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quicksand

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2012, 02:28:11 AM »
Well checking in with update. Like I was saying before power is great but mileage has been suffering really bad. So after doing a bit of driving, I have been making a few small changes to regain MPG and still keep most of HP gains. OK lost a lltte response when I swapped back to the stock 4.0L but nothing to complain about at all. Still no increase in mileage. Then I closed up my adjustedble air intake box a bit and still no increase in MPG. Squeezing out 40 miles from about 1/4 tank and thats filled to the rim. Still power is good, actually increase in torque and still can hit 70 MPH just not as soon. O yeah that includes droping the plug gap to what it was before.042. Trying to retrace and back track where my settings were before. Power was good and I was getting 200 miles out of a tank full. I cant get it back. Do I need to reset and disconnect my battery maybe? Man It was good where I had it before. Gotta find that sweet spot again. No way am I saying a bigger bore TB isnt good for HP, it sure is. But right now I am a daily driver. Will continue with small changes in search for that balance of power and MPG I had before.

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2012, 05:18:02 AM »
I don't think a smaller/bigger gap would make a difference. These engines are big and inefficient.
I think the following will help more: more pressure in your tires, get smaller and more narrow tires, loose your excessive weight, put on the hard top and close the windows, shut off the airco, drive at constant pace,....

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2012, 01:20:01 PM »
When ever you switch the throttle body or sensors, I was told to reset the computer. The comptuer learns the norms of all the sensors and sets fixed values around what it learns (min, max, avg). Resetting the computer lets it readjust to the new running enviornment. It can account for the change on it's own, but I think it typically is like 100 run cycles - resetting speeds it up.
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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2012, 01:45:02 PM »
Well silly me, that was somthing I did not do is reset via battery. I usaully do it each time with a upgrade. Just not use to doing it on downsizing TB. Thanks well do it today.

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2012, 02:00:34 PM »
you're going the wrong way about it

it helps if you actually calculate the mpg and not estimate it ("about" 200 miles on a "tank" can be anywhere from 16 to 10 mpg).

since you didn't change anything major you magic airbox and the .002 difference in plug gap won't account for any mpg increase or decrease, the only way to do it properly is to average over 3 or 4 fill-ups, add the quantity up and use the odometer reading to get the exact mpg, your variation is more likely to have been different due to your estimations rather than changes in the way your Jeep runs. It also matters a lot where you drive it, you should take the same route if you want to compare exactly the mpg and also you should drive exactly the same (shift at the same rpm, drive at the same max or min speed for the same amount of time) and travel the exact same distance.

oh, and another thing, the first time you reset the computer until if finishes the learning cycle (about 10 days to 2 weeks for the average daily driver) it will be worse on mpg and not better, it gets better the more data is collected.
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quicksand

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2012, 02:08:52 PM »
Yes Sir thanks for that info. O yea when I had the bigger TB I was taking the same route but I was driving like real hard, stomped on it on every take off and would cruise just as fast as I can go. It felt so good as far as power I could not drive normal, by choice. I was racing wherever I went. That would make a difference am sure. I am still tossing maybe going back to bigger bore and just changing driving habits, hard to do when it feels so good. Thanks again.

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2012, 02:38:56 PM »
I switched to 91 octane and set my computer with my HyperTech programmer a few months back. I can't switch it back because of my right foot either.  :trollface:
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2012, 03:15:48 PM »
Woooooo Haaaaaaaaa ! That sounds like fun, except for suckin up gas yes/no ?

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2012, 04:07:21 PM »
It doesn't really suck up more other than when my foot sticks the pedal.
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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2012, 04:19:18 PM »
What mods are you currently running and do you know what your MPG is?

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2012, 04:30:35 PM »
Well, I average about 13-14 mpg in mixed city/highway to work. 15 mpg on long road trips. Its a 4.0L with Manual 5 speed on 35"for mud terrains geared to 4.88 (-12% to stock). AEM intake, Banks Monster Exhaust, and the HyperTech programmer.
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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2012, 11:01:48 PM »
Sounds nice, stop! you making me jealous LOL. Sounds like you got a nice rig. Yep one of these days I am gonna grow mine up. Get a real lift and at least some 33s with a gear change. Hey let me ask you If money was not a issue and if you had a choice to either get a 08 JK 4 door or continue building your rig with no limit which would you choose. You can only choose one, which would it be?

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2012, 11:40:59 PM »
I really like mine. I'd like to finish it before starting over. The 4 doors seem nice, but I really like the 2 door wranglers. The stretched TJ or LJs would be nice, but when I see the 4 doors I just see a Chrokee - sorry if that comes of snobbish. It's great daily driver and fun offroad. Now, that blue concept Mighty FC concept would be awesome 4 doors.  :smile:
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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2012, 12:32:22 AM »
Not snobbish at all, NP. Yeah I could see that about a JK. I think it would make for a good expedition rig. But I also just love my TJ. O yea that mighty FC is on my wish list. I hope they do go into production, whats the latest news about that.

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Re: 62 MM throttle body
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2012, 12:41:14 AM »
Heres one version