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Title: Metal valve cover
Post by: FourbangerYJ on November 20, 2009, 11:02:15 PM
A friend of mine has a 90 W/ 2.5L and is looking for a metal valve cover. I snooped around a bit and did not see any metal ones, lots of plastic thou.
Does it exist?
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: Jeffy on November 20, 2009, 11:47:17 PM
I don't think so.
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: dwtaylorpdx on November 20, 2009, 11:47:48 PM
My 94 has a cast Aluminum stock valve cover. So maybe check wrecking yards?

Dave
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: Jeffy on November 21, 2009, 12:59:19 AM
My 94 has a cast Aluminum stock valve cover. So maybe check wrecking yards?

Dave

>1990 have aluminum valve covers but for some reason I don't think they'll work on a TBI system.
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: chardrc on November 21, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
>1990 have aluminum valve covers but for some reason I don't think they'll work on a TBI system.

when i got my 1990yj it had a cracked valve cover and couldn't find a metal one so i settled for a plastic one.. but for some reason the dealer couldn't' get my the correct gr-omits for the pcv system (after like 4 tires i gave up and used silicon to fill the gap in the wrong grommet.) they would either get a grommet that fit the valve cover or one that fit what goes into the valve cover... if i had to do it again id get a metal one for the 1991+ and change the pcv system over (shouldn't realy be that different or effect the fuel injection as long as you have air in and out. 
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: Jeffy on November 21, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
when i got my 1990yj it had a cracked valve cover and couldn't find a metal one so i settled for a plastic one.. but for some reason the dealer couldn't' get my the correct gr-omits for the pcv system (after like 4 tires i gave up and used silicon to fill the gap in the wrong grommet.) they would either get a grommet that fit the valve cover or one that fit what goes into the valve cover... if i had to do it again id get a metal one for the 1991+ and change the pcv system over (shouldn't realy be that different or effect the fuel injection as long as you have air in and out. 
The +91's do not use a PCV system.
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: Torch_Ind on November 21, 2009, 02:49:28 PM
(http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/kj/091115/178r3/80516nm_20.jpeg)

I have this one up for grab's it's not plastic.

Is that what your looking for?
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: FourbangerYJ on November 21, 2009, 04:29:28 PM
What would it take to make the 91 and newer work on the 90 and older?
Anyone have a PIC of the 90 style?

TORCH: that is what he is looking for. Seems there is the question if it will work with the TBI VS. MPFI.
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: chardrc on November 21, 2009, 05:35:30 PM
This is the best picture i have and doesn't realy show the contoures of it.. jut what sticks out of it...
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/chardrc/jeep/IMG_2962.jpg)...

looking at pictures and part numbers on autozone.com comparing 1990 to 1991, I found that they have different part numbers (but the 1990 was a rubber gasket and the 1991 was cork rubber  :confused:) the pictures do look like the shape is slightly different (more ins and outs with the metal one) if that can be trusted. :confused:

edit: found picture on quadratec web site

(http://www.quadratec.com/Assets/Images/114855/114855-md.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: dwtaylorpdx on November 22, 2009, 12:35:44 AM
I had issues with leaks and called felpro's tech line.

Wonder of wonders I ended up talking to a guy who knew his stuff, and was a YJ owner.

There are 4 different 2.5 liter valve cover gaskets. 2 plastic and 2 metal cover variants.

You have to look at teh cover, teh key difference is whether the cover has pinch points near the bolts.

The 91+ valve cover has the extra fitting for the metered breather fitting. The early one has a PCV can.
With some minor adjustments they should interchange.

Dave
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: Torch_Ind on November 22, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
well I'm selling the one I posted if your interested let me know
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: FourbangerYJ on November 22, 2009, 02:26:59 PM
well I'm selling the one I posted if your interested let me know

By the looks of it, it won't work.
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: dwtaylorpdx on November 22, 2009, 02:32:55 PM
What are you seeing that looks different? Just curious... Cause all 2.5 use the same head.

Dave

Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: FourbangerYJ on November 22, 2009, 03:14:38 PM
What are you seeing that looks different? Just curious... Cause all 2.5 use the same head.

Dave



One has 3 holes the other only 2. I would imagine it would bolt to the head. What do you do about adding a hole? Just drill it, it looks pretty large.
Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: dwtaylorpdx on November 22, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
You mean the holes for the hoses and such? or the mounting holes?

On a MPI you have a breather connection and a fitting for crankcase metered breathing. (CCV is a small brass fitting like 1/4 inch on side of cover.)

On the TBI you should have a breather and PCV valve. (PCV and Breather are like 3/4 in holes on top of cover.)

You might be able to find a Breather cap to replace the oil filler cap and use the original breather for the PCV valve?

I might be missing one,,, What do you see on yours?

Dave

Title: Re: Metal valve cover
Post by: chardrc on November 23, 2009, 09:16:18 AM
One has 3 holes the other only 2. I would imagine it would bolt to the head. What do you do about adding a hole? Just drill it, it looks pretty large.

the metal one has 3 holes.. one of them is open the side.. but they are different sizes...