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Offline jagular7

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Jeep Campers
« on: August 08, 2007, 07:20:26 AM »
Camping and Jeeping:
I've had 16' Scamp camper for camping and Jeeping. But it was too heavy for my 4cyl. The 13' version would be better at/near 900#s. But it will be too wide for my storage location next to the house and I'd prefer not to pay $360/yr for storage.


I've had a commercial utility teardrop camper (4x8). Nice size and weight and was basically a sleep area on wheels. However, my 2 kids wanted to going wheeling. It only sleeps 2 and I had to pitch a tent.


In addition, it was packed and not easily used unless you were at the destination.


I'm working on using a Pinzgauer ambulance body onto a frame and converting it to a camper.



I'm on a forum for teardrops and tiny travel trailers (T&TTT). Lots of great information about building your own light weight camper. Some people are just amazing with what they can do with wood, stain, and imagination.
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2007, 07:54:05 AM »
okay i know it looks retarded when people use them by them selves, but what about a truck bed trailer for the ambulance body? looks like it would fit into one and yopu could maybe even get a little more lift/suspesion travel out of it for odd locals?

then again i can under stand not wanting to cause too much weight....

the guy i know who made an ambulance into a camper has fold down beds that latch up to the sides when not in use, and on the bottom of the beds are shelves that heav three or four tupperware containers that are held in with a crossbar so he can store stuff. just a suggestion.

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2007, 04:47:55 PM »
Jagular  I was  thinking how well the jeep could handle one Like this .http://www.casitatraveltrailers.com/13-layout.html
Tell me about the weight of your 16' scamp. the Castia about 1500'

Offline jagular7

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 08:55:53 PM »
Jagular  I was  thinking how well the jeep could handle one Like this .http://www.casitatraveltrailers.com/13-layout.html
Tell me about the weight of your 16' scamp. the Castia about 1500'

Casita, Scamp both have very similar layouts for the 13' (10' box) and should be near 900#s empty. Add battery, water tank (8#per gallon IIRC), grey tank (if so equipped), bedding material, curtains, refrigerator/ice box, propane tank, and you have the basic starting weight. Then add camping gear, awning, cooler, clothing, etc. Anything you carry is weight. This will add up.
Trillium is another fiberglass model coming back but is mostly in Canada. The Fiberglass camper forum has lots of other similar type campers. My box is the size of a Compact. With the cutout area in my box, I'm basically setup for a single rear door way. My setup will have a sleeping for 3 comfortably, 4 cramped. It will be rear entry single off-center door. Removable kitchen will be in front of the door. Bathroom/shower will be opposite. A multi-plane folding door will provide privacy. Next will be cabinetry to support bedding. Up front will be fold down table/queen bed and over top 2 fold down bunks opposite sides. The front of the box outside will receive a tongue storage box. Above this on the camper will be an airfoil bubble. Within the bubble will be footing for the top bunks when necessary, upper storage and ac.

When you go camping in a camper, you will do hookups when they are available. Water is not a big deal as I don't do dishes inside anyways. Shower is planning to be no more than hot water pressurized from the Jeep and a catch-all base with a drop center drain. The electricity is the biggest thing when camping. You pay a flat rate for all hook ups so why not take advantage. So you could leave your ac hooked up all day and come back to a cool camper. Its a real plus on hot humid nights. If you camp mostly in primative locations, you can look at a small generator to provide the electricity and minimize the use as necessary.

As for my Scamp, when I sold it, I weighed it. It was 2300# without sleeping bags for 4, dishware, cookware items, wet weather jackets, and other personal items you take when camping. It had the bedding and seat areas, no bathroom, separate large closet (would have been the bathroom), stovetop, non-working refrigerator, heater, ac and empty couple fiberglass cabinets. It had a 20# propane tank and battery up front. This was a little heavy for the 4cyl TJ.

I'm hoping the ambulance box, with inner and outer fiberglass walls and 1.5" insulation, will be much lighter.
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Offline jagular7

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007, 09:19:14 PM »
okay i know it looks retarded when people use them by them selves, but what about a truck bed trailer for the ambulance body? looks like it would fit into one and yopu could maybe even get a little more lift/suspesion travel out of it for odd locals?

then again i can under stand not wanting to cause too much weight....

Exactly. The truck frame is massive compared to a trailer frame. Go to Harborfreight and check out their display trailer. A lot of TDs and small campers are using these bolt together flat bed trailers. They usually go for under $300 for the heavier weight capacity when on sale and a rebate is advertised.
To add, the cutout is 12" high and 19" wide. I plan to box the back end from the wells back. I'll keep the front the stock way, but attach hanging storage boxes designed to fit the trailer and camper box. Access will be also from inside as well as outside. I'm putting a boat trailer front (bent A-frame configuration that is boxed) and mating it to my military M101 trailer (same size but 'C' channel). I think it will tie well with the lower portion of the front of the camper box.

the guy i know who made an ambulance into a camper has fold down beds that latch up to the sides when not in use, and on the bottom of the beds are shelves that heav three or four tupperware containers that are held in with a crossbar so he can store stuff. just a suggestion.

I still have those racks also, but they are all aluminum and I could get some real good money for the weight of them. To add, the racks are secured to the inner wall so I'm hoping there is some 'structure' to the fiberglass box.
I'm in the process on the frame building.
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Re: Jeep Campers
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2007, 08:15:19 AM »
...and I had to pitch a tent.

huhhhh hhhuhhhhh huhhh .....




(God...I'm so immature...oh well)
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Re: Jeep Campers
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2007, 08:51:17 AM »
btw jag, my dad for years has been talking about teardrop trailers. i showed him that web site and now were going to build one over the winter. thanx for the info!

i just hope he dosen't think were going to do it in my garage....