4x4 any time I feel it gives me an advantage, even on stone dry pavement. I've never had to rebuild a transfer case. I've broke more power train stuff on my 2wd cars ..

So I'm starting to wonder, how much of the "its bad" is myth and legend and how much is real. Maybe a new thread,, but ya got me wondering..

ANybody? Thoughts?

Dave

[sharpxmen]

are you sure your quick disconnect works or your warn locking hubs are engaged? - just saying...

if your tires are worn evenly (or new), same pressure and you're not loaded in the rear its fine as long as you drive straight. once you start taking turns you'll break something. You can test this easily, go in your preferred mall/walmart/etc parking lot, shift in 4wd and start driving circles slowly, if it stops don't give up - try in 4Lo and keep at it - then report back how many 360s you did before you start hearing funny noises

for the rest of you reading this keep in mind Dave's Jeep is special, so don't try this with yours (just so i don't get blamed for the damage).