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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #210 on: March 03, 2010, 12:38:20 PM »
Can not clearly understand from their site if I can read and reset Trouble codes through my iPhone.

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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #211 on: March 03, 2010, 12:58:19 PM »
Can not clearly understand from their site if I can read and reset Trouble codes through my iPhone.
i think you can read the codes but you can't reset the codes (thru either iPhone or PC/laptop). i think it's the same as OT-1 just with WiFi and iPhone capabilities
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/manual/OT1_Manual.pdf

it is meant for monitoring and logging engine parameters, what you are looking for i think is a diagnostic tool which this one is not
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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #212 on: March 03, 2010, 01:09:50 PM »
Just look: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/logworks/id351896392?mt=8

On 3rd layout they have RESET button. :clap:

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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #213 on: March 03, 2010, 01:14:22 PM »
Just look: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/logworks/id351896392?mt=8

On 3rd layout they have RESET button. :clap:

i don't see it - which layout? there are only 2 screenshots in the link you posted

edit: nevermind, i missed the scroll bar on the bottom there
were you referring to the clear-all button?

edit 2: I'd start by reading the manual and see what it says - i don't think you can reset anything other than the values stored in the application
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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #214 on: March 03, 2010, 01:29:44 PM »
Yea, it is CLEAR ALL. It's not the one, is it?
So I need to buy WO2 from them to be able to control a/f ratio? Is it installed in replacement of stock O2, or in addition?

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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #215 on: March 03, 2010, 01:39:02 PM »
Yea, it is CLEAR ALL. It's not the one, is it?
So I need to buy WO2 from them to be able to control a/f ratio? Is it installed in replacement of stock O2, or in addition?

the LC1 (wideband o2) will let you monitor the AFR, you can't change anything with it. you can replace your stock o2 with it as it has 2 analog outputs which you can program and potentially you can offset the output on those to "trick" the PCM in having a richer mixture - but that only works for closed loop, won't be a replacement for a piggyback system.

EDIT: forgot to ask - is your 2.4L equipped with a narrowband O2 or a wideband? if it has a wideband you don't need an LC1 as you can monitor the mixture thru the OBD2 interface (you can monitor it even with a narrowband but it's limited so won't help you in the 12 to 14 AFR range)
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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #216 on: March 03, 2010, 01:52:16 PM »
No, I think I understood the need of piggy back, I mean this device for monitoring of my future mods and recent conditions of my car. If it is a good replacement for laptop, I'd go for it.

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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #217 on: March 03, 2010, 02:00:56 PM »
No, I think I understood the need of piggy back, I mean this device for monitoring of my future mods and recent conditions of my car. If it is a good replacement for laptop, I'd go for it.

you don't look at the display when you tune it - you log the parameters of the engine (MAP reading, RPM, AFR, TPS) and then you analyze it later - based on the log you go into the piggyback and adjust the fuel delivery map based on what you logged (adjust the MAP output to compensate for too little or too much fuel) - the piggyback has a table that is based on RPM and MAP readings - would be impossible for you to visually log and remember all the points where you need to make adjustments and then go into the piggyback and change the values.

double check if you have a wideband or narrowband
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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #218 on: March 03, 2010, 02:05:06 PM »
The last screen shot shows IAT temperature - good feature for us! Do they also mean MAP as map sensor? What units are there if it really MAP sensor readings?

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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #219 on: March 03, 2010, 02:16:22 PM »
The last screen shot shows IAT temperature - good feature for us! Do they also mean MAP as map sensor? What units are there if it really MAP sensor readings?

yes, they mean map sensor reading - like i said, nice thing with yours is that you can monitor all the sensor outputs via obd2

didn't get your other question (don't understand what you mean).
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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #220 on: March 03, 2010, 02:29:59 PM »


EDIT: forgot to ask - is your 2.4L equipped with a narrowband O2 or a wideband? if it has a wideband you don't need an LC1 as you can monitor the mixture thru the OBD2 interface (you can monitor it even with a narrowband but it's limited so won't help you in the 12 to 14 AFR range)
Tried to find out in manual. Negative. All i know it has a dual O2S system, upstream/downstream. Does it say smth to you?
Also it says - O2S produces 0-1 Volt.
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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #221 on: March 03, 2010, 02:38:12 PM »
yes, they mean map sensor reading - like i said, nice thing with yours is that you can monitor all the sensor outputs via obd2

didn't get your other question (don't understand what you mean).
I meant units - inHg. Now I know "inches of Mercury". Never met that before.:) It is 0,5 psi - is it?
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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #222 on: March 03, 2010, 03:27:01 PM »
Tried to find out in manual. Negative. All i know it has a dual O2S system, upstream/downstream. Does it say smth to you?
Also it says - O2S produces 0-1 Volt.

0 to 1v is narrowband, i looked around too - does not seem to be a wideband (but mind you i did not get into it too much).

I meant units - inHg. Now I know "inches of Mercury". Never met that before.:) It is 0,5 psi - is it?

oh, i see - i thought you meant units as in devices - no wonder was not making any sense. Usually it is inHg for the vacuum side and psi for the boost side - you can setup the same output in logworks - it's very customizable so you can set it to any output you want (psi, bar, Pascal or KPa, kg/cm^2 in vacuum, boost or as absolute pressure).


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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #223 on: March 03, 2010, 04:02:58 PM »
62.31 inHg - does it make any sense? What would be for vacuum?

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Re: Throttle body position. Before or after charger?
« Reply #224 on: March 03, 2010, 04:18:43 PM »
62.31 inHg - does it make any sense? What would be for vacuum?

no it doesn't, about -20inHg for a normal vacuum at idle if i remember correctly. Might be that they did not split the scale and it is absolute pressure and in that case that would show something like 10psi of boost (i'm too lazy to get the values converted - just a very loose approximation)
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