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Title: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: officer mike on July 19, 2007, 09:17:43 PM
Hey my 8.8 is in and looking good. can anyone help me on the sway bar. I got extended links from currie. Will the sway bar work. I know I need to notch that webbing onthe right side. But other then that am i good to go? any help is appreciated. thanks guys, Mike
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: GzrGlide on July 19, 2007, 09:57:17 PM
Lots of info here!
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=674123 (http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=674123)
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: jcsanders79 on July 20, 2007, 05:42:53 AM
On my TJ when I did an axle swap I left the rear sway bar off, can't even tell its not there.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: dexetr30 on July 20, 2007, 09:49:21 AM
I didn't do an axle swap but I'm not running the anti sway in the rear either. No difference in the way it drives.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: Mozman68 on July 20, 2007, 10:55:10 AM
So...would you guys say the rear sway is there more for stability during emergency maneuvers??  Everyone seems to say they can't tell a difference when disconnected.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: jcsanders79 on July 20, 2007, 01:15:41 PM
I would say that if you take it off you can't tell a difference.  I live in an area with mountains and take hard turns at speeds higher than the posted and don't have a problem.  I can say that if you don't have the front connected it does feel SCARY. Plus think of how many vehicles that don't have one and don't have a problem.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: dexetr30 on July 20, 2007, 01:34:55 PM
We have a lot of hilly/mountainous, curved roads here in northeast Pennsylvania and even at higher speeds I don't see a difference with the rear anti-sway removed. The Poconos aren't the Rockies but they can be pretty bad and I've never come close to an incident unless I have the front disco'd.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: officer mike on July 20, 2007, 10:10:00 PM
im from nepa too. wilkes barre....dallas?
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: dexetr30 on July 21, 2007, 06:50:36 AM
im from nepa too. wilkes barre....dallas?

West Wyoming!
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: Oilsmoke on July 21, 2007, 06:43:05 PM
Panhard and swaybar are off  & Long gone on my 8.8 swap Never missed it. Offroad traction is way better with them off and after awhile you drive it they way you feel safe and you'll forget to think about them.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: Bounty Hunter on July 21, 2007, 07:53:46 PM
I think it needs to be clarified who is running TJ's and who is running YJ's when recommending to remove vital suspension components.  I can't see anybody running without a rear panhard bar on a TJ suspension with stock geometry.  I see some cornfusion in our near future.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: dexetr30 on July 21, 2007, 08:06:43 PM
I think it needs to be clarified who is running TJ's and who is running YJ's when recommending to remove vital suspension components.  I can't see anybody running without a rear panhard bar on a TJ suspension with stock geometry.  I see some cornfusion in our near future.

The panhard/track bar was not removed from my tj, only the anti-sway bar. I wouldn't recommend removing the track bar on a tj but on the yj's it's doable. On the other hand the yj's didn't come with a rear anti-sway bar, only a front.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: Oilsmoke on July 22, 2007, 08:04:56 AM
I missed that And I am Sorry. The Coil springed rear TJ would be a jiggle Ride without the Panard bar.
I will take my YJ & go to the back of the trial and eat Dust for awhile.I have learn a Good lesson THX Bounty .
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: aw12345 on July 22, 2007, 01:37:19 PM
On a TJ its not a bad idea to leave the rear swaybar in place it helps stability during highway manuevers and helps stability on the trail a TJ with the front swaybar disconnected rolls a lot on the trail the rear swaybar helps that some and still allowas good flex so if at all possible leave it or hook it back up you will like it it helps in of camber situations on the trail and does not really limit your flex. Quite a few serious off roaders leave it in place and want it connected on the trail
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: officer mike on August 02, 2007, 12:14:00 AM
My inner sidewall of my tire rubs my frame spring bucket at flex with my 8.8... anyone else have this problem?
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: Bounty Hunter on August 02, 2007, 08:04:59 AM
It will since the 8.8 is a tad narrower than the D35.  Consider wheel spacers if it rubs bad, or rims with less backspacing.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: jagular7 on August 02, 2007, 12:54:10 PM
My inner sidewall of my tire rubs my frame spring bucket at flex with my 8.8... anyone else have this problem?

You need to get different shocks and bump stops. The tire should clear the bucket during flex. It should rub the frame.... :brick:

You may want to look into wheel spacers to compensate for the lesser track width of the 8.8. I just swapped wheels with more backspacing. I'm running 15x7 w/ 3.75 bs. I get rubbing and I accept that. Difficult thing to consider when swapping wheels for bs, you have to consider the front and spare tire locations as well. Too much bs up front will keep the tires out from the fender. Not only does this dirty the side of the Jeep, this also could be considered illegal in many states. For the spare, you may have to add spacers to the rubber gommets that rest on the spare. This will keep the spare tight against the door and minimize the sheetmetal shredding itself from the weight of the spare tire off the back.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: officer mike on August 02, 2007, 02:38:27 PM
 I see what you guys are saying. my shocks are the shocks for my lift. and bumpstops...id really need big ones. Im at 6"+ all suspensions thats why it rubs the buckets and not the frame. It doesnt rub bad, I cant hear it. Nor is the bucket sharp. But I'd hate to f up a tire .. you know.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: Oilsmoke on August 02, 2007, 03:34:01 PM
What back spacing does your rims have and tire size are you running.

No problems with my rims and tires. I am running a 31x10.5x15 on a 15x7 with 4.25 backspacing.
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: officer mike on August 02, 2007, 11:01:03 PM
why do you have an 8.8 with 31s? my rims are 16x 8 and im spinning 35s. idk my exact bs. but its for a jeep. I will be back in 2 weeks guys. I leave in 4 hours for my annual training. continue this then..
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: might4banger on August 03, 2007, 11:21:04 AM
^ Mike - I had an 8.8 when I had 30's... Why? Cause the D35 is a POS !  :flush:
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: Oilsmoke on August 03, 2007, 01:33:16 PM
Why a 8.8 for a almost Stock Jeep. The D35 was whinning so I swapped it out and Now I have disc brake and No whinning..
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: YJmechanic on August 08, 2007, 05:16:35 PM
anyone running an 8.8 in a yj?  i am about done building mine and i want to know if the stock driveshaft length will work or if i need to be ready to go to custom shaft
Title: Re: 8.8 GuyS!!!!
Post by: Oilsmoke on August 08, 2007, 05:30:59 PM
In my yj I  installed a JB conversion transfer case with SYE and had a woody made when I still had the D35 in . I had a 4x4 shop install the 8.8 and they changed the ford pinion flange to a yoke that make it work. But it did need a custom ujoint. Can't recall the numbers but it like a 1310 to 1320 style type deal. I was told after that the driveline length would be within tolerance. All is fine after 4 years.
ps
I thinking it was little shorter that stock by 1/2'' or so. But Don't Quote me.