Topic: More Articulation posable?

[Liljeepz]

Dose any one know If its posable to get more artulation out of a stock Jeep with ACOS set at 2.5 and 1.25 body lift? Im not shur its even posable. Theres got to be a way to do it.


(Sorry for the spelling, Im not on my comp and don't have a spell checker)

[Crunch]

Have you tried to unbolt your sway bar links?

If you haven't, keep in mind you 'may' need longer brake lines, so test it out carefully before you go play.  If they look like they are getting tight, STOP, and don't disconnect those sway bar links again until you get some longer front lines.  With a 2.5" lift, you won't need rear lines.

Other than that, your shock's length may be preventing you from articulating out very far.  Are you using the stock shocks, something that came with your lift, or something else?  The best way, is to pre-measure what you need before you go buy shocks :)  The ones that come with most kits aren't really long enough.

If you're having any trouble with 'stuffing' your fenders, check your bumpstops.

[Liljeepz]

I have front disco's.
My shocks I bought separate, I asked for shocks with a 2" lift. I'm not sure on the length, but I'm sure its close.

[Jeffy]

Better control arms with jonny joints or heims would help.  How much articulaion are we talking about anyway.  Articulation isn't everything.

[jagular7]

Take a look at http://www.4bangerjp.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1636&highlight=.
Back in Dec/Jan, I had a combination of lift to include: Rubicon springs, ACOS front, 2" rear spacer, Tera lower adjustable front arms, 2" bump stop riser up front, adjustable front track bar, rear track bar riser, Currie adjustable upper rear arms, YJ front brake lines, rear shock relocators, and 4" longer shocks. Pics: http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/jagular7/Articulating/

Since the 8.8 install, added 1" bump stops in rear, RE adjustable rear track bar, removed the shock extenders and track bar riser (brackets designed for 8.8 by mad4x4.com). Latest pics show the twsting of the rubber bushings in the rear lower control arms.

The shock is the most limiting of the axles during articulation.  Measure for the proper shock length, you want to let the bump stops work as bump stops. This keeps the tires in location during stuffing. Remove the shock and spring from one side. Use a floor jack and raise the axle to stuff the tire. Measure the bump stop riser needed and the actual shock length for compression. Take into consideration the compression of the actual bump stop. Then locate a shock to fit the compression measurement and the application. The droop is the next consideration. Brake line length is critical. Don't forget to measure when the caliper is pulling away from the frame. Once you get the proper shock, then next will be the friction between the bushing and the bolt. Due to the short arm length of the stock suspension configuration, longer front lower arms are a necessity. Rear adjustable arms are used to support the rotation of the pinion.

Hope this helps.

[Liljeepz]

That is a lot of good info, Thanks.
My plan is to make my jeep as flexible as possible, and as low as possible to let me learn before I get a larger lift and tires. Don't want to roll it before its payed for! :shock: I don't want to put to much money into it since I will be going bigger in the next few years. but I want it done right the first time.

[jagular7]

Check with your local Jeep and 4x4 clubs. There are probably others like you doing or have done the same thing. You could learn from them. Hands on is best knowledge, but realize its not brain surgery (that would be a mess to clean up if you were wrong....).

[Yellowcritter]

If you are running a shock for a 2" lift, you are basicly running a stock length shock.  When I ran the Skyjacker 2.5" lift, I ran a shock for a 3" to 4" lift. It worked well for me and I didn't have a problem with the springs popping out of their perches.

[Mozman68]

Check with your local Jeep and 4x4 clubs. There are probably others like you doing or have done the same thing. You could learn from them. Hands on is best knowledge, but realize its not brain surgery (that would be a mess to clean up if you were wrong....).

Gotta second this one big time.....joined my local club as soon as I got my Jeep 6 months ago....between these forums and the guys in my group I've saved about $1,000 in installation costs....I barely had to loosen/tighten a few screws during the install of my 3" lift, but I was able to see everything that is needed and I could install another one now fairly easily for the next guy that needs it done! :D