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Title: Radiator
Post by: N8whitie on October 15, 2010, 06:39:59 PM
I'm looking for a new radiator and was wondering what all of you guys use? I dont want to spend alot on a Griffin or anything but I would like an aluminum radiator as i hear they are much better. I'm looking at these guys on Ebay and they have a 2 row or a 3 row. I'm thinking a 2 row would be fine but just want to check you guys out and see what you think.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-2006-Jeep-Wrangler-2-Row-Radiator-FREE-SHIPPING-/300476656734?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1995%7CModel%3AWrangler%7CMake%3AJeep&hash=item45f5cdec5e
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Dylan on October 15, 2010, 07:28:34 PM
I just use the OEM one.  :confused:
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: aka-justin on October 15, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
Unless your add massive power upgrades, no real need.  You can run an electric fan for more cooling power with OEM.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Bikerjr1 on October 15, 2010, 09:19:23 PM
the stock rad with a good fan will keep a 2.5L cool.
JR
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: sharpxmen on October 15, 2010, 09:22:37 PM
I'm looking for a new radiator and was wondering what all of you guys use? I dont want to spend alot on a Griffin or anything but I would like an aluminum radiator as i hear they are much better. I'm looking at these guys on Ebay and they have a 2 row or a 3 row. I'm thinking a 2 row would be fine but just want to check you guys out and see what you think.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-2006-Jeep-Wrangler-2-Row-Radiator-FREE-SHIPPING-/300476656734?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1995%7CModel%3AWrangler%7CMake%3AJeep&hash=item45f5cdec5e

that's the same as the one i got but mine was something like $115 shipped (or $120, can't remember but for sure not more than that, $175 is too much) - ebay as well, 1-1/4'' thick core if i recall correctly. it's worth the extra $50 compared to a stock one with plastic tanks (that's about $75 new)
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Bounty Hunter on October 15, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
www.radiatorbarn.com has a good warranty, price, and quick shipping on all-metal radiators.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Jeffy on October 15, 2010, 09:35:48 PM
With the price of some of the cheap Aluminum radiators, I'd consider one.  Aluminum radiators typically have larger rows then copper.

If I swap to a CJ front clip, I'm gonna go Aluminum.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: aka-justin on October 15, 2010, 09:52:13 PM
I should have added, but they do look bad a$$ ;)
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: neale_rs on October 18, 2010, 07:57:36 AM
I´m pretty sure the 4.0 and 2.5 Wranglers use the same radiator, so the 2.5 is cooled very well.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: N8whitie on October 18, 2010, 08:02:57 AM
My radiator is just beat to hell. All the fins are smashed down so I figured I would just get a new one.... Its probably the factory radiator.  I got a new 195* thermostat too so with those being changed my cooling issues should be over for under $150.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: sharpxmen on October 18, 2010, 09:14:41 AM
I´m pretty sure the 4.0 and 2.5 Wranglers use the same radiator, so the 2.5 is cooled very well.

the 2.5 had a thinner core, but from what i know a lot of them had the 4.0L rad, mine didn't.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Jeffy on October 18, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
the 2.5 had a thinner core, but from what i know a lot of them had the 4.0L rad, mine didn't.
The stock one on mine was a single core but the core was the same length as my two-core I have now.  Still, it only takes up 2/3" the space on the tanks.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: sharpxmen on October 18, 2010, 06:45:28 PM
The stock one on mine was a single core but the core was the same length as my two-core I have now.  Still, it only takes up 2/3" the space on the tanks.

the width and height are the same, the factory rad for 2.5 has a core 5/8 thick (at least that's what i had) the 4.0 is thicker from what i know. replacements are interchangeable and i think they are all 4.0.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Jeffy on October 18, 2010, 07:46:08 PM
the width and height are the same, the factory rad for 2.5 has a core 5/8 thick (at least that's what i had) the 4.0 is thicker from what i know. replacements are interchangeable and i think they are all 4.0.
Yeah a 4.0 will have the core cover the tanks.  Aftermarket are either 2.5L or 4.0L though.  My aftermerket is a 2 core.  A 3-core would have cost more but cover the tanks.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Dylan on October 18, 2010, 11:59:53 PM
My radiator is just beat to hell. All the fins are smashed down so I figured I would just get a new one.... Its probably the factory radiator.  I got a new 195* thermostat too so with those being changed my cooling issues should be over for under $150.
If it isn't leaking, why not just try to straighten out the fins?
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Bounty Hunter on October 19, 2010, 03:13:12 AM
If it isn't leaking, why not just try to straighten out the fins?
An OEM radiator with plastic tanks is a ticking time bomb, they all leak at the seams eventually.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Dylan on October 20, 2010, 02:20:17 AM
An OEM radiator with plastic tanks is a ticking time bomb, they all leak at the seams eventually.
Mine lasted over ten years before it started to leak.  Again, if it isn't leaking, why not straighten the fins and press on with life?
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: sharpxmen on October 20, 2010, 07:22:29 AM
Mine lasted over ten years before it started to leak.  Again, if it isn't leaking, why not straighten the fins and press on with life?

we're talking about a YJ so over 15 year old vehicle.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: jfrabat on October 20, 2010, 08:15:32 AM
Plus the new rad is only about a bubck fifty...  Why risk it?
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: N8whitie on October 20, 2010, 11:00:35 AM
It would take me about 2 days straight and a bag of meth to straighten every fin on that radiator. Its worth my 150 to get a new one and call it good.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Jeffy on October 20, 2010, 12:15:35 PM
Try touching the fins once you get a new radiator.  I don't think it's too much of a problem in CA but in other climates fins do corrode and flake off.  My old radiator had that big time.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: sharpxmen on October 20, 2010, 12:27:08 PM
Try touching the fins once you get a new radiator.  I don't think it's too much of a problem in CA but in other climates fins do corrode and flake off.  My old radiator had that big time.

same on my old one, they crumble in a fine dust when touched :lol:
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: neale_rs on October 20, 2010, 12:49:42 PM
My '95 OEM radiator has the platic tanks but seems to be aluminum, no rust ... it is starting to show some stains around the seams although it does not seem to leak and it cools the engine very well.

I've got a new aluminum radiator lined up ready to go in.  Should I keep using the old one until it leaks or put the new one in right away?
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: Jeffy on October 20, 2010, 02:16:10 PM
Aluminum oxidizes and corrodes.  Basically the same thing as rust though.  If it's not leaking and you don't have cooling issues, I wouldn't bother changing it out.  They may seep a little but unless it's pooling up and dripping I wouldn't worry too much.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: neale_rs on October 20, 2010, 03:53:50 PM
Thanks.  Sounds good.
Title: Re: Radiator
Post by: k on October 20, 2010, 11:07:39 PM
Aluminum oxidizes and corrodes.  Basically the same thing as rust though.  If it's not leaking and you don't have cooling issues, I wouldn't bother changing it out.  They may seep a little but unless it's pooling up and dripping I wouldn't worry too much.
Drove with one leaking for 5 years before finally changing it when the heater core also started leaking.  The radiator only leaked when it got to less than 20 degrees outside, and then it would only steam until it warmed up and wouldn't do it for the rest of the day.  You guessed it, right at the seam where the plastic and metal come together.  Wasn't worth replacing until I had to drain the system for the heater core anyway.