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General Forums => The Mess Hall => Topic started by: Chad on March 04, 2007, 10:28:39 PM
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Well on thursday and friday the first days of march we got a major snow storm here in minnesota. I decided to drive up to my parents house 3 hours North, to go snowmobiling, in the middle of the storm. Anyways I was driving on highway 10 3 miles south of Motley, for those Minnesotans on the board, when all the sudden i lost control and my jeep spun out in the middle of the highway. The posted limit was 65 and I wasn't going any faster than 50 and I was getting passed all afternoon, but I guess I was still going too fast. My jeep spun around 270 degrees before it was t-boned by the f-150 riding my ass. One of the scariest things I have ever been a part of, after the jeep spun 180 i got a real good look at the f-150 barrelling down on me, and watched it as it nailed the passenger side of my car. You win Mozman all the bad Karma has caught up with me the black knight has defeated the freedom machine and he now wears the scars.
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Any Idea how they will fix the dent on the body that makes up the door well?
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On another note, when i was driving the jeep back home tonight it had a terrible shimmy every time i got up over 55mph. I thought for sure the frame was tweaked. But then I remembered a post put up about a snow run and not getting all the snow out of the wheels before getting on the highway so I pulled over and checked my wheels, sure enough the inside of both the passenger rims were full of snow and ice, after i got that out, she was true as ever-thank god
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ouch!!! at least you're okay though.
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trying to make pictures bigger let me know if this one shows up on ur comp
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yup, it showed up.
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i hope these worked
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yup, I can see them all. I wonder how much $$$ that'll cost you.
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Man, at least you are ok! The other day I was rounding bend in the road at 45, the streets were dry and not snow covered but there was a hidden patch of ice, the back end swung around, then I hit dry pavement again and stopped sliding as fast as I started, it jerked the jeep violently onto 2 wheels and back the direction I was going, thought for sure I was going to roll it.
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That's a bad break, Chad. But, it'll get fixed.
Still, can I have your 6x9 speaker bar? Those things are hard to find. :lol:
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new door, and hammer the shit outta the tub. glad your ok, now is a good time to take out all your aggresion on your jeep tho
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Ouch! Glad ur OK... I had the blender effect w/o the crash a few years ago... not fun.
I was in Indiana seems they like to plow the sholders instead of the main road... everyone was passing the plow. When my turn came up, I spun when I passed the "wake" from the plow. Some how I kept it between the ditches and traffice was light ~ everyone else managed to avoid me. Straightened it out and passed again - this time in 4H - fully puckered.
Did you talk to the insurance co. yet?
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Ouch, I'd count yourself lucky that it didn't roll when you got hit. If a body shop fixes it, they'll just buy a $100 panel and cut most of the mangled metal out to replace. Takes way too much labor to pound and pull something like that out.
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chad, I gave you + 1 karma in an effort to even things out for you. The damage to the Jeep sucks but it's good to know you're ok.
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so...everybody...the lesson here is...don't mess with me... :guns:
:whistle:
Seriously, glad you're okay....here's some karma for posting the best dents on this board in a real long time. :thumb:
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Sure glad you are ok. Getting hit at speed at a 'T' angle is abrupt for sure. Check out your spine. Is it still straight? Neck ok?
Wow.
For the body, look at this as an opportunity. The insurance will give you an estimate to get it fixed. Take that in cash. Yes, you'll need another door, but they are cheap through forum lists through someone selling them rather than a junk yard then body shop then insurance. Check your local craigslist.org city for Jeep extras. I know someone here in KC selling a pair of TJ half doors red in color ( HERE (http://www.kcjeepclub.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8919) for $400.
Then for the floor and the side panel, time to upgrade. Sheetmetal can be done by your local body shop repair guy behind lines. You won't need a repair, you just need an adjustment. Then get yourself some kickpanel skids and steps. You can go aftermarket or custom made. There are some mfrs that have steel (3/16"-1/4") that go up near the door edge from fender to fender. Add some side tubing for a step and your are set.
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Sure glad you are ok. Getting hit at speed at a 'T' angle is abrupt for sure. Check out your spine. Is it still straight? Neck ok?
Wow.
For the body, look at this as an opportunity. The insurance will give you an estimate to get it fixed. Take that in cash. Yes, you'll need another door, but they are cheap through forum lists through someone selling them rather than a junk yard then body shop then insurance. Check your local craigslist.org city for Jeep extras. I know someone here in KC selling a pair of TJ half doors red in color ( HERE (http://www.kcjeepclub.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8919) for $400.
Then for the floor and the side panel, time to upgrade. Sheetmetal can be done by your local body shop repair guy behind lines. You won't need a repair, you just need an adjustment. Then get yourself some kickpanel skids and steps. You can go aftermarket or custom made. There are some mfrs that have steel (3/16"-1/4") that go up near the door edge from fender to fender. Add some side tubing for a step and your are set.
X eleventy billion
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Glad your OK. Here's probably what I'd do. Take it to the Dealer and get an estimate. They will give you a high estimate. Then take that to your insurance and most likely they will pay that. Makes sure you cover everything. Did you hit a curb? A shimmy will usually mean, driveshaft axles or wheels and or tires. Did you loose any wheel weights in the accident?
Once the Insurance Ok's the estimate, you have two choices, get it done and have the Insurance pay the shop or you can have them pay out directly to you. Depending on how bad the rocker is you might want them to fix that. Then you can source your own door (probably half the estimate price for an OEM). Install it your self and if you really wanted to, get it painted to match. Even if it matches in color, you will need to have the door adjusted which usually means loosening the hinges on the door. This exposes bare metal since the doors are painted after they are fitted.
Then I'd invest in some decent rocker guards. (This probably won't totally protect you from more damage there though. I've seen rocker guards twist causes the body seems to split on a TJ before.) The cheap way would be to hammer out the dents yourself, but that's a lot of work. It looks like the rocker is pinched in at the bottom and the door opening might be a bit warped. Did the guy hit your rear axle? It looks like the front right side of the Ford hit your door on the edge.
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Chad I am also glad you are okay. Make sure you take care of the medical stuff first. Then build the freedom machine up and make us proud.
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Glad you are okay! Looks like the door will definatly be replaced. The rocker area should be prepulled to get it back were it is supposed to be, once it is set up on the rack it can be pulled. Then the shop can do a few things, they can replace the whole uniside, if thats what the insurance wants done, or they can buy the whole side and then section in the rocker area. The frame should be measured to make sure that it didnt bow the rail on that side, looks like there might be some inner structure damage as well, ascessing damage to a vehicle just by looking at pictures can be very misleading, but thats my 2 cents.
sucks that it happened, but the good thing is that you are okay. How did the ford hold up?
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Glad your ok. Been in one accident where I saw it coming, sure is a sickening feeling.
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Glad to hear you are not injured. That's the most important thing.
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Well I went to get some estimates today 4200 from the dealer's autobody shop. Not sure what i am gonna do yet the other place said they would help me out a bit but didn't give me a number that place works directly with my insurance company. I am still waiting to see who they say is at fault with the accident. I mean it was me who lost control but the truck who following too close and hit me so i am not sure who they will say is at fault
In regards to the question about the damage on the truck. It was a 96 F150 and it me with the front right of its bumper, the bumper and grill got pretty mangled as well as the front right quarter panel. What made me happy was once i got pulled out of the ditch, (by a nice minnesotan who was just driving around pulling people out of ditches cuz he can) my jeep was still driveable and the f150's bumper was rubbing up against his front right tire pretty severely
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Well I went to get some estimates today 4200 from the dealer's autobody shop. Not sure what i am gonna do yet the other place said they would help me out a bit but didn't give me a number that place works directly with my insurance company. I am still waiting to see who they say is at fault with the accident. I mean it was me who lost control but the truck who following too close and hit me so i am not sure who they will say is at fault
In regards to the question about the damage on the truck. It was a 96 F150 and it me with the front right of its bumper, the bumper and grill got pretty mangled as well as the front right quarter panel. What made me happy was once i got pulled out of the ditch, (by a nice minnesotan who was just driving around pulling people out of ditches cuz he can) my jeep was still driveable and the f150's bumper was rubbing up against his front right tire pretty severely
I wouldn't go to a shop associated with the insurance. They will probably try to cut some corners to save you money but if the insurance is paying for it you will be better off getting it done by the Dealer. The shop might get seconds or inferior panels and then get a salvage door. You'd be better off with the higher estimate and pocket the extra coin. They aren't doing you any favors.
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You cant surrender!? You gotta roll around in the bad karma and get covered in it. If your Jeep is dented bad, this is the opportunity to get out and dent it some more :lol:
Probably in 40 years you'll be able to relinquish control of your Jeep to a State DOT/Garmin join venture service that will remotely drive your Jeep for you to a destination and insure adequate following distances between vehicles in bad weather. Until then, you gotta deal with the T-Bone Von Brauns (rocket scientists) out there :biggrin:
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Wow that sucks, glad you're ok and didn't get rolled. i did a slide on the 8 freeway a couple of weeks ago, got hit by a wind gust so strong it spun me and the Jeep behind me around, on dry pavement no less and I was only doing about 40.
So about the wreck... sue the fool, get a gob of money and do the AEV Brute conversion with a Viper engine, now that would be cool
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Because I felt kind, I averaged out the negative karma for two people... :finger:
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Because I felt kind, I averaged out the negative karma for two people... :finger:
awwww....no more karma fun.... :guns:
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Because I felt kind, I averaged out the negative karma for two people... :finger:
awwww....no more karma fun.... :guns:
It's only fun till someone gets hurt. :lol:
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atleast in CA you wouldn't be at fault.
I was going down the highway about 75 (not in the jeep) when a truck hauling somesorta tank crossed the highway infront of me and another car. The truck went on two wheels and the lady infront of me jammed on her brakes. I didnt notice because i was afraid of the truck tipping over. The last secound i heard the sound of brakes screaching and managed somehow to barely tap the lady infront of me. doing no damage to my car :weee:
When the police came they said i was at fault because when there is an obstruction in the roadway (the car and the asshat truck driver) the speed limit is effectivly 0 MPH.
So basically if you rearend someone your at fault
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now thats just retarded... in mn we are a no fault state. but theres something like if you rear end someone if they had there brakes on its then its their fault but if they don't have their brakes on then its your fault... but then i don't get how its no fault... all i know is whenever someone hits the brakes in front of me and i cant stop fast enough i hit the ditch.
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I live in Bemidji were were you heading? i just got my jeep just before all the snow and it's been a learning experience especially with not having anti-lock brakes. I just so happen to be a body man at Steel's Auto Body in Bemidji if your around we could give you an estimate and if you felt like having use fix it I would make sure it was done right. No pressure, just thought I could get some good karma helping a fello jeeper ;)
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Here is what Ive learned. If the insurance pays to fix it...they pay for all of it. If they pay you to fix it they only pay about 50% of the cost. AS for the damage more can be done than you realize. The front cowl could be tweeked as well as alot more of it. Id point out everything that could be wrong and push for it to be completly fixed with garentee. Personally Id push for totaling it out. Then Id streighten the side, sell the good door and have a deticated trail rig. Take the money from the total and buy a new jeep!!!
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thanks huntingbuck I appreciate i'll check you guys out I gotta wait and see who the insurance determines is at fault and all that stuff and then see how much cash i am gonna get from the insurance company. I'll keeps you guys in mind for sure I just don't think I'll be in the bemidji until around mid april but I am no rush and I do know that for some reason it seems like everything up in bemidji is cheaper than near the citys
Yea I would like it if they totalled it out too, to be honest but Kelly blue book had a ridiculously high value for it like 9,500 which I found to be unbelievable. so with a high end estimate of 4200 and a 9000 value i doubt they will total it out
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If you have a loan out they will not give you anything. the check will be in the name of you and the shop. If you own it free and clear they will cut you a check for the cost of the repair. what year is the jeep and how many miles are on it? It doesn't take much to have a total loss if the miles are higher. as for new or used parts it up to what the insurance company's policy is as far as aftermarket in MN they cant make you use it but if it close to being totaled they might want to use some to save it. You could refuse them but they might do a total loss and you would get a check for what the jeep was worth and most likely have a chance to do a buy back from them for the amount they would get from a salvage or reparable place. I'm thinking around 1/4 of the payout check.
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No chance on the total thing they are offering me like 2500 I think i am just gonna have this autobody shop do. the shop is not making me pay any deductable