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Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« on: October 02, 2012, 10:23:46 PM »
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tools-supplies/1090551-rogue-drill-press-reduction-kit-1-2-1-4-ratios-available.html

This is pretty cool. I don't do a lot of large holes with my drill press but having it be able to slow the RPM's down would be awesome!
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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 07:48:59 AM »
That is cool.  I've ruined a lot of drill bits due to the speed.
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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2012, 07:21:19 AM »
I just put a vfd on mine - one size fits all and you get infinite adjustability ;)
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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 08:13:32 AM »
a vfd is def cool - don't you need a 3 phase motor for those though?
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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2012, 08:23:31 AM »
a vfd is def cool - don't you need a 3 phase motor for those though?

Mine is a three phase, but there are VFD's for single phase motors as well.

Here is one:
http://www.anaconsystems.com/text/opti_e2.html

This is the one I run:
http://www.motortronics.com/pages/acdrives_ME2a.html
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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2012, 09:39:58 AM »
i was looking at a vfd for my lathe, didn't know there were single phase available although they are pricey ('bout double compared to 3 phase from that link you posted) but it saves you from getting a motor.

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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 10:19:15 AM »
i was looking at a vfd for my lathe, didn't know there were single phase available although they are pricey ('bout double compared to 3 phase from that link you posted) but it saves you from getting a motor.



There are probabally cheaper ones available - just happened to be the first one that popped up in a search.
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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2012, 10:32:21 AM »
It seems the 4:1 and 2:1 kits would slow it down and increase the torque.  Does the VFD decrease the torque along with the speed?  If it does, could this be a problem in some cases?

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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2012, 10:54:04 AM »
i think the torque is constant with a 3 phase vfd (dunno about the 2 phase). It varies the frequency and the voltage remains the same.
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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2012, 11:44:08 AM »
Constant instead of increasing.  So it doesn't decrease but would still be less than with a gearing (or pulleys) setup.  Don't know if it would ever cause a problem...not enough torque for some application.

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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2012, 01:10:44 PM »
I know I can stop mine with my hand if I feel like it, but torque isn't really something you should need in a bench drill.  Mine is a bit odd, as it is an old high speed 40's press out of a war factory with 2 speeds in the pulleys, a 2 speed gearbox and a 2 speed motor (the 2 speeds on the motor are disabled by the VFD).  I can get the thing down to around 100RPM


8 Speed Avey Drill Press, size number 1/2 Heavy made by Avey Drilling Machine Corp. of Cincinnati Ohio. The unit has a set of high and low speed selector push buttons and a high / low speed lever providing 8 speeds are (4500/1200, 600/1600, 9000/2400, 12000/3200 rpm). The machine is 73" tall by 21" wide by 36" deep.
 
Unit has a brass plate on back that reads "Defense Plant Corp. an Instructmentality of the United Sates Government."
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Re: Drill Press 4:1 and 2:1 kits
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2012, 04:34:50 PM »
From the 40s!  Pretty interesting machine.
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