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Offline neale_rs

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brake incident
« on: May 04, 2008, 07:24:08 AM »
While wheeling a few days ago, the jeep was at an extreme angle and the engine was about to stall.  When I pressed on the brake pedal it went to the floor with no resistance, I let it out and pressed again and it went down most of the way but I think there was some resistance just before the floor.  I shut off the engine and restarted and everything was fine for the rest of the trip and it was also fine the next day around town.  There was no fluid loss, the reservoir is still full.  Any ideas?

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'95 YJ, 33 x 12.5 mud tires, RE 4.5 ED lift, Atlas 4 speed, rear D44, ARBs front and rear, 4.56 gears, 8000# winch

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Re: brake incident
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2008, 07:33:09 AM »
Sounds like the check valve in the booster is going bad.
Chuck P
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Re: brake incident
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2008, 07:45:01 AM »
Would you recommend changing only the booster or the master cylinder and booster together?  Thanks
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Re: brake incident
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2008, 07:45:52 AM »
Should be able to just replace the booster.
Chuck P
The clowns'? Oh, yeah, the clowns. We fight them too — entire armies, spilling out of Volkswagons. We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending 'em in!
94 YJ - gone
98 ZJ - sons truck
97 TJ - daughters project

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Re: brake incident
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2008, 07:54:05 AM »
Iīm trying to understand this.  I more or less recall that the jeep did not move despite what happened to it seems the booster was keeping the brakes applied even with the foot off the pedal.  So then pressing it again was just pushing against the return spring with no additional fluid pumping.  Does this sound about right?  Thanks
'95 YJ, 33 x 12.5 mud tires, RE 4.5 ED lift, Atlas 4 speed, rear D44, ARBs front and rear, 4.56 gears, 8000# winch

jcsanders79

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Re: brake incident
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2008, 07:54:53 AM »
My sisters Jeep did something simular and we changed the booster and it fixed it.

Clem

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Re: brake incident
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2008, 09:14:59 AM »
Isn't the check valve in the top of the booster with a grommet and vacuum line to it?

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Re: brake incident
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2008, 04:14:31 PM »
Isn't the check valve in the top of the booster with a grommet and vacuum line to it?

Yes, and it appears that you can buy it seperately for less than $10
http://www.partsamerica.com/productdetail.aspx?MfrCode=DOR&MfrPartNumber=80189&CategoryCode=3110
Chuck P
The clowns'? Oh, yeah, the clowns. We fight them too — entire armies, spilling out of Volkswagons. We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending 'em in!
94 YJ - gone
98 ZJ - sons truck
97 TJ - daughters project

www.oldjeep.com

Clem

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Re: brake incident
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 01:09:08 AM »
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Offline neale_rs

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Re: brake incident
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2008, 08:40:00 AM »
Thanks a lot to all for your help, I'll try to get the check valve separately... much cheaper that way!
'95 YJ, 33 x 12.5 mud tires, RE 4.5 ED lift, Atlas 4 speed, rear D44, ARBs front and rear, 4.56 gears, 8000# winch

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Re: brake incident
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 10:21:24 AM »
Thanks a lot to all for your help, I'll try to get the check valve separately... much cheaper that way!

Hopefully that will be enough to solve the problem
Chuck P
The clowns'? Oh, yeah, the clowns. We fight them too — entire armies, spilling out of Volkswagons. We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending 'em in!
94 YJ - gone
98 ZJ - sons truck
97 TJ - daughters project

www.oldjeep.com

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Re: brake incident
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2008, 02:00:25 PM »
Just an update.  I took it to a brake shop owned by an uncle of my wife.  I trust this shop because they know the owner's niece could die if they do bad work!  They found that the master cylinder cups were leaking internally a bit.  It was replaced and seems to be working fine.  I'll try to test it at extreme angles ASAP.

Thanks for the help.
'95 YJ, 33 x 12.5 mud tires, RE 4.5 ED lift, Atlas 4 speed, rear D44, ARBs front and rear, 4.56 gears, 8000# winch